Topic: Evolution Is it Compatible With THE BIBLE?
Seamonster's photo
Tue 02/17/09 06:46 PM


The christians that do not believe evolution.






"The Christians" Do I see him saying specific or certain types of christians.....looks up.....no....so therefore is that lumping "The Christians" together. Why yes Bob I believe it is. So tell them what they win....Well Debbie they win the comment that I made previously.......So voil there ya have it....plain as the nose on your face.


wow you realy know how to read things into stuff thats not there.
I posted it and I know what I meant.
I thought it was obvious, and it is to most I think.

I said "The christians that do not believe evolution."
These People call them selves christians.
These people do not believe evolution.
Did I say All christians are these people?
No of course not.
Again what you are saying is NOT correct.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 02/17/09 06:50 PM
side note: Like in most religions...they teach to treat others good. In Christianity...the Bible has the Golden Rule and even tells us not to judge or try to force your beliefs on others.

talking about it is fine, debating in forums like this is fine....but no one should push anything on others.

you can lead a horse to water but not make him drink. same applies to any beliefs

Seamonster's photo
Tue 02/17/09 06:52 PM
Edited by Seamonster on Tue 02/17/09 06:54 PM


One wonder's if Feral's question will be asked 50 years from today?

In the year 2059...

Will Christian's still have a huge following and those Christians who don't believe in Evolution have a greater following then they do today?

Will they convince Evolutionist's or others who deem uncertain that the Bible is the true calling?

Will those who don't believe in Evolution still believe the Bible is the closest history of how everything started?

Will there still be debates between Creationists and Evolutionists that argue or debate what is true or not?

In the end will it be important or will we repeat history and create the same chaos we humans always tend to do when two opposing sides disagree?

Will Christianity and its following denominations eventually go to the category (already is for some) Mythology and join the stories of Greek, Roman, Norse, and Celtic Mythologies?

Or will it gain popularity as poverty increases across the world and people clinge to the teachings of preachers??

I guess in the end one just has to wait and see as only few sit and actually find out for themselves through research and study.



Christianity has been dominant in this age of Pisces and this age is coming to an end.

It will pass into myth within a hundred years I estimate.




Right,
Christianity is dieing.
The days when money is spent on this.


(Megachurch)


Instead of this.



Are hopefully close to an end.

no photo
Tue 02/17/09 06:53 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 02/17/09 07:03 PM
(((((((((flowerforyouVOILEAZURflowerforyou)))))))

Just had to come back on line and say,

Thank You Voil, for your kind words.flowerforyou

Voil....God GAVE US Science, Technology, Great Minds to Discover ..it's ALLL From Him Anyway...


RESEARCH ..hey..it's OK with God...

but God just Wants Us to Not Leave HIM Out of the Picture.......The Very One Who Gave Us Science and Physics and All of it Out There ..

Great Minds=Great Science....Great Technology....

if Great Minds ALSO INCLUDE the ONE WHO GAVE IT ALL..into the Picture Too..


Imagine....

if Great Minds INCLUDED the ONE WHO GAVE IT ALL....

There is No Telling What Man Could Do..

and Discover....

and Come Up With Then...flowerforyou


Night Voil....flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

davidben1's photo
Tue 02/17/09 07:24 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Tue 02/17/09 07:26 PM

Voil..you are absolutley right!!!

There is only One kind of Evolution .

no micro and macro.

Just Evolution.

Period.

Cause there is ONLY ONE kind of

Evolution taking place in the first place!!

And it takes place ONLY WITHIN a Species!!!

Christians have no argument with that.

BUT Voil, those changes WITHIN a species ,

that is being called Evolution.......

(which comes as a result of a species adapting to its changing environment },

should actually be called De-volution.:wink:bigsmileflowerforyou

Cause Things are slowly and gradually Devolving...or dying...

not evolving at all.

In fact, that may explain the
mystery behind the "missing pieces of the puzzle".... missing links.

Look at man , for instance....

Man used to live to be over 900 years of age.

Today, if man lives to be 80 or 90, that is considered great.

Because of sin entering into the world, God said man would surely die.

Man died instantly , spiritually ( until he becomes born again,

and his spirit becomes alive once more )....



But this physical dying , which is taking place over a longer period of time , is not only taking place with man......

but with all of creation...

until God comes back, and makes all things new...like God Will do in that day when there will be no more death.

Or night....

Or sin.....

In that day when man and all creation will be restored unto its rightful place with God...once more....

as it was in the beginning....

in that day, when man and all creation will know death No more....

In that day when God and Man and ALL of creation shall live in Perfect Harmony...

In that day.....

when the Lion shall lie down with the Lamb.....

In Perfect Peace...once more.
flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

:heart::heart::heart:



how does one know god, if it is "waiting for god to come back"???

was it not said HEAVEN AND GOD BE WITHIN???

wisdom is SAID TO BE GOD WITHIN, so how is it proposed not one human does not seek knowing more???

if there is anything that seek not more knowing, IT BE THE HEART THAT THINK ITSELF BE VALIDATED BY GOD, BY A BELIEF AS GOD???

if it is a belief, IT IS NOT WHO SELF IS, or it coulf not be condidered and spoken of as a belief???

a belief is nothing more than what one wishes to be true, and wishes of what it think itself is, as it only be true if it be what is NOW, so then it is be NO wish!!!






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Wed 02/18/09 02:13 AM

MahanMahan's photo
Wed 02/18/09 02:26 AM

(((((((((flowerforyouVOILEAZURflowerforyou)))))))

Just had to come back on line and say,

Thank You Voil, for your kind words.flowerforyou

Voil....God GAVE US Science, Technology, Great Minds to Discover ..it's ALLL From Him Anyway...


RESEARCH ..hey..it's OK with God...

but God just Wants Us to Not Leave HIM Out of the Picture.......The Very One Who Gave Us Science and Physics and All of it Out There ..

Great Minds=Great Science....Great Technology....

if Great Minds ALSO INCLUDE the ONE WHO GAVE IT ALL..into the Picture Too..


Imagine....

if Great Minds INCLUDED the ONE WHO GAVE IT ALL....

There is No Telling What Man Could Do..

and Discover....

and Come Up With Then...flowerforyou


Night Voil....flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou



Are you like the official spokesperson for God?

How do you know what he wants or doesn't want?

Aren't you afraid of being hit by lightning?

MahanMahan's photo
Wed 02/18/09 02:45 AM
MorningSong,

I hope you know that we're still friends, and I wouldn't argue with you if I didn't care!

With that said, I don't think you should pick and choose what you believe in. It should be all or nothing. For the same God that "allegedly" brought humanity Moses and Judaism, brought Jesus and Christianity. Well, apparently, 600 years after the death of Jesus, he (your god) decided that he once again changed his mind and wanted his followers to become Muslims and thus, sent us Mohammad. So how can you so easily disregard Islam and the prophet Mohammad?

Riddle me that, my dear MS!

The same way you just write off and ignore your God's commands in regards to all Christians converting to Islam, I write off and ignore it all.

no photo
Wed 02/18/09 05:40 AM
Edited by voileazur on Wed 02/18/09 05:44 AM

(((((((((flowerforyouVOILEAZURflowerforyou)))))))

Just had to come back on line and say,

Thank You Voil, for your kind words.flowerforyou

Voil....God GAVE US Science, Technology, Great Minds to Discover ..it's ALLL From Him Anyway...


RESEARCH ..hey..it's OK with God...

but God just Wants Us to Not Leave HIM Out of the Picture.......The Very One Who Gave Us Science and Physics and All of it Out There ..

Great Minds=Great Science....Great Technology....

if Great Minds ALSO INCLUDE the ONE WHO GAVE IT ALL..into the Picture Too..


Imagine....

if Great Minds INCLUDED the ONE WHO GAVE IT ALL....

There is No Telling What Man Could Do..

and Discover....

and Come Up With Then...flowerforyou


Night Voil....flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou




Yet another 'lost battle' Morningsong!!!

Do you not believe in your god Morningsong???

Have you not enough faith in your god to trust that HE created it all, according to the big book???

Have you such doubt in your faith, that you worry about your own god being chased out of his alleged creation by mere, peaceful, hard searching and intellectually curious scientists, whom your god alledgedly created too???

Are you so sure that you are not the one interfering in your god's plan, when you fight, attack, and resist the knowledged, and progress he is allegedly ALLOWING scientists to uncover about the big creation puzzle???

Your god doens't need YOUR help to confirm that he allegedly created all, and all of it is by default, the product of HIS alleged creation!!!

Going around claiming god needs your help to confirm his creation, is so profoundly arrogant, and pityfully pathetic!

Those 'fundamentalist-apologetic-freaks' are going to wear you thin with all these intellectually and spiritually deceptive claims 'Morning'!!!

Believe in Jesus for yourself Morningsong, if that is your choice, but please STOP LISTENING TO THESE FUNDAMENTALIST-BIBLE-INERRANT-APOLOGETIC FREAKS!!!

Pharisees had the arrogance that 'fundamentalist' freaks are exhibiting 'Morning', and you know what Jesus thought of those Pharisees!!!

Let go of the freaks and their two bit rhetoric, Morning.

Let go of the freaks and believe, trust, and have faith in your god!


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Wed 02/18/09 05:55 AM

feralcatlady's photo
Wed 02/18/09 06:53 AM
Edited by feralcatlady on Wed 02/18/09 06:55 AM
Well it looks like all is as upleasant as ever.......


I have to read a few pages back then will respond





davidben1's photo
Wed 02/18/09 07:45 AM




indeed, you speak wisely, as anything that repeat only words once heard, cannot reproduce any life for itself, nor any other???

if there be any greater sight of "any text or god", it only see the meaning of homosexual or "fag" in this way???

peace


davidben1's photo
Wed 02/18/09 07:54 AM
Edited by davidben1 on Wed 02/18/09 08:03 AM
what speak truth that "think" itself speak the only truth, see NOT what is most truth, as truth only be "what is most real" each second, and since each second is new, so to is what be most real or truth???

an eye that see as truth or not truth, only show itself see not, that all words only add to what was known before they were heard???

the most profound LONGEST distance from what be most real, be what believe it see what it most real as a "constant"???

a mind that "think" it know god, see not that it cannot know "god", less it know at all times it does not, as if god be god, then such be infinite all knowing, and nothing that even begin to "think" with it's mind it knows infinite answers, does not ALLOW ITSELF to "hear" from any infinite KNOWING called "god"???


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Wed 02/18/09 01:26 PM



Voil.....I think I am in the mood to start with you......

Like the song says

A very good place to start.....lol

First off are you God....that you feel you need to save MS from madness...a bit dogmatic I would say.

And again are you god that you can see into the future and know anything of dead troops resurrecting....hmmmmmm maybe you should practice a lil of what you preach Mr.

And again you think your so high and mighty that "YOU" can tell MS she has been sold a rotten bill of good.

And again oh godly voil I don't think anyone is against science...(assuming aren't we)


Have you maybe thought of anger management classes

And the sad thing is you can rant all your lil voil heart wants to....But guess what...IT JUST DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT IS SWEETS.


feralcatlady's photo
Wed 02/18/09 01:29 PM
Proof baby proof......talk the talk.....but show me the proof....no one has.......


science = theory










Evolution has proven the bible false and obsolete.
So no, they are not compatible.


Creation proves the Bible and ever will it be obsolete so yea.....But believe you came from an ape...ok by me.


uhg.
Yes creation proves the bible and I came from an ape.

I think I know the mentality I'm dealing with here.
You just flat out refuse to learn, and you have no concept of evolution or what it is.
"creation proves the bible" is a statement that not only makes absolutly no sense but shows an incredible amount of ignorance.


LMFAO! I can't believe that this thread has lasted this long. You're exactly right. They flat out refuse to acknowledge years of scientific evidence and solid proof that backs up the theory of evolution.

The three books that are most poisonous to the human mind published today are:

Torah

Bible

Quran

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Wed 02/18/09 01:36 PM



The christians that do not believe evolution.






"The Christians" Do I see him saying specific or certain types of christians.....looks up.....no....so therefore is that lumping "The Christians" together. Why yes Bob I believe it is. So tell them what they win....Well Debbie they win the comment that I made previously.......So voil there ya have it....plain as the nose on your face.


wow you realy know how to read things into stuff thats not there.
I posted it and I know what I meant.
I thought it was obvious, and it is to most I think.

I said "The christians that do not believe evolution."
These People call them selves christians.
These people do not believe evolution.
Did I say All christians are these people?
No of course not.
Again what you are saying is NOT correct.


H E L L O

When you "The Christians" You are lumping them together. Now if you would of said "The specific Church" that was protesting then ok.....And hmmmmmm can you tell me how to take it.......NO Can you tell me how to feel.....NO How to think NO.......And just because "You" know what you mean doesn't mean we will.....so if your going to do this in the future maybe be a lil more clear....

I am no ones judge....just as you are not. If people want to protest anything....It is "YES" there God given right to do so.

Seamonster's photo
Wed 02/18/09 01:41 PM




The christians that do not believe evolution.






"The Christians" Do I see him saying specific or certain types of christians.....looks up.....no....so therefore is that lumping "The Christians" together. Why yes Bob I believe it is. So tell them what they win....Well Debbie they win the comment that I made previously.......So voil there ya have it....plain as the nose on your face.


wow you realy know how to read things into stuff thats not there.
I posted it and I know what I meant.
I thought it was obvious, and it is to most I think.

I said "The christians that do not believe evolution."
These People call them selves christians.
These people do not believe evolution.
Did I say All christians are these people?
No of course not.
Again what you are saying is NOT correct.


H E L L O

When you "The Christians" You are lumping them together. Now if you would of said "The specific Church" that was protesting then ok.....And hmmmmmm can you tell me how to take it.......NO Can you tell me how to feel.....NO How to think NO.......And just because "You" know what you mean doesn't mean we will.....so if your going to do this in the future maybe be a lil more clear....

I am no ones judge....just as you are not. If people want to protest anything....It is "YES" there God given right to do so.


Wrong, it is NOT a "god" given right.
It is a right that the U.S. constitution gives.
It has nothing to do with your or anyone elses god.

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Wed 02/18/09 01:47 PM




The christians that do not believe evolution:






"The Christians" Do I see him saying specific or certain types of christians.....looks up.....no....so therefore is that lumping "The Christians" together. Why yes Bob I believe it is. So tell them what they win....Well Debbie they win the comment that I made previously.......So voil there ya have it....plain as the nose on your face.


wow you realy know how to read things into stuff thats not there.
I posted it and I know what I meant.
I thought it was obvious, and it is to most I think.

I said "The christians that do not believe evolution."
These People call them selves christians.
These people do not believe evolution.
Did I say All christians are these people?
No of course not.
Again what you are saying is NOT correct.


H E L L O

When you "The Christians" You are lumping them together. Now if you would of said "The specific Church" that was protesting then ok.....And hmmmmmm can you tell me how to take it.......NO Can you tell me how to feel.....NO How to think NO.......And just because "You" know what you mean doesn't mean we will.....so if your going to do this in the future maybe be a lil more clear....

I am no ones judge....just as you are not. If people want to protest anything....It is "YES" there God given right to do so.


looking at the continued complaining over the pictures I think I see what the 2 main problems are.
1. the use of the period(.) instead of the colon(:)
2. The Christians who are complaining over "being lumped together" are, for whatever reason, refusing to see that the poster posted the picture as an example of the type Christians that steadfastly refuse to accept evolution.

MahanMahan's photo
Wed 02/18/09 01:47 PM
My dear FCL,

First off, science = theory?

I suggest next time you get sick, to NOT go to a doctor, do NOT take any prescription OR over the counter medicine, milk your own cow and do NOT use any pasteurized milk, as those are marvels of modern science! Why won't you do what the Bible tells you? If you break your arm and it hurt, then cut it off. If you're feeling ill, make a cut on your body and let yourself bleed out a bit. Or follow some other wise biblical remedies!

Now, you keep raising the argument that you're not seeing any proof to back up my argument against yours.

WHAT THE FCKK IS YOUR PROOF? A old book that was written by some barefoot uneducated sand dwellers who thought the Earth was flat? How come God didn't tell them otherwise?

Show me some other proof. Some real evidence. Your ignorance used to be cute, kinda amusing... Now it's real annoying. I hope you don't have any offsprings, or if you do, that you didn't brainwash them into believing the same crap as you.

feralcatlady's photo
Wed 02/18/09 01:51 PM
Oh my bad excuse me......that was me talking when I said God given right.....see how easily you can misunderstand when something is not clear to begin with....hmmmmm