I was being facetious. Who walks around thinking they have the right to judge who should be sterilized? Only those who have hatred and misplaced anger, thats who.

It is not cool to say it about anyone, I don't care who they are or what you think of them, it just ain't cool.

Sure we can. And we do. We already put limits on how much you can make to qualify for assistance.

There are any number of ways that this could be addressed. Maybe we limit assistance calculations to 3 children (which would be my choice). Maybe we don't provide additional assistance for any children born after 1 year of being on assistance. Yes, I know there are always exceptions. But you try to account for those and make as good as system as you can. But when you see glaring abuses (She is not unique, only the great extreme) you try to short it up.

We can, and should, make distinctions. Most people want to provide assistance within reason. And most people don't want to pay a mother to have 14 children.

As far as your scenario is concerned, she would know the potential for that as she was having those kids. We all make choices. I'm willing to help her with... lets say... 3 of them.

I was kidding! :D

Sure am glad you are not the norm. Whew. If you were the majority in this country the poor in this country would be a mess and society would be the worse it can be.

I can tell you that all that you suggested has been considered already and found unsuitable because it would put already suffering people and children at risk.

I worked for social services and did the welfare program and I had very few clients who were "milking" the system. I saw very little fraud. I saw people whose circumstances were all different and all were in need of the help provided, actually they needed more than we did for them but we did all we could.

Only the hatefilled in this country believe the stereotype of "entitlement". Or the ignorant of the fact they are fed the hatred.

People need sometimes.

This woman is the exception not the rule and who knows what may come of all of this, she may not need any assistance at all. She has a website for donations and people who have money may feel the need to help her.

The fact you judge is the problem. If what she is doing is not right for you, that is fine but you cannot govern the whole country by how you personally feel.

Like I said you fight in the government for the restrictions to human rights and I will fight tooth and nail for the guarentee of the right of women to have children with no stipulations to how it is done. I will also fight for the poor that they do not restrict the already almost nothing welfare recipients get to live off of anyway.

assistance come from helping hands with undue hardship???

children intentionally induced to birth with no thought as to the means they will be supported with is not wisdom???

lack of wisdom is no certainly no crime, but what should anything be given before it see and admit the lack of it's own sight???

it is more a crime to help anything before it is willing to swallow it's own pride to gain it's own sight???

nothing learn from any past experience less it see what is better???

David says "children intentionally induced to birth with no thought as to the means they will be supported with is not wisdom???"

In actuality no child is born with the guarantee it will be cared for. Even children born to families with means can find themselves in the poor house over a weather event, over the family fortune being stolen, over a poor decision of the adult in the household, etc....

There are no guarentees in life except death.

one can say anything to prove self as correct, but the motive of why self try to be prove itself be the measure of it's worthiness for consideration???

there is but ONLY ONE guarantee???

self that deem never to rely on another to support itself unless it has no other earthy choice is certainly a gaurantee from the wise heart!!!

if this gaurantee is forfieted adulthood is not yet become recognized???

there is nothing less desirable created in a child except by the adulthood who provide it with all it wish???

the pride of free will is lost to entitlement in any society!!!

entitlement is a code name used to disguise slavery???

Correct or proving themselves correct is not the point for me, I am usually trying to show what I see in others so they can look closer.

I agree that self responsibility is the goal but who is to judge the path? People have to come into this at their own time. If we had better parenting, if religions did not breed those with less self responsibility, if children born in extreme poverty did not get influenced by their environment, etc.... It goes on and on. The human condition is very complicated, there is no cut and dried in this arena.

Entitlement is a trap, since Clinton instituted the welfare reform act we will have less and less entitlement to deal with, in this area at least as time goes. The program is more of a leg up now then it was in the past. In the past it would place someone in a rut of barely enough money to live and no money for clothes to work in, travel money to get to work, expense money needed to work, etc... It is not an entitlement anymore.

if this was your sister what would you say and do???

would you embrace her and serve and raise her children before there was FIRST SIGHT OF THE TRUE EFFECT OF HER OWN ACTIONS???

if so, then this be your choice, but it is no choice that can teach anything to anybody except to deepen illusions, that self has if it PROVIDE FOR ITSELF MORE TO CARE FOR WHEN IT CANNOT ALREADY PROVIDE FOR WHAT IT HAS CREATED???

your haste to bleed compassion is well understood, but this is not true compassion, but rather set anything else up to succumb to it's own delusions!!!

delusions can only become a crime if they are left as delusions???

if anything see not the results of it's actions and how they effect all others, then this is no crime but innocence, but innocence left as innocence become as ignorance embraced???

ignorance embraced as kindness is only self embracing good intentions, which lead to the perpetuation of ALL THAT IS LESS DESIRABLE GIVEN DUE TIME???

if there is no accountability then there is no learning, and if there is no ability to see how self effect, there is no learning yet possible???

so to make LEARNING possible, what be as better must be KNOWN, and THEN SPOKEN and THEN EMBRACED, or we are COLLECTIVLEY relegated to the anals of perpetual ignorance unchecked???

So. Hows the weather?

abosultely ****ing beautiful, for as the rain pours down the harder, the faces that drink in the rain become as shining lights!!!

Thats very poetic you know.

poetic is as poetic see, and poetic only see and describe what it be, so what see ye be the poetic plea???

Interesting! Yes I do love poetry.

for the love of the heart nothing give to itself, as things as these are from deeper and way down, that erase dark matter and remove any frown, that call unto the soul to come forth and be whole, making the heart reach forth and give up the cold, to suck in peace and love and unity that unfold, things of forever that it can eternally hold, and self no longer exist and wish to subsist, and fly free to the skies and infinite bliss is it's kiss.

peace

Has anyone considered this woman may be mentally ill?Also where are the anti-abortion folk now when 14 babies need help ?
Attacking the mother.I don't believe foster care is the answer because we all know what a f@#$ked up mess that system is.I suggest people stop *****ing about the mother.What's done is done.People need to move on and come up with solutions to help the Mom become stable and get the skills ,help and support she needs to raise these children.

Dragoness is right when she says no child is born to parents who can guarantee that they can support their child.

The potential loss of income and assets is a factor for everyone.

If people only had babies who could afford them no one could have babies.

I've never met or spoken with this woman. I can't say she is insane or crazy. I am not a shrink.
Hitler wanted people sterilized. Are you also suggesting people who don't fit your description of normal, be sterilized?

Should this also mean that because she 'wants to feel loved' and felt the 'need' to have children, that it be up to the rest of us who have kids or don't by choice or circumstance, to foot the bill?



Such hypocrisy.
Complaining about Tapayers forking out for one itty-bitty American female who chose to have a litter.

How many of you support and defend the 12 to 18,000,000 Illegals who burden us Taxpayers. Why do you gladly shuck out your dough for them? Don't say the Illegals don't abuse the system. The facts are all verifiable.

Were talking about infants here, not teenagers. These children WOULD be adopted in the blink of an eye and with this kind of publicity, prob by some top notch celebrity!! The Foster "care" system wouldn't hardly be involved. Its not my right to tell anyone that they can or cant have kids, but its also not there right or privilege to ask the Tax payers to pay 4 them either!!