That doesn't matter. There are thousands of gay individuals that live homosexual lives. Our society doesn't always lend people to live as they truly feel they should due to discrimination.

And someone people struggle with their gender and/or their sexuality all their lives. And not until late adulthood embrace it!

There are trangendered individuals that even after surgery stay in marriages.

There are pre-op and post-op transgendered people.

Those that are pre-op may never have surgery, take hormones or live their lives completely as the opposite sex.

Post-op transgendered people live at least a year as the opposite sex, start to take horomones, and evenutally if they choose have gender-reassignment surgery.

Cross-dressers/transvestites do so for pleasure or sexual reasons. Not because they feel that they are the opposite gender.

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Hey, I hope you find happiness, whatever the label.

Since we like making things up since there are no boundries to the definition of a self proclaimed opinion, then I proclaim myself to be a transgendered transgender.


There. I hope you're satisfied

I am glad that you think that psychology and research and academic definitions of gender is 'self proclaimed opinion'

Thanks transientmind - much appreciated

OK...how 'bout stop with the definitions... Each person is an individual...why must we feel the need to compartmentalize everything? Stop with the labeling people...Geez!

It isn't compartmentalizing or labeling, I am providing definitions to clear up common misconceptions and ignorance.

A person is NOT a definition...I have spoken to Denise privately...she has already said she was a lil scared...THIS is the welcome we give to her? Peace peeps...

Agreed. A person is not a definition. However, to have someone else tell another person they are not transgendered, when they are incorrect. How is that fair and just.

And I don't mean to be the source of such dissension. I'm just trying to sort everything out.

I appreciate all of the words support and kindness.

I think I need to step away for a while.

Peace to all.

*sigh* There will always be differences of opinion...who are we to educate the ones who really don't want to understand? Just sayin'...

Good Gawd,...stop the madness....Welcome to the site Denise. I hope that this place finds you well.

Thank you Mike for your Zen...truer words were never spoken...

If you want resources look for "Reconciling" faith communities. These are faith communities that have voted to support GLBTG members and there spiritual needs as functional human beings without discrimination.

The late Rev.'s Bruce and Virginia Hilton have written extensively on the subject of faith and family life. Their writting would be one of the first places I would start.

You have a personal mail and are welcome to communicate with me at your will. I tend to be more of a niteowl so you may have to leave a note when you would want to chat.

I didnt read them all but welcome to the sight Denise. Hope you find what you are looking for.

There are a few transgendered people on here.

Good luck and welcome to Mingle.

Good information, Tanyaann.

Thanks. Part of being an advocate is providing information.

Could you clarify a little bit? You are still physically a man, and have yet to start the chemical process of becoming a woman is that correct? But you would like to go out with a man? Yet you say you dont think you are attracted to men. I could be wrong, but if a man was to take you out, I would assume that he himself would be gay and not taking you out because you have transgendered thoughts of being a woman. And he would probably assume that you yourself are attracted to men. From what Im reading though, you say you are still attracted to woman. So you would like to become a woman and enjoy a gay relationship? Is that correct?

My suggestion would be to call the John Hopkins University and still what they can recommend in the way of support groups that could help you talk this through with others who are going through the same thing you are.

Good luck to you!

I might be wrong on this but if a man chooses to love a man who is transgender, then he is considered heterosexual because he is in love with her as a woman. Even if the process is not complete, if he is not sexually aroused by this person as a man, then he is heterosexual.

I’m reminded of that film "The Crying Game." The man in that movie was clearly heterosexual yet he was in love with the cross dresser as a woman. Thus the conflict.