"Mythology and the bible should not be mixed with each other."

I am not mixing mythology with the Bible. I evaluate all information equally. The Bible is no different from any other information.

Of course you can disagree, I was quite sure you would. I respect your choice to believe what you want.

However in truth, you have no idea if the people in the Bible were "real" people or not. They could just have easily been fictional. Some could have been real people and then others fictional.

The Bible is a collection of writings put together to form a new religion. It was put together by men.

Before the Greek Gods were dismissed as "mythology" they were worshiped as real just as you worship your Bible and your god as real.

But ultimately the individual decides what he will regard as "real" or not.

And what does "Israel" represent?

I believe it represents a genetic bloodline.

Well now that answers all my questions.

we are having trouble trying to categorize the following unusual fossil however....

i'm sure it is because you have not had a chance to
examine the tables and charts...

http://www.besse.at/sms/tables.html

You are correct, however the question is, what does this have to do with an Alien society.??? or
a work or element of fiction as Draconian.??

Fondly,
Sally

Awesome video about bonobo chimps that walk upright and use tools.

http://deliberateculture.blogspot.com/2008/10/bonobo-chimps-tools-fire-and-walking.html

I respect your beliefs too.

I agree that the ancient Greek gods and goddesses are mythical. I did not say they were real. I said that at one time people did believe them to be real.

In regard to Biblical prophecy, I believe that it is very likely that it was fictionally fulfilled by the writers of the New testament using older scripture, which had been written previously.

In other words, I believe the New Testament in its entirety is fiction with a few real people and places thrown in to give it validity. That shoots the fulfilled prophecy in the foot.

Anyway that's my personal conclusion.

look up
dr.dino.com
Kent Hovind does more than an excellent job of showing evolutionists real testable science and their beleif that we came from a rock is just a religion.

you can also go to (oldmonkeyman.com) and recieve free dvds of his seminars.

I RECOMMEND every person show these dvds to their kids so they want be tricked into a false religion that has absolutly no provable science,just a bunch of wishing and hopeing with many erros in it's research.

Shame on you. Evolution is not a religion. If you think it is then you don't know what a religion is. It is a belief in a deity.

Why can't people understand that evolution is a a scientific inquiry and a theory. It is taught as a theory...not as gospel or as a religion or as fact. There are many facts in evidence for several different theories of evolution but there is still a lot that is not known.

The Christian Religion is a belief in a deity who created this world is seven days and made a man out of mud and breathed life into him and brought him to life. If you want to believe that, no body is stopping you.

There are also many different beliefs, legends and religions about how some God created us. The creation stories that come out of scripture are not facts. How can they possibly be? If they were facts they would be science and they would be taught as facts.

you said it, it's a theory,that is taught to every school kid as a fact, read your kids science book it says plain and clearly. it's an dangerous theory that has no evidence to support it at all.it is very much a religion.

you can tell your childs school that you don't want them to learn evolution and if they refuse to let your child out of class and fail them you can then sue the shorts off your school system for religous descrimanation.

if you took all the lies out of text books that cann't be scientficlly proven then evolution would only be mentioned as a theory if at all,but none the lesspeople can beleive whatever they wish i just don't want my tax dollars paying for something that is totally made up!!!!!!!

Evolution is REAL...

http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/01/the-evolution-of-apple-design-between-1977-2008/

I don't believe any of that, but I believe you believe it.

Why do you think it is a "dangerous theory?"

What is dangerous about a theory?

question:do you think the face of george washington could appear on a rock from wind,water,thermal expansion or just plain luck?
i'm almost sure you'd say no
but
you think it's possible for all the millions of complex systems and parts in man to somehow come together by chance?

from a rock to man?

A rock is made up of atoms. Do you know how much information is contained in a single atom?

All the information in the entire universe.

Given infinity, yes. A rock to a man.

But consciousness is part of evolution. It is not an accident.
It is a coordinated design done by the sharing of information and energy exchanges.

God is existence itself, and It is intelligent.

I did read many of the posts here but not all of them. This is an age old controversy between science and religion.

Religion is of course obviously wrong.

The question I would pose to religious people is this:

If you believe your God is Almighty and the Creator... then could not such a Creator create things that evolve?

Can you honestly dispute your Gods plan or design by saying no?

Many people say "it is Gods will" or "it is in Gods hands."... yet they limit what they think their God can do when it comes to the topic of evolution.

Obviously, practically and verifiably, evolution happens and is happening all around us.
If your God or Creator rules all of the universes and more, it must be the Creators hand at work.

It is easy to reconcile Religion and Science in this field if you consider what I am saying.

RW Mountain

The Earth is flat. Oh wait... yeah, thousands of years ago people said a lot of crap. They said this and that to explain to themselves and their peers and children why things were the way they are. Mythology. Theology based on myth. Myth - a traditional story accepted as history to explain the world view of people. Therefore, religion, being unproven and based on blind faith, and being a traditional story being accepted as factual history, is mythology. Doesn't sound "sane" or "faithful" though to admit that religion is mythology.

The Bible is basically a collective memoir. It's taken from the authors perspective. People are flawed, therefore the authors were flawed. Some of it is actually historically accurate. Just like a lot of other mythology. Every single ancient culture has an ancient flood story. Some of the Bible is highly questionable, doubt able, and unprovable. People instantly turning into pillars of salt? I believe many phrases to be taken out of context or to be colorful creativity on the authors part. Turning a "rod into a snake," and, "parting the sea," and "The entire Earth flooded." Either those were parlor tricks by crafty magicians, the author was so uneducated to believe such nonsense, or the events themselves were blown out of proportion to make the story more fantastic.

When you are in the dark ages and know absolutely nothing about the world in its entirety, it's easy to assume the ENTIRE world flooded. There has been much evidence that certain parts of the middle east were indeed severely flooded around the time that scripture was written. There is also proof that the tides have not always been at the same levels, as most of the water would have been locked up in glaciers during the ice age. Once the glaciers melted off and the ice age was coming to an end, many places on Earth did become flooded, just like many places that were once oceanic, are now deserts.

It's hard to look past something that's been ingrained into your mind, especially when you're told that if you question it, you are being disrespectful to that idealism.

Another aspect of our reality, faith or not, is that the universe, as infinite as it is, would be a waste if we were the ONLY floating rock with intelligent life on it. Whose to say (religious or not) that "God" wouldn't create more worlds with more creatures? Why wouldn't He/She? Yes, these creatures would be "aliens" as we describe them.

Maybe Noah didn't actually build a boat. Maybe he built a spacecraft. Just throwing that out there.

I'm Agnostic. I don't know the answer, I just like these discussions. I DO know however, what science, led by highly intelligent people with knowledge passed down generation to generation and experiences to prove and disprove ideas, has dictated possible and not possible. Outside of an emotional bond to a religion, one can make a more logical, reasonable judgment on what can and cannot be real. Science still has a long way to go before we can explain so many more things that will eventually prove or disprove "God". Some believe we can evolve to a "God-like" level. The 46 and 2 theory is interesting, and not necessarily outside of scientific plausibility. I believe that if we knew how to use 100% of our brains, we would probably be capable of some miraculously unbelievable things. Perhaps, should we not kill each other first, we will eventually evolve to that point.

Perhaps science is the proverbial "Tower of Babel". Although that leads me to another discussion of God altogether. Everyone united to become more and more intelligent and God separated them and confused them and cut off their communication from one another. That doesn't seem like a plan for the better of mankind when you put it that way, huh? There is peace in unity. What, I must ask, was God afraid of? Now we have cultures hating each other because of prejudice and racism and intolerance of faith and heritage, all just one big perpetual misunderstanding.

Jesus was a good guy. I think he and Buddha would have gotten along very well. Maybe they DID.

Adaptation is a part of evolution, and should be an easy enough thing to see that no one should have to question it, but alas, some people don't want to believe what's right in front of their face if it's not their ideal reality. It is this ignorance that holds us back as a species.

Mankind became "aware" about 40-60K years ago. This is about the same time that a few of our other primate relatives became extinct. We were smarter, faster, and more creative, and just like we still do today, we consumed more resources, and killed those who threatened our resources so that we could have them all to ourselves.

As far as "Aliens" go. I personally think that everything on this Earth is alien. I don't believe that any life form was native to this planet in the beginning. I think it was delivered here in frozen meteorites. Started out as basic and simple, and adapted, and adapted again, and adapted some more until eventually, here we are. Octopuses, alligators, protozoa, fungus, and dogs. Just my silly theory.