Closet devil worshipers working over time to kill off man's hope? And you want us to take 'your' testimony?

"Quikstepper" come on admit it....even in the Christian singles forum where nothing but christians dwell you can tell they hate each other

So is hate a requirement for religion?

Well they wouldn't call it hate of course, but certainly righteous condemnation of anyone that doesn't believe.

"TBrich"....to make vows of worshipping and forever loving an entity that is bend on the torturing of others plus your love ones for an eternity requires more than just hate

Well said.

Lets analyze this for a minute.


We can take this idea we have of a thing, and we can ask ourselves what would be considered a delusional answer about its function or origin. Or even forget delusional, lets only ask what is rational, and what would be more rational.

Lets take real world examples to help understand.

Me and you are security guards walking around a warehouse at night doing our jobs looking for anything suspicious.

We find an unusual lever sitting in a room we have never seen before so we are immediately curious as about this room with this single thing, a lever, inside it.

I say out loud, "I wonder what this lever does", we both take a long hard look at the lever and look around the room for anything it may operate. We do not see anything in the room at all except this lever and its positioned in the center of the room.

Now as we sit here thinking about what it could be lets analyze the range of choices. First off because there is nothing to indicate what it does we have to agree that it could do anything. We also in my mind have to agree that it could do nothing.

Now if you say, "it is the source of all creation and if we hit the lever apocalypse will ensue", and I say, "nothing will happen" while both are possible because we agreed that it could do anything, however when we as rational humans who have earned an understanding of the world around us through experiencing reality are forced to guess which guess would be more likely?

Now come up with your own explanation you do not have to use the ridiculous example I gave, but regardless of what you say the lever will do my position that it will do nothing IS ALWAYS just as rational as anything you can come up with given that there is nothing in the room to indicate what the lever does.

I don't see that at all. You must be on one of those other sites.

No...hate is the fallout from sin proned humanity.

"He without sin cast the first stone"

Does this mean that only a person without sin should meet out judgment and punishment?

If so, then I would conclude that by this single statement the religious right would need to drop all attempts to prevent gay marriage regardless of whether it is sin or not.

BTW proned is not a word.

Geeeez, what ARE you thinking injecting logic into this discussion.

Your right I should be stoned . . . oh wait. . . .

Feels good to be right? So much so that you would first look to express ways to prove others wrong before even considering any value.

It must be a lonely place.

"Quikstepper"..so couldn't one say the same about the statement you made ...since you provided no proof of what you stated beyond your own opinion

spendid
right I'm lonely and you have voices to keep you company ...sorry but the bible is religion you are suppose to read it and do as it says ...if not then maybe it's time you turn to pantheism then you can worship a god and no bible but your own

Funches

It seems like you start some threads just to wait like a spider for people to respond, so you can trap as many as you can to prove as many wrong as possible.

And in your responses, when you "include" the quotes of those to which you're responding, you conveniently leave out specific statements that might incriminate your behavior and describe how it might affect others.

This is why I say it must be a lonely place. It seems to me that there can be no real connection to other people when one is in a place of constantly putting others beneath oneself.

You can rebut all you want by putting me down, saying I hear voices and point to the delusion of and mock the other person.

It's not going to bring anything closer to any kind of sense of connection. It only further divides.

No solution….

Only more pain for self and others.
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I can see how this could seem that I'm coming from a Holier than Thou place and demanding that you "play nice".

Yes... There's a purpose for everything… even things that may sometimes occur to me as mean spirited.

splendid

geez "Splendid" if I agree with you will you quit yapping about it and stay on topic

if you follow the bible you are either Jewish or Christian ...if you believe differently but yet follow the bible then you are in denial about being either Jewish or Christian

Funches

If you read, actually considered and included ALL of my last post, you may have been less inclined to respond with insults describing my input as yapping.

Talk about dismissing.

Why would I wish to open up to that?

geez ...it's like we're married or something ...ok dear whatever you say dear ..now can we get back on topic

so dear ..oops i meant splendid..is it because you yourself follow the bible and choose not to call yourself religious but spiritual

Well, Darling...

I never actually followed the bible, per se. I've read some (certainly not all of it) and, as of late, it's making much more sense to me when religious interpretation is removed. It seems to explain so much more about the directions mankind has taken through time and the history of human nature when viewed with an open mind (unencumbered by religious dogma).

if man control "energy" to make a good house, it is seen and recognized as a good house, using good intelligence, and having good learned knowing, and utilizing this all together, give "power" to create, and easily seen since all humans know "man" makes houses?

if "energy" or power be controlled, to guide all matter into the form of a earth, and galaxies, it is most good, and function is most excellent ways, can this be called wisely called "accidental" perfection?

does man create anything "most good" without KNOWING HOW to do it?

how is a universe and earth and human bodies, that are most excellent in all function and skill and operation, able to be created by some "unknowing", as if "energy" magically decided to "control itself" into something most good?

sure, to create what is so advanced to the mind of smaller knowing man, is far removed from the mind itself, and rightfully so, but the knowing that unintenioned or sloppy or guesses of man, never created anything most good, that did not soon fall down, show more knowing as well......

energy guided to collect matter, and form it into perfect things, does not happen itself, and many of the greatest discovers called good scientist, that have studied all the ways things and ways of earth and creation, have come to conclude such as well......

just ideas......