Thank you, I'll have fun with those.

I didn't go back and look at those exec orders (time would be better spent doing actual research for school) but the titles and descriptions given don't seem to suggest any kind of firearms confiscation under executive order. I'll be interested in what nogames comes up with from these..

The New Orleans/Katrina Gun Confiscation, though, is pretty well documented. (I'd share with the board my favorite 2A website but traffic there is already too heavy and if you are into it you'd know about it and be there already) This was covered and discussed quite extensively.

I usually don't speak in absolutes but I never heard any talk about military personell collecting or confiscating firearms from private citizens. ALL the cases where people had their guns taken away involved local LEO's. New Orleans (city and parish) has a long and storied history of being one of the most corrupt law enforcement districts in the country. I understand that it used to be rather commonplace for local LEO's to confiscate weapons from people during traffic stops for not being able to produce a reciept. Totally illegal. it happened during Katrina.. but by local LE, not by military personell.

p.s. I made a few calls this morning to a few ammo suppliers I know of and they're all out of 7.62 and 5.56/.223 ammo except for high dollar tracer, penetrator and match ammo and only in small quanitities.. Some do have super bulk, loose ammo for relatively cheap..

many suppliers are completely sold out of the common calibers and popular "large game" shotgun guages, like #3 and #4 buckshot.

Correct me if I'm wrong here.
It is still against the law to hoard/ store a years supply of food.
If you intend to do that, I would advise not advertising it over a media that is worldwide.
I would also advise against claiming to have even 1 gun or 1 bullet.
Again, in case of gun or food confiscation, do not advertise.
Any and all posts can be ordered handed over to DHS, FEMA, or any other law enforcement agency dealing with confiscation.

WHat????

Really??? That is incredible!!!!!!!!

You aren't allowed to store food??? Lmao!!!!!!!!


You poor poor bastards.....


And you allowed this law to be passed?


Geeeeezzzzuuuzzzz!!!!!!!!

Yep you guys are free.... the land of the free my arse.

During WWII and I don't think it's ever been changed.
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=940CEEDD1238EE32A25753C3A9639C946996D6CF
Special to The New York Times.

May 30, 1918, Thursday

If you don't think food hoarding can be made illegal, you've got to read this archived NY Times report from 1918;

NAVY MAN INDICTED FOR FOOD HOARDING; Medical Director Nash Had Tons of Food Supplies Stored in His Home. WIFE IS ACCUSED ALSO She Inherited a Legacy and Couple Invested Heavily to Forestall Any Food Shortage.

So....not allowed to stockpile food..... not allowed to say bad things about your government, or you get sent to Guatanimo....

Not allowed to do this, not allowed to do that....

When did the US become a Communist State?

Looks like it's headed at least, to socialism.
That's why States are getting their paperwork ready to enact the 10th Amendment.
20+ States are ready and more are expected to join.

I've been debating here for quite a while on whether or not to post on this topic thread. I've gotten quite the chuckle here, noticing several things others posted here similar to things I posted decades ago on other forum sites. Executive orders, Steven Quayle (having listened to him on c-band satellite/shortwave/online for over 15 years), survival tips, guns/ammo, bows/arrows, and teaching self-sufficiency classes- all in the name of "waking people up" and "educating" them. It took several years to realize this was a futile effort. Those who want the information and are serious, will seek it out on their own. Regardless... good topic still. The best advice I can provide is-

1. KYMS (Keep Your Mouth Shut) in regards to what you have or looking for and conveying it on a public forum site when it comes to preparation (especially guns/ammo). Take it private (if you know what I mean and why). Next, the same people that scoff and sneer at your attempts to help them help themselves will be the first begging for your help when/if something happens. The only thing I will have to offer those people is telling them the story of "The Little Red Hen" and wish them well.

2. It's human nature to brag about skills, talents, and abilities (I am guilty of this myself at times as well) when it comes to preparation (for a crisis real or perceived). I believe the key is to keep a low profile. This doesn't to mean crawl into a bunker and hide but adopting/adapting to new ways of doing things like planting a vegetable garden disguised as a "hobby". Your local county cooperative extension service offers Master Gardener classes and food preservation (canning and freezing).

3. Preparation of this nature has to be a perpetual lifestyle choice and not like the novelty of packing for a weekend camping trip. A good way to test your situation to see how well you are prepared- remove the main circuit breakers from your electrical panel, disconnect the phone for a weekend, and use only the items in your home/apt. Take inventory and assess your strengths/weaknesses and make adjustments accordingly.

4. While food and guns are at the top of the list of things to have, the number one priority I believe is water and a good portable water purification system. My personal preference is the "Big Berkey". One can go weeks without food; However, one can only go a few days without water.

5. "It's better to be 10 years too early than one second too late". So you have your food, guns, and everything stored up- great, that's a start. When/if those supplies run out, get stolen, or lost... then what? Hope? Pray? Maybe the government will bail you out? Good preparation takes time and can't be achieved in a week or month, it takes years. Learning new skills and trades- many now considered obsolete/novelties and things we take for granted nowdays takes time. Vegetable gardening (using heirloom seeds that can be saved), soap making, knitting/sewing/weaving, woodworking/carpentry (using hand tools), hunting/fishing/butchering, just to mention a few. Knowledge is one thing you will always carry with you regardless of your situation. It weighs less than a can of corn and will sustain you for much longer.

I had a feeling I would get carried away here (preaching about getting prepared)... old habits die hard. The main message here (if there is one) is not to panic but not to bury your head in the sand either. Be realistic. I enjoy my computer, electricity, and modern convienences/technology as much as anyone else here; However, I also realize that just one little glitch in this current system- a domino effect is created. One little truckers strike, one little computer virus, one little key disaster (manmade or natural) is all it takes to cause this country to go into a complete paradigm paralysis.

My parting thought here. Those who are prepared aren't nearly as nervous/anxious about the current state of affairs as those who aren't.

beeorganic +1

the fire arms confiscation in't in the executive orders here is some links to help you better understand, it's hard to explain in a post.

this is one of them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm5PC7z79-8

This video is revealing. I have met so many who think that when SHTF, the military is going to be on their side, for they are of the people too.

Watch this, and see for your self. Remember, Cheney and Bush, were of the people as well. Obama is. This is not preventing them from destroying your life, and it will not prevent them from killing you.

It shows armed forces entering the private homes with assault weapons loaded and drawn, ready to kill anyone, and confiscate their only way to protect themselves. This looks a lot like Germany, nothing like you would think of USA.

I just love the fearmongering propaganda....lol

Your right nogames.

i suppose if you were in a van full of your friends and somebody was driving it towards a cliff and one your friends noticed it, tried to tell the rest of you about it, you would call that person a fearmongering propagandist. you're one of the people i'm gonna laugh at when this happens and your sittin there with your jaw dropped LMAO

oh, i forgot, you might be able to whistle for your dragon to swoop down from the skies and whisk you away. That must be the reason you're not worried.

nogames- In speaking of Germany in relationship to US gun control legislation/confiscation, your observations are completely accurate. The 1968 US laws (mostly addressing handguns)are actually based upon those of Germany under von Hindenburg right before Hilter came to power (the Nazi party just expanded and perfected them... just like "Brady Bill" type of legislation in the US). An organization called "Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership" has an excellent book called "Gun Control" (Gateway to Tyranny)- verbatum translations that read almost indentical to US laws (http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/gateway.htm).

A little more about the US/Nazi legislation and the history behind it- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/860211/posts

Unfortunately, gun confiscation, regulation, registration are realities in the US and it's "death by a thousand cuts" tactics for even the most "law abiding" citizen. I believe the days of "fighting for rights" (more like fighting for having rights further restricted)have been over for some time. I believe one needs to do whatever they need to do to protect themselves and their families via any means possible. Doing something "illegal" is only illegal if one gets caught, yes? Lessons taught (the mistakes made) by individuals in think2deep's posted link, Randy Weaver (Ruby Ridge), and David Koresh (The Branch Davidians in Waco) needn't be repeated in trying to engage the military or law enforcement directly. People just need learn to adapt to the situation by using creative/alternative methods.

"When the gun prohibitionists quote a statistic about how many people are killed by firearms misuse, the discussion sometimes bogs down into whose crime stats to believe and how to count crimes vs. the defensive firearm uses".

"In the 20th Century:
Governments murdered four times as many civilians as were killed in all the international and domestic wars combined.
Governments murdered millions more people than were killed by common criminals.
How could governments kill so many people? The governments had the power - and the people, the victims, were unable to resist. The victims were unarmed".

http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/deathgc.htm#chart

If you go to this site, be sure to check out the "Death Chart".




Dragoness- http://www.bres.boothbay.k12.me.us/wq/nnash/WebQuest/little_red_hen.htm ... and I wish you well.

Brovo Beorganic!!! what most of the people here don't see is that the same group that created, financed and supported hitler are now running our country. They are communist....better known as the Bolshevists. ex President bush's grandfather prescott bush was one of them. he married into the banking elite in england, the same group of bankers that started the federal reserve.

Agree.

One day they will declare life illegal. Now, are you still going to follow and go to your death, lest you commit a crime?

"Illegal" only means that government doesn't want you to do it. It doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with "the right thing to do".

Kings always kill for behaving against their rules. It is not different now.