Topic: Do You believe in Fae or Dragons?
bohemianbugeater's photo
Sun 01/25/09 04:03 PM
im not christian and while ive read a lil of many diff bibles a lot of what you are referencing is new to me and very interesting in this subject. that is all i meant. pish tosh to ppl who arent interested in the pursuit of personal truths thru broadening ones knowledge.

Krimsa's photo
Sun 01/25/09 04:05 PM
I’m looking right now. I had a good excerpt on the dragon and leviathan as being attributed to goddess Worship but now I can’t find it.

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Sun 01/25/09 04:06 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Sun 01/25/09 04:12 PM
SERPENTS

The serpent of Genesis was a deity in its own right, revered in the Levant for at least 7000 years before Genesis was written. Trees and gardens were involved in these early religions also, with no associations concerning guilt, sin, disobedience, or unpleasantness.

The serpent’s divine association has been insistently (and hopefully) interpreted as phallic, but the serpent was revered as female in the Near and Middle East (based on Sumerian and Babylonian texts, artifacts from Crete). (Did pre-dynastic Egyptians flee to Crete in 3000 bce with their belief in the cobra goddess?)

In ancient myths, the female deity was often symbolized as a serpent or dragon. The picture of the cobra as symbol of mystic insight and wisdom is used as a hieroglyphic sign signifying goddess, and it precedes the name of any goddess in Egyptian writing.

The Hebrews retain a shady memory of the mythic battle between Yahweh and the primordial serpent, Leviathan, although this has mostly been removed from scriptures; but see Job 26:13, Psalms 104, 74. Leviathan was known in northern Canaanite texts as the foe of the storm god Baal at least as early as the 14th century bce (var. Lotan, Lawtan, and Lat = goddess in Canaanite).

This mythic battle of male antropomorphic god and serpentine goddess emerges indirectly again in the Greek myth of Heracles/Hercules killing the serpent-dragon Ladon, said to be guarding a sacred fruit tree of a goddess.

Other Greek indications of cultural dominance include Athena born from the head of Zeus so that the male takes the role of creator (and Zeus is one of the few Greek gods never appearing with a snake), and Aphrodite being born from the genitals of Kronos. The Amazons are worrisome, perhaps reflecting the memory of a goddess-worshipping people who fought the initial seizure?


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Sun 01/25/09 04:11 PM
It's funny how one thing leads to another in mythologies.

After reading the verse from Enoch posted by filmfreek I went off to do a little bit of research on Enoch. I was quickly lead through dungeons and dragons and references to reincarnation in various ways. Somehow dragons are linked to the idea of reincarnation.

Then I was side-tracked to a link that speaks the the many references in the Bible of reincarntion.

I came across the following"

Matt 24:34 I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. NIV

I've very familiar with this verse and in fact I see it as proof that the predictions that were attributed to Jesus did not come to pass, because the gospels (not just Matthew) have all decreed that Jesus said that all of his prophesies would come to pass within the current generation.

This is why it makes no sense at all for people to be expecting Jesus to come 'back' 2000 years later. He wouldn't be coming 'back' at all! He would be coming for the FIRST TIME to any modern generations. He PROMISED to come BACK to the CURRENT generation and failed to do so. Thus his prophecy did not come to pass. It's a dead story now.

In any case the author of the web site I just visited says the following:


The only way this verse can be true is if the disciples and others alive at that time of Jesus are reincarnated just before his return. Otherwise he is a liar.


Absolutely, but I even in that case I would still say that he would be a liar because he still wouldn't have come BACK for them in THEIR GENERATION.

So even this idea of reincarnation to justify the prophecy is just grasping at straws.

Then he also says:


I also would like to point out that the Catholic Church outlawed and put to death those that preached reincarnation.


Well, there's no surprise there. Christians have historically jumped at any chance to murder 'heathens'.

Moreover, all Protestants would then be 'heathens' and according to the Bible they will all face the wrath of God no matter how nice they think they are. They have rejected his word, and they have rejected his Church which is the BODY OF CHRIST.

Protestants are all heathens who have blasphemed the name of the Holy Spirit.

laugh

Hey, I didn't write the mythology, I just report what it says. :wink:

From Dragons to damnation.

And the faeries all flew away. bigsmile


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Sun 01/25/09 04:13 PM

who is to say these dragons were not descendant of dinosaurs tho...for instance think off nessie sitings....doesnt it make sense that those creatures are descended from some of the very same we find in archaeological digs? i mean we find proof of such descendants in the oceans and rivers everyday as technology makes further advances.


or it could be a mutated life form but while mutations are extremely rare they do happen and some of these cases definitely fit the bill and have had enough time to mutate genetic structure enough to insure continued survival.


actually nessie has been proven a hoax, that famous pic, the guy admited to fakeing it.

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Sun 01/25/09 04:16 PM

im not christian and while ive read a lil of many diff bibles a lot of what you are referencing is new to me and very interesting in this subject. that is all i meant. pish tosh to ppl who arent interested in the pursuit of personal truths thru broadening ones knowledge.


I've been hanging out in here for the last few days myself. I'm also non-christian and curious about peoples beliefs.

Stick around sweets. It can get intense in here, but don't let anyone scare you off.

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Sun 01/25/09 04:20 PM


who is to say these dragons were not descendant of dinosaurs tho...for instance think off nessie sitings....doesnt it make sense that those creatures are descended from some of the very same we find in archaeological digs? i mean we find proof of such descendants in the oceans and rivers everyday as technology makes further advances.


or it could be a mutated life form but while mutations are extremely rare they do happen and some of these cases definitely fit the bill and have had enough time to mutate genetic structure enough to insure continued survival.


actually nessie has been proven a hoax, that famous pic, the guy admited to fakeing it.


Yeah and today with our modern sonar equipment, even a fish finder we could locate anything that large in a dam lake. Come one.

bohemianbugeater's photo
Sun 01/25/09 04:46 PM
Edited by bohemianbugeater on Sun 01/25/09 04:47 PM


who is to say these dragons were not descendant of dinosaurs tho...for instance think off nessie sitings....doesnt it make sense that those creatures are descended from some of the very same we find in archaeological digs? i mean we find proof of such descendants in the oceans and rivers everyday as technology makes further advances.


or it could be a mutated life form but while mutations are extremely rare they do happen and some of these cases definitely fit the bill and have had enough time to mutate genetic structure enough to insure continued survival.


actually nessie has been proven a hoax, that famous pic, the guy admited to fakeing it.
haha ive admitted to faking a lot of things i didnt. further more just because he faked his picture doesnt mean that the possibility isnt true. and i will say that there are plenty of underwater caverns that lead to possibilities. regardless of "monsters" in loch ness or not....its the meaning behind the reference not the reference itself. im a believer. always have been always will be.

i think sometimes the word lake leaves people to believe a small body of water. however many are quite deep that to fully search requires more money and special equipment than most people are willing to invest in especially without the promise of the sound results theyre looking for.


this reminds me of my interest in paranormal activity. which forum do you think ill find that in?


bohemianbugeater's photo
Sun 01/25/09 04:47 PM


im not christian and while ive read a lil of many diff bibles a lot of what you are referencing is new to me and very interesting in this subject. that is all i meant. pish tosh to ppl who arent interested in the pursuit of personal truths thru broadening ones knowledge.


I've been hanging out in here for the last few days myself. I'm also non-christian and curious about peoples beliefs.

Stick around sweets. It can get intense in here, but don't let anyone scare you off.
lol i wont. thanks hun. MUAH!smooched

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 01/25/09 05:12 PM

bohemianbugeater's photo
Sun 01/25/09 05:29 PM
where are you getting all these pictures of me and my sisters? lol jk

Drago01's photo
Sun 01/25/09 05:37 PM
Edited by Drago01 on Sun 01/25/09 05:38 PM



I love the ears. If I met a girl with ears like thats well Id marry her.
Its all just so "earotic"pitchfork

Krimsa's photo
Sun 01/25/09 05:53 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Sun 01/25/09 05:54 PM
I always thought Klingon women were pretty hot.

Oh I had to remove that photo. It was too wide.

Abracadabra's photo
Sun 01/25/09 06:18 PM
Thanks for posting the picture Mirror.

I might make a Goddess out of Her.

I could use a little pin-up earotica around here.

I'm re-decorating my abode. :wink:

Pin-up Goddesses are cool. glasses

Especially lately I've been reading a lot about God's true feelings on sex and sensual desires.

Aphrodites was totally into sex and expected everyone to participate in the wonderful art of love making.

Now that I've flushed the Mediterranean hatred down the toilet I can finally see sex for the divine loving truth that it is. flowerforyou

Krimsa's photo
Sun 01/25/09 06:21 PM
Yes sex was always a part of spirituality. It was just the Christians that made it all forbidden and evil and only for procreation. Then they tried to suppress it and that didn’t go over so well.

Abracadabra's photo
Sun 01/25/09 06:40 PM

Yes sex was always a part of spirituality. It was just the Christians that made it all forbidden and evil and only for procreation. Then they tried to suppress it and that didn’t go over so well.


Christians love to spread hate. It's like an obscession with them.

I like Aphrodites. Clearly She was divine. bigsmile

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 01/25/09 07:49 PM

where are you getting all these pictures of me and my sisters? lol jk
laugh

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Sun 01/25/09 07:50 PM
I am 2,500 years old draconian and can shapeshift into a black dragon if wanted to, yet stay in human form to be more acceptable in society.


(------------------drinker

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Sun 01/25/09 07:51 PM

Krimsa's photo
Sun 01/25/09 07:52 PM


Yes sex was always a part of spirituality. It was just the Christians that made it all forbidden and evil and only for procreation. Then they tried to suppress it and that didn’t go over so well.


Christians love to spread hate. It's like an obscession with them.

I like Aphrodites. Clearly She was divine. bigsmile


yepper. bigsmile