Topic: Evolution is it a fact?
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Tue 06/09/09 10:05 PM

I believe we all evolve to some degree, but from monkeys or some animal, no, however would like to point out evoloution from monkeys to us has not been proven.
flowerforyou But you accept that humans are primates?flowerforyou

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Wed 06/10/09 08:25 AM

I believe we all evolve to some degree, but from monkeys or some animal, no, however would like to point out evoloution from monkeys to us has not been proven.


You're actually looking at it all wrong. The reason is probably due to the idea that you would like to believe that humans are special and somehow animals are not.

It's actually incorrect to say that we evolved from monkeys. We are simply a highly evolved species of primate. Instead of thinking of us having branched off from monkeys you could think that monkeys branched off from us and that would be basically the same thing in a way. In other words, we both evolved from the primate line. We're more like cousins of the monkeys. We're not their decendents.

Moreover, the primates that we evolved from ulimately evolved from rodents if we go back far enough. So in a sense you could say that we evolved from rats. laugh

Go back far enough and all life on Earth evolved from slime mold.

The ulternative is to believe that some God made Adam from dirt and then as an afterthought he made Eve from Adam's rib. Then Eve lured Adam into sin. The moral being that dirt is holier than ribs.

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Wed 06/10/09 09:22 AM
I have family members that don't believe in evolution. They are complete creationists. They can't back themselves up of course when I ask "well then how is it that the world/people/animals/things evolve?" laugh lol

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Wed 06/10/09 12:02 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Wed 06/10/09 12:09 PM

. . . but from monkeys or some animal, no, however would like to point out evoloution from monkeys to us has not been proven.

What is an animal? What characteristics define creatures of the animal Kingdom?

I believe we all evolve to some degree


So is there a degree where a given species stops evolving?

What would stop a species from evolving?

If there is no stopping these changes, then what characteristics would be protected from change?

What would protect these characteristics from change?

If no characteristics are protected from change, then couldn't any animal change enough to where they could no longer breed back with the previous line of animal?

If that happened, then wouldn't the two lines diverge as time and other changes piled up and start to look and act more and more differently?


What do you think we would see if we looked at the DNA of an ancient monkey and a modern human if they did not descend down the same lines?

What about if they did?

If anyone does enough educating and research to answer these questions then all will be made clear about evolution.

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Wed 06/10/09 01:02 PM


I believe we all evolve to some degree, but from monkeys or some animal, no, however would like to point out evoloution from monkeys to us has not been proven.
flowerforyou But you accept that humans are primates?flowerforyou


No.. I really dont like monkeys. Poo flingers. eww, but cute mirror.

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Wed 06/10/09 01:09 PM
Edited by earthytaurus76 on Wed 06/10/09 01:10 PM


I believe we all evolve to some degree, but from monkeys or some animal, no, however would like to point out evoloution from monkeys to us has not been proven.


You're actually looking at it all wrong. The reason is probably due to the idea that you would like to believe that humans are special and somehow animals are not.

It's actually incorrect to say that we evolved from monkeys. We are simply a highly evolved species of primate. Instead of thinking of us having branched off from monkeys you could think that monkeys branched off from us and that would be basically the same thing in a way. In other words, we both evolved from the primate line. We're more like cousins of the monkeys. We're not their decendents.

Moreover, the primates that we evolved from ulimately evolved from rodents if we go back far enough. So in a sense you could say that we evolved from rats. laugh

Go back far enough and all life on Earth evolved from slime mold.

The ulternative is to believe that some God made Adam from dirt and then as an afterthought he made Eve from Adam's rib. Then Eve lured Adam into sin. The moral being that dirt is holier than ribs.


I dont think monkeys are special.
I dont believe we are relative to primates in any way, allthough often used as a reference. (I notice you said "like" cousins I observe.)
Im comfortable with the rib situation.
If I were an afterthought, I am still grateful.

Best not to waste TOO TOO much time with me on these subjects. I am christian, and believe in the bible, (you know what I believe)

I appreciate the info.. I also believe that its possible that my higher power could have made it in one big bang. This could go on and on. You dont want to go on and on Im sure.

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Wed 06/10/09 01:21 PM


. . . but from monkeys or some animal, no, however would like to point out evoloution from monkeys to us has not been proven.

What is an animal? What characteristics define creatures of the animal Kingdom?

I believe we all evolve to some degree


So is there a degree where a given species stops evolving?

What would stop a species from evolving?

If there is no stopping these changes, then what characteristics would be protected from change?

What would protect these characteristics from change?

If no characteristics are protected from change, then couldn't any animal change enough to where they could no longer breed back with the previous line of animal?

If that happened, then wouldn't the two lines diverge as time and other changes piled up and start to look and act more and more differently?


What do you think we would see if we looked at the DNA of an ancient monkey and a modern human if they did not descend down the same lines?

What about if they did?

If anyone does enough educating and research to answer these questions then all will be made clear about evolution.


Stops evolving? Well besides death, seems like it, but maybe not. could be a choice.
ex. someone who decides in one way not to further evolve in an area, may not continue school, (which is not to say in all area they dont evolve.) Some people choose not to evolve.

I believe energy transfers. Thats a whole different discussion.

I dont even grasp the concept of the next question hon.

No idea about protection..

I agree it could be clearer about evoloution. It would be interesting, and a help to see more info that is factual.

Id love to answer your questions, and they are very intelligent questions I am sure you know, but I really dont have all the answers, and I am not a master of this, nor am I an expert. I could say certain things about what I believe, but I really dont feel like arguing the bibleee.. orrrr spiritual beliefs.

Im sure were all sick of that crap, and personally, I really dont relate to the preachy garbage.

But I respect you all the same.


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Wed 06/10/09 02:35 PM
Edited by smiless on Wed 06/10/09 03:14 PM
Many if not all believe humans are the smartest species on the planet. Are we really the smartest?

(----------------- bonobo photo

I actually think the bonobos are smarter then humans.

Why did I come to that conclusion?

Well first they create peaceful communities with co-dominant males and females in charge. Unlike other chimps, the community of bonobos operates not with a violence driven ethic but an ethic that can be described as "make love, not war." When the chimps in this society become agitated, they don't engage in bloody fights; they diffuse their divisive energy by having sex.

So maybe we can learn a thing or two from these bonobos!

I hate to see a fellow friend dead on the street just because he had a difference of opinion. Wouldn't you?

Well it won't happen in a bonobo's environment. drinker

Second they are not so possessed with materialism! Humans will kill, cheat, deceipt, or lie for materialism! Could you live without your computer, cellphone, or what have you? Very few have tried to live a naturlist lifestyle for only very few can!

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 06/10/09 02:39 PM



I believe we all evolve to some degree, but from monkeys or some animal, no, however would like to point out evoloution from monkeys to us has not been proven.
flowerforyou But you accept that humans are primates?flowerforyou


No.. I really dont like monkeys. Poo flingers. eww, but cute mirror.
:smile: Are cats part of the feline family?:smile: Are dogs part of the canine family?:smile: Do you believe in the clasification of organism?:smile: What classification do humans fall under if not primates?flowerforyou

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Wed 06/10/09 02:49 PM


I believe we all evolve to some degree, but from monkeys or some animal, no, however would like to point out evoloution from monkeys to us has not been proven.


You're actually looking at it all wrong. The reason is probably due to the idea that you would like to believe that humans are special and somehow animals are not.

It's actually incorrect to say that we evolved from monkeys. We are simply a highly evolved species of primate. Instead of thinking of us having branched off from monkeys you could think that monkeys branched off from us and that would be basically the same thing in a way. In other words, we both evolved from the primate line. We're more like cousins of the monkeys. We're not their decendents.

Moreover, the primates that we evolved from ulimately evolved from rodents if we go back far enough. So in a sense you could say that we evolved from rats. laugh

Go back far enough and all life on Earth evolved from slime mold.

The ulternative is to believe that some God made Adam from dirt and then as an afterthought he made Eve from Adam's rib. Then Eve lured Adam into sin. The moral being that dirt is holier than ribs.



I loved reading that Abra. It was a very accurate simple form of the information.

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Wed 06/10/09 02:53 PM




I believe we all evolve to some degree, but from monkeys or some animal, no, however would like to point out evoloution from monkeys to us has not been proven.
flowerforyou But you accept that humans are primates?flowerforyou


No.. I really dont like monkeys. Poo flingers. eww, but cute mirror.
:smile: Are cats part of the feline family?:smile: Are dogs part of the canine family?:smile: Do you believe in the clasification of organism?:smile: What classification do humans fall under if not primates?flowerforyou


Right and if you follow this backwards all species lead to one. Of course, it has to be a single cell organism.

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Wed 06/10/09 03:00 PM
correction, my bad not relative to primates not monkeys.

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 06/10/09 03:08 PM

correction, my bad not relative to primates not monkeys.
flowerforyou So, you agree that humans are primates?flowerforyou

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Wed 06/10/09 03:12 PM


correction, my bad not relative to primates not monkeys.
flowerforyou So, you agree that humans are primates?flowerforyou


yessssssssssssssss oh GOD YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! sad laugh

earthytaurus76's photo
Wed 06/10/09 03:13 PM
Just let me hang out and fantasize about smart men. SHHHHHHHHH!!!

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 06/10/09 03:49 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 06/10/09 03:49 PM



correction, my bad not relative to primates not monkeys.
flowerforyou So, you agree that humans are primates?flowerforyou


yessssssssssssssss oh GOD YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! sad laugh
flowerforyou That implies a connection, does it not?flowerforyou

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Wed 06/10/09 03:54 PM




correction, my bad not relative to primates not monkeys.
flowerforyou So, you agree that humans are primates?flowerforyou


yessssssssssssssss oh GOD YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! sad laugh
flowerforyou That implies a connection, does it not?flowerforyou


I dont believe it implies evoloution, sweet devils advocate.flowerforyou

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Wed 06/10/09 03:58 PM





correction, my bad not relative to primates not monkeys.
flowerforyou So, you agree that humans are primates?flowerforyou


yessssssssssssssss oh GOD YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! sad laugh
flowerforyou That implies a connection, does it not?flowerforyou


I dont believe it implies evoloution, sweet devils advocate.flowerforyou
flowerforyou But you previously admited that humans are part of the primate family.flowerforyou Families are made up of relatives,are they not?flowerforyou


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