one of the rules of a given society is to assume that all it’s citizens are insane and in need of protection from themselves which explains why suicide is against the law ..

has religion become an acceptable way to mask what may be other underlining mental issues that could go undiagnosed?

it was once acceptable to claim to have a prophecy or that something was inspired by God or that someone is speaking in tongues or that someone is hearing voices or the voice of God but now those types of examples are now deem to be a result from other causes

so how can religion be used to identify those which may have other underlining problems or has went undiagnosed or misdiagnosed

it’s a simple equation which can be used to detect the thin line between insanity delusion and reality which is …the more religious the person the more delusional the behavior

so is this how religion is now being use as a sort of acceptable delusion and a way to blend those that may have other underlining issues to blend and function within a given society

The delusional are those who think there is no God and once you die that's it.

"Beautyfrompain" ...er...did God tell you this?

An individual's reality is about perception. If they believe it to be real, then for them.. it is real.

The possitive aspect of this dynamic, is that perceptions can change based upon information and life experience - hence, one's reality can change.

My two cents. :-)

I think this is entirely dependent upon the principles of the religion.

For example, Panthesist believe that all is God, and that we should love God.

Well, if they take that belief to heart then they will love all, including the Earth, all animals, and humans.

If this is a delusion, why would anyone deem it to be unacceptable?

What's wrong with loving everything?

Wiccans, hold to the value, "Do as ye will, but harm none".

Again, if it's a delusion, why would it be unacceptable if the premise is to harm none?

Some may argue that by doing as ye will it could lead to activities that could harm others unintentionally. In other words, if it your will to get drunk, you might harm someone, or yourself whilst in a drunken state.

So there could be some issues here concerning carelessness, or untentional harm arising from this delusion.

None the less, overall, the delusion appears to at least be on the right track.

However, religions that believe in a judgement God are not good delusions at all.

These delusions have people judging their brothers (in spite of the fact that their God supposedly told them not to judge others), and they also belittle anyone who does not believe like them and accuse them of having rejected their very own creator.

These delusional religion have historically been the cause and support for many attrocities.

In fact, they continue to be the source of emotional terrorism today.

Believers in these jealous judgmental religions terrorize loving individuals simply because they love within their own gender.

They terrorize scientists and denounce their intellectual acheivement and threaten to have their terriorism myth taught to our children as though it is science.

They terrorize doctors who are trying to advance medicine via stem cell research.

They terrorize women who may have pregancy issues that they are attempting to deal with. These women are often already in a traumatic situation as it is.

They terrorize everyone and anyone who doesn't believe in their terrorism.

They threaten to convert the whole world to become terrorists like them.

So in those cases, I would say that those religions are not acceptable delusions.

They should be outlawed as organizations that support and instigate hate crimes.

Where do we draw the line between religion and hate crimes?

Do we have to wait until they are actually burning gays and heathens at the stake again?

Surely we could at least denounce them as being unwise, and inhumane.

but this can apply to anyone that is capable of learning but how can this be applied to detect delusion

the religious make claims that an entity exist that is unseen and incomprehensible to the human senses which means it would be impossible for anyone to know that it ever existed which means it's no way to apply perception to this ..but yet they believe it exist ...is this delusion

Is religion an acceptable delusion to use to manipulate/control the masses?

No.

Is an effective form of control/manipulation?

2000 years of stats say it has been.



"Accepting the insanity of society/humankind.... is actually the first step to freeing oneself from being IN the insanity." - Eckhard Tolle.

"Jess"...isn't religion based on that fact or faith that no proof is proof ...so can you explain why this shouldn't be regarded as an acceptable delusion

There is a mindset that if enough people believe it so... it is fact.

If what becomes a general consensus of 'fact' is flawed...it is really only an amassed collective of lies.

Lies, in the sense that what has been accepted as a truth, is based only on a perception...and a flawed one at best.

Anything that separates, and excludes is an ego based delusion...irrespective of the volume, or numbers that accept it.

but to those that believe, the belief isn't a lie, but the fact that they choose to believe in something that is incomprehensible to the human sense which means there is no proof to support the belief is what points to delusion ..

the fact that a massive amount of people are in the mind frame to believe it is what makes it an acceptable delusion an only indicates that there may be a massive amount of people that are delusional

This would hold true for some religions. In India they worship rats and monkeys at temples. They float dead bodies down the Ganges.

I've been pointing out the utter insanity of our ruling elite who are into the occult.

But the bible IS NOT RELIGION. It is fact. It is the neverending law of the universe, and will never go away.

I agree that the bible is not religion...

The bible chronicles the path of mankind.

The Religious have made specific, agenda-driven interpretations of the words of the bible and then have imposed their interpretations on as many people as possible, all the while insisting these interpretations are absolute fact.

To me... following blindly seems far more insane than stepping back and seeking to understand for self.

 de-lu-sion  /dɪˈluʒən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [di-loo-zhuhn]


a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact:


A false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence, especially as a symptom of mental illness:


an erroneous belief that is held in the face of evidence to the contrary

God doesn't want us to Come to Him with a Bunch of Religion .

God wants a Relationship with Us, His Creation.

And God Already Made a Way For Us to Have that Relationship Back With God again.

God Has Already Provided a Way....for us to Come Back Home.


Thru Accepting and Believing On His Son Jesus.

Accepting the Lord Jesus, as Our Saviour .... Brings Us Back into RELATIONSHIP with Abba Father ..Once More.

Just Like it was In the Beginning

The only problem I see with those who blaspheme religion the existance of God, is that THEY are the ones who are rejecting what humanity has known since the beginning of time. That God exists & He has revealed Himself thruout time.

All this new age witchcraft is nothing more than man's human attempts to put God of the Bible in a box to calm their own frustrations. They will always have the choice to enter in anytime they choose, but how about all the mind they pollute along that way? Shake your fist at God but don't kill another's option is what I say.

FACT: What about those who have the testimony of faith in them including the end result...answers to prayer? That can't be denied.

I'm in agreement with one poster who said...ignore what you reject. I have never seen the absolute hatred toward Christianity like on these boards. I guess all the closet devil worshippers are working OT to kill off man's real hope. Talk about sad....

In my experience, I have seen two things that would strike me as religion/mental illness. Firstly, we should define mental illness more from its effect, does it cause you pain and/or inability to function fully.
1. I have treated some wackos, mainly Xians, who believe that they were part of some devil worship cult, always calling the police to confess killing a cat or something at a Black Mass and then not understanding why no one cares and they don't get arrested.
2. I feel some people who preach prosperity have Axis2 diagnoses, they must know that they are purposely fleecing and stealing from people.

Here I think theologically the issue is legalism in the intrepretation versus spiritual regarding their faith. this is why most scholars do not intrepret the bible literally and consider fundamentalism not to be a religion at all but a cult-like phenonmon.

"norslyman" ...if the bible was fact you wouldn't need faith to believe it was fact

If your child was deathly ill would you keep them home and just pray god makes them better?

No, of course not, you would put your trust in mans science and rush them to the hospital.

Faith crumbles when you need science.

Spendid

religion is the combination of Laws set forth by a God ..the bible contain these laws and explains why they were set forth and why people must follow them ...the bible is the word of God and therefore is religion ..

"MorningSong" only God need no religion but the followers can't find God without religion