Thanks, friend, they are actually very good out at university hospitals, but it is a drive for me, its not necessarily important to find those in the know about mental illness, I will really appreciate any forms of kindness and blessings and out reach into better health. I actually just joined the gym too so working the body is going well and bringing me closer to
feeling like a real person instead of a sxhoid.

You are now and always will be a real person with feelings and hopes and dreams.

I believe in you and know you can

(((Hugs))) thanks for your well wishes.

I think so. I was working with a dementia resident and she was praying; One of those travailing prayers for help from God. While she was praying out loud for help I was praying internally. She was asking for help from God and I was praying to God for assistance to help her. God answered both our prayers because she calmed down and let me help her.

I am a sckitzphrenic and I am bipolar. I Had a very hard time dealing with religion and my mental illness for a very long time. Than one day when I was admitted into the sunrise mental health unit, I asked the doctor if I could speak to my priest. He agreed, when the preist came to visit me, I let him know, I need to stop all beleif and pursuit of religion or any form of religous idealisms for a long time, so I can work on my mental health because religion is causing me to hallucinate and think things I know aren't real but that are causing me alot of mental stress and breakdown.
He told me, I had to step away from God and take care of my health first, and once I had achieved that, than I could return to my father God. But he saw it the way I did, a mental illness is the same as a broken arm, it takes time to heal, and you will have aches and pains from it occasionally.
so you know, it took me 9 years to get my act together so I could step into a church with confidence knowing I took care of my mental health before returning with reason and accountablity, and with knowledge behind me to back me up.
The more you know about your illness the better you will be prepared to face what may come and the better you will know how to reason out a manic episode or a depressive low or if you are hallucinating, you will need to get your medications in order so that your symptoms are lessened so that you are more functional in daily life than you were before you took your meds. Sometimes meds take 5 to 6 weeks to work right, or even a few months. Also keep an eye on the side effects from meds.
And speaking as a christian, we are God's children, there for we have a little bit of God's spirit inside of each of us and God is greater than evil and therefore he gave us that understanding as well, and no one and nothing has the right to take God's blessins away from his children. Therefore, you need to take care of yourself and let God do his business and you do what he wants you to do, each of us to do, which is to do the right thing by taking care of our bodies and minds.

Been there, done that...The doctors told me I was schitzophrenic because I was hearing voices and drugged me until I could barely function.
My mom kept coming to see me and told me it was Satan trying to claim me,but the doctors told me it was a mental illness and with meds it would go away....I listened to them instead of my mom ....I told the doctors what the 2 people I were hearing name's were, Lucifer and Nicodemus, they told me it didn't mean anything. Later, I went back to church and had the elders pray over me and the voices seemed to have disappeared on their own....I strayed another time when I got Spinal Meningitus, but since then I being a Christian

One of the things that the nurse noticed with one resident we had was that the side effects of the medications concurred with what the schizophrenic resident demonstrated in his behavior. When she reported it to the doctor the doctor found different medication for that resident to take. We have noticed that when some residents have their medications changed it does affect their behavior. Some medications react with other medications, too. That is why we have to document changes in resident behavior on our ADLs.

RainbowTrout, I think you may be talking about mentally disabled adults, MR, Down syndrome and others, and not mental illness, schiz. and bipolar and depression; but its still a struggle for either population to be close to God, so I appreciate what you had to say. Or forgive me if I'm wrong, I don't think they really like the mentally ill to be in resisdential treatment centers, unless just for a little while, so maybe these people had MR as well?

lilwick and writer_gurl, I'm so glad you didnt turn away completely from God and found your way into peace despite your challenges. Its interesting for me, I want to be again the person I was BEFORE I became so ill, since I was quite religious at one time. It may never happen, since no body gets to go backward, but, its my goal anyway, defy age and all,

Yes, you should be okay to go to church on your meds.

Are the meds giving you a flat affect or any problems?


Thanks, yeah I can tell you know about the sz.

I have flat affect yes, but also lack of emotion or ability to really
engage and feel connected, sometimes poverty of speech.

I'd like the church attendance again for fellowship and worship and the teachings, I am very isolated.

As far as a personal relationship with the savior, I'm not sure if I'm able to do that with thinking I'm talking to myself in delusions and voices again.

I can try, though. It scares me.




I don't know why it would scare you? Yashua will "never leave you or forsake you". He is always there. It is just a matter of becoming aware of his presence. You don't need to go to church for that. Just sit quietly with your bible and read. Pick one verse to meditate on for a while. Find a good devotional book with prayers specifically for mental illness.

Yes, working out will be excellent. Getting out of the house and just walking and getting fresh air. Watch your diet. Stay away from sugar and diet anything (aspartame, nutrisweet BAD). Ever try Apple Cider Vinegar? Srong taste, but add to juice. Braggs also has Amino Acids which is usually right next to the Vinegar, spray on your food. Both are cheap. Also, B vitamins to feed your brain. Ever hear of Royal Jelly - packed with B vitamins.

Mental Illness is usually caused by mental illness. If you are schizophrenic, then you need to be going to therapy and on medications. It's not a demon any more than having to wear glasses is a demon. I'm not saying that prayer wouldn't help, but it's not a demon. I would question the reasoning of anyone who claimed that mental illness was caused by demons. There are plenty of illnesses caused by bacteria and viruses. There are auto-immune diseases. We know that some mental illnesses are caused by hormonal imbalances. Some are caused by brain damage and degeneration. Schizophrenia generally starts in the 20's and appears to be genetically linked as it can run in families. There is no reason to think that schizophrenia is anything other than a mental illness for which one can have a genetic propensity to suffer from.

My personal belief is that our body allows our soul to be manifest into this world. If your body is damaged or diseased, your soul cannot be properly manifested. Mental illnesses of all kinds are diseases of this life and will have no place in the next.

I think of the soul as a beam of light and the body as a pane of glass. The glass might be scratched or dirty or painted over, but that in no way effects the beam of light, it simply changes how the light appears on the other side of the pane of glass.

Wallace, I got to read a book by a Doctor once who wrote a fascinating book about admittance. If I remember right his name was Doctor Spaz. It was an old book about asylums. According to the book a person was admitted and the receptionist labeled the person as being schizophrenic. From that point on that was that person's condition. People were clumped together. A couple of months ago our DON showed me where the Status Resident Sheets were at in our ADLs. Last year at our church during a revival time an evangelist helped me. From going to different churches he noticed a certain condition among people with what can be construed as demonic possession. He would just touch the people on the top of the head and they would immediately have soaked shirts from an outpouring of the eyes. He touched me and it happened to me. I felt a lot better afterward. I got to see the movie Patches during CNA school with Robin Williams and I thought it was a great movie. One of our residents I was getting up because she is on my get up list said let us pray before I got her her up. I prayed with her. I believe in the scripture where two or three are gathered together in my name there I will be in the midst. God has made my job easier and I don't have to pay God for the help which is good because our nursing home doesn't allow volunteers due to liability. I am all for doing my job the easy way because I have a lazy disposition. God even makes my job fun at times.

Yes, I agree. Our brains are incredibly complex and need proper nutrition to function correctly. Also, toxins can start to build up due to our horrible American diets. Detoxification and nutrition are the keys.

I think schizophrenia is just a chemicle inbalance in your body and has nothing to do with devils,the best way to cure it by finding something that can balance neurons in your body system back to normal usually medication which can produce some very serious side effects,heard smoking but am not sure,exercise, getting enough sleep

Hi, thanks for your replies. I guess instead of saying demons, a more proper way of putting it is: madness. And without medication this sort of thing can be struck up like striking a chord on a string, or triggers. I've also become very sensitive, or touchy, because of PTSD that I have, so small amount of stress or a bad vibe can turn into a situation or at times an episode. Its nothing as bad as Lord Byron, on a terrorizing streak, but it can get so that the mind sink further into a pit of emotions and feelings and starting down over-wrought paths that lead to insanity. I think of religion like the sun on that path, sometimes its blinding and it hurts or can burn, and other times it helps the mood and its a way to see yourself clear on that treacherous path.

Hi Winx and everyone:

I'm going to a funeral this morning for my uncle, he died, he was truly larger than life and lots and lots of people will be there. This will be my first church service in a long time, and I'm looking forward to it. His one son is a minister, and the others in the family are very religious also. I am looking forward to opening my heart. I will let you know how it goes. I may start out thinking creatively to talk to God and then see what happens, since I'm still writing lots of poems while on this 9mg of invega.

Have a good day.

I wish you the best today.

thanks.