Topic: Arrogant Narcissistic Conceited Jerks Thread
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Sat 01/10/09 05:52 AM

I have already been with too many narcissistic jerks. I'm holding out for a nice guy that I can safely treat like a god.


Honey, that treatment plan will give him a big swelled head.:wink:

oh.embarassed


that was your intention.
slaphead

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Sat 01/10/09 05:54 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Sat 01/10/09 05:54 AM
Generally we don’t hear about narcissistic individuals being admired by others but more often than not, we tend to have difficulty in understanding why they seem to feel they are superior or worthy of such envy. huh happy

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Sat 01/10/09 06:13 AM

I would draw a clear distinction between being intellectually intimidating (Lex might fall into that category) and just being a bully.


I've never attempted to be either -- and I don't think I've ever been accused of being a bully -- but the "intimidating" line gets tossed around frequently enough that I'm starting to wonder why this many people have chosen -- and make no mistake about it, it's a choice on their part -- to be "intimidated" by something that's generally intended to be interpreted as humorous, thought-provoking, or randomly pointless.

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Sat 01/10/09 06:18 AM
Narcissistic and conceited do not necessarily go hand-in-hand.

The need for pragmatic narcissism is fundamental to manage our self-respect, for if we do not admire/nurture/value our inner/outer self, then that lack of confidence is shown in our demeanor. We are attracted to people whom display self-knowledge and comfort with their ego and their whole life. Such self-appreciation is not conceit, in my opinion. Nor is it unrealistic for us to be attracted to such people, for we each desire confidence in thought and in action in everyone.

In contrast to the youth-centered culture, where the natural physiological beauty is evident with no regard to experience, I value the maturing culture where the beauty is more evident through years of self-nurturing in the face of hardships and unfortunate events. There is truly a distinct and sweet beauty that is evident in the scars of experience, whether inward or outward, when the bearer takes care to blend such scars into the ever-weaving tapestry of life.

For the inexperienced, just know that the matured narcissism includes the ravages of time, all of the way from calloused heels and cracked nails to the graying of wispy hair and the laugh lines and crow's feet by the eyes. The degree of self-care is often only evident after coming to know each person more closely than a glance at a picture can show. Appreciate these facts of life, for it is your future, too, and I wish each of you all the joy of self-discovery along the way.

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Sat 01/10/09 06:23 AM
I've never attempted to be either -- and I don't think I've ever been accused of being a bully


Lex, I was responding to another poster and using you merely as an example of what I would consider NOT being a bully. Sorry if that was unclear.

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Sat 01/10/09 06:26 AM
Edited by Alzeimer on Sat 01/10/09 06:28 AM
We are what we are not matter how we try to be different the real you always comes out at one point or another.

I do not judge others ways only mine, I don't think I'm better or worst than others I am only different and myself, I do not look down or up at people I look them in the eye, I do not need people but I have enough humility to know I cannot always do everything by myself, I do not require that you be my equal, my superior or my inferior but that you bring something new to my life.

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Sat 01/10/09 06:28 AM

I've never attempted to be either -- and I don't think I've ever been accused of being a bully


Lex, I was responding to another poster and using you merely as an example of what I would consider NOT being a bully. Sorry if that was unclear.


No, it was OK. The point I was trying to make above is that, while the "bully" thing has never even come up in my case (and I see no reason why it ever would), the persistent "intimidating" references baffle me. There has never been any attempt on my part to intimidate anyone here. To be honest, I'm not even sure how one would go about doing that here!

Words on a screen -- how intimidating is that? "I've got a gun in my hand and I'm going to shoot you." Well, OK, maybe in person THAT might be intimidating. But on a screen 897,000 miles away from the poster, it's just absurd.

Words -- I've been impressed by them, disappointed, amused, envious, lots of things -- but intimidated? I just don't see how that works.


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Sat 01/10/09 06:31 AM


I would draw a clear distinction between being intellectually intimidating (Lex might fall into that category) and just being a bully.


I've never attempted to be either -- and I don't think I've ever been accused of being a bully -- but the "intimidating" line gets tossed around frequently enough that I'm starting to wonder why this many people have chosen -- and make no mistake about it, it's a choice on their part -- to be "intimidated" by something that's generally intended to be interpreted as humorous, thought-provoking, or randomly pointless.


I can understand the intimidating effect of being more capable than the throng in which you move. It is a reality that precious few people experience often enough to develop social grace when dealing with superior intellect. Lack of self-confidence (i.e., lacking social grace) can be expressed as feeling bullied, for the person whose vocabulary and knowledge are not up to snuff with their intellectual betters. I suppose that such feelings of inferiority are better put to the test in fields of mastery, where people do not feel such discomfort/embarrassment when true masters of a craft are present. When I was a carpenter's assistant, I never doubted that he was my better, nor did I ever feel "bullied" by his display of experience and expertise.
The concept of feeling mentally bullied is--I think--a by-product of forsaking social graces. Indeed, it is a sign of popularity to forsake social graces in many forms of arts/entertainment, and thus that anti-social value system is created and passed along to the viewing audience.

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Sat 01/10/09 06:39 AM


I would draw a clear distinction between being intellectually intimidating (Lex might fall into that category) and just being a bully.


I've never attempted to be either -- and I don't think I've ever been accused of being a bully -- but the "intimidating" line gets tossed around frequently enough that I'm starting to wonder why this many people have chosen -- and make no mistake about it, it's a choice on their part -- to be "intimidated" by something that's generally intended to be interpreted as humorous, thought-provoking, or randomly pointless.



Ladies and gentlemen! We have a winner!

BOB!! Tell him what he's won!!

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Sat 01/10/09 06:42 AM


I have already been with too many narcissistic jerks. I'm holding out for a nice guy that I can safely treat like a god.


Honey, that treatment plan will give him a big swelled head.:wink:

oh.embarassed


that was your intention.
slaphead


blushing

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Sat 01/10/09 06:44 AM
:banana: Jerk:banana:

scoundrel's photo
Sat 01/10/09 06:46 AM



I have already been with too many narcissistic jerks. I'm holding out for a nice guy that I can safely treat like a god.


Honey, that treatment plan will give him a big swelled head.:wink:

oh.embarassed


that was your intention.
slaphead


blushing


bigsmile flowers

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Sat 01/10/09 06:46 AM
Make no Admissions:)

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Sat 01/10/09 06:52 AM




I have already been with too many narcissistic jerks. I'm holding out for a nice guy that I can safely treat like a god.


Honey, that treatment plan will give him a big swelled head.:wink:

oh.embarassed


that was your intention.
slaphead


blushing


bigsmile flowers


All I aim for in my relationships is mutual satisfaction. In every way. bigsmile

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Sat 01/10/09 07:03 AM

Generally we don’t hear about narcissistic individuals being admired by others but more often than not, we tend to have difficulty in understanding why they seem to feel they are superior or worthy of such envy. huh happy


Let's turn that around --

Why do people believe that the others feel they are superior or worthy of such envy when nothing has been done to convey that perception?

It's an assumption -- based on -- what?

That's where I'm trying to take this.



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Sat 01/10/09 07:11 AM
Edited by scoundrel on Sat 01/10/09 07:12 AM



All I aim for in my relationships is mutual satisfaction. In every way. bigsmile


Yum.

Out of respect for the OP, and the purpose of this thread, I should point out that you are way too smart for my likes, and that I would shrivel in fear--feeling bullied by your unabashedly effervescent sensuality.:tongue: :wink:

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Sat 01/10/09 07:16 AM




All I aim for in my relationships is mutual satisfaction. In every way. bigsmile


Yum.

Out of respect for the OP, and the purpose of this thread, I should point out that you are way too smart for my likes, and that I would shrivel in fear--feeling bullied by your unabashedly effervescent sensuality.:tongue: :wink:


Flattery will get you everywhere. :wink: smooched blushing

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Sat 01/10/09 07:16 AM

Generally we don’t hear about narcissistic individuals being admired by others but more often than not, we tend to have difficulty in understanding why they seem to feel they are superior or worthy of such envy. huh happy

I've always been bashed and shamed for my choices in picking them. Made to feel foolish. Yet, in this thread, they are celebrated. What a double standard.

Perhaps that double standard knows no gender. Perhaps it is also there because what people are referring to as "narcissists" in this thread isn't really a full blown narcissist. The word is thrown about too loosely/lightly.

Have you ever had PTSD as a result of your relationship with someone? I'm not talking physical abuse. If you have had PTSD, well then, you just MAY have been involved with a genuine narcissist. :wink:

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Sat 01/10/09 07:16 AM
Get over it

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Sat 01/10/09 07:17 AM


Generally we don’t hear about narcissistic individuals being admired by others but more often than not, we tend to have difficulty in understanding why they seem to feel they are superior or worthy of such envy. huh happy

I've always been bashed and shamed for my choices in picking them. Made to feel foolish. Yet, in this thread, they are celebrated. What a double standard.

Perhaps that double standard knows no gender. Perhaps it is also there because what people are referring to as "narcissists" in this thread isn't really a full blown narcissist. The word is thrown about too loosely/lightly.

Have you ever had PTSD as a result of your relationship with someone? I'm not talking physical abuse. If you have had PTSD, well then, you just MAY have been involved with a genuine narcissist. :wink:


Na I tend to attract sociopaths both online and off. :wink: