Tough titty aye raider..


WASHINGTON – With job losses soaring nationwide, Senate Democrats reached agreement with a small group of Republicans Friday night on an economic stimulus measure at the heart of President Barack Obama's plan for combatting the worst recession in decades.

"The American people want us to work together. They don't want to see us dividing along partisan lines on the most serious crisis confronting our country," said Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, one of three Republican moderates who broke ranks and pledged their votes for the bill.

More here;
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/congress_stimulus

funny how the Congressional Budget Office says this bill will do more harm than good..

but go ahead..

is that the best gloating you can do?? I've come to expect more from you.

So the Honorable Miss Collins can expect not to survive the Primaries when she comes up for election.

She's a RINO anyways.

Uncertain of the outcome of the talks, Democrats called Sen. Edward M. Kennedy back to Washington in case his vote was needed. The Massachusetts senator, battling brain cancer, has been in Florida in recent days and has not been in the Capitol since suffering a seizure on Inauguration Day more than two weeks ago.


In addition to Collins, Republican Sens. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania and Olympia Snowe of Maine pledged to vote for the legislation.


There are a few good Reoublicans..

And a whole lot of better ones that aren't voting for this pile of garbage. It's going to pass either way but at least when everything fails, the democrats will be standing there with their pants down and nobody else to blame.

whatever. Just delaying the inevitable. It's like trying to take out a volcano by pissing into it.

First rule of medicine: Do No Harm

Obama and Congressional Dems not getting message. Vote buying and special interests (ACORN) + new lawn for National Mall more important...



CBO: Obama stimulus harmful over long haul
Stephen Dinan (Contact)
Wednesday, February 4, 2009

President Obama's economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.

CBO, the official scorekeepers for legislation, said the House and Senate bills will help in the short term but result in so much government debt that within a few years they would crowd out private investment, actually leading to a lower Gross Domestic Product over the next 10 years than if the government had done nothing.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/04/cbo-obama-stimulus-harmful-over-long-haul/

uncertain=win .....non-contest=guilty

Aren't these some of the same guys who saw to our fist ****ing in the first place?

This stimulus only indirectly address the mortgage meldown.

Addressing the mortgage meltdown should have been priority one........If Geitner announces on Monday more capital injection into the banks or more insurance by the government for bank losses the mortgage situation still will not change.

I think that republicans are so weak and stupid, they are funny. At the very least, I expected them to have some sort of discipline, and not vote for the bailout at all. That way, the dems are either winners or losers.

Now that they have mixed up, stupid reps are going to be the losers no matter what happens. If economy recovers, it is going to be due to dem passed the bailout, against the majority of reps. It economy goes into tailspin, it is going to be because some reps demanded to decrease the "help" amount.

Three moderate repubs voting for this massive increase in government spending...I would not call a bi-partisan agreement...This is the biggest movement towards Carl Marx that I have ever seen.

Ahhh,
is the Desoldamien upset..

Get a load of this crook.
http://mingle2.com/topic/show/203456

What a hypocrite.
I remember last Feb and March, when the bill was in congress, you were arguing against helping people whose mortgages were foreclosing.

The Republicans killed it and now look where we are. Now you post this???

Economic Genius I say.
Can I get your autograph?

Naahhh, I never get upset..I am just saying that 3 out of all the house and senate is not a bi-partisan effort...just call it like it is, the libs big pork spending..and yes, the repubs did the same thing...but I didn't support them on it either.

Not picturing many more elections in Susan collins' future. During her first term in office she pledged to "only serve two terms" as she believed that congressmen/women shouldn't be allowed to serve more than two. She ran for a third this last fall. But that's her.

Throwing money at the situation won't help us. This seems to be Obama's plan for everything. According to his website No Child Left Behind policy of Bush's failed because it was underfunded. So he suggests increasing it's funding by about 10 billion a year. Also according to his website we aren't spending enough on our foriegn policy. So, he wants an additional 50 billion a year spent on diplomacy.

The economy is failing, so from what i understand he wants to start a whole crap load of jobs that arent productive. Once again, throwing money at it. Not to mention all this pork injected into this stimulus. Not that it matters where we spend it, just that we take out the loanand spend it...

Obama showed a LITTLE promise at first by freezing wages in Washington, and promoting greater transparency. Unfortunately he is, and will be just like everyone else in the last 100 years, minus JFK of course.

I doubt anyone would disagree that we need to pay off our debts in this country. we have collected 50 trillion dollars of it as americans. 1/5th of that is our government's deficit. This is basically where %100 of all our income tax goes, is paying the interest on this deficit. In fact, about %80 of the income of american's goes towards debt. Kinda crazy huh?

Just about everything that has been done, in just about every country, during a recession or depression, has made it worse. FDR probably doubled the length of our great depression according to MOST economists. Japan, just screwed themselves over pretty hard during their last conflict, yet we are making virtually EVERY mistake they are making.

One administration in the history of the United States managed to balance our budget and completely pay off our deficit. We are STUPID not to take notes on Andrew Jackson's actions and how he managed to do this. His first step was completely abolishing the second National Bank so we didn't have to take out loans to pay for loans.

Why don't we abolish the third national bank,or the Federal Reserve, so we can do the same?

Why don't we change our foreign policy so we aren't spending billions upon billions every month just to circulate that money in third world countries?

Why don't we start eliminating programs that don't work you know, so we don't waste tax payers' money?


This is not about being bipartisan. Bipartisanship is a desparate, completely ignorant argument when it comes to dealing with issues. We need to work together yes. But our forefathers intended there to be disputes. One party is to keep the other party in check.

So as i said, it's not about being bipartisan in washington. It's about doing the RIGHT thing by the people.

Unfortunately we lost the option of that a few years ago. Esp last Mar when Congress refused to do something about all the homeowners losing their homes.

Now we are left with the ONLY option, The one Obama has presented, and passing it will be the RIGHT THING!

How many of those people that lost their homes were people living beyond their income levels,,or signed for loans without checking out the details of the contract?? How many of those people took out "Interest Only" loans or Variable Rate loans figuring that the interest rates would stay low and wouldn't be a problem??? Just becase there is a snake oil salesman or woman around on every corner doesn't mean that you have to buy their line of bull..

FDR tried to spend his way out of a depression and look what happened...it lasted longer because of what actions they took..building infrastructure... ever heard that line lately??

Why should I help an idiot that's too stupid/ignorant to help them self? If you got yourself into the mortgage and can't pay, you deserve to fail.

The bull**** legislation in the bank bailout is proof that the government has no place in socialistic interference. What happened? The legislation was laden with pork in order to get support and in the end, it did nothing to help the situation because the writers did nothing to limit the use of the money.

Do you really think this one will work out any better?

by the way, there is also the option of letting the clump continue and let the market heal itself correctly. this is like putting a band-aid on a gunshot wound. the uncertainty is what's driving the market around. if they know we're not going to get any assistance, it may drop but then the investors will buy at the bottom and the rise starts again.

Either you or I have a bad memory. You will have to enlighten me to these arguments that you say I supported. I don't believe you will find them in any of my posts - I can promise you one thing though, I won't belittle your opinion with the childish name calling and labels and suggestive smileys that you direct constantly on this site towards people that you disagree with.