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Topic: Anti-semitism alive and well around the world.
Winx's photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:04 PM

I don't always agree with the mentioned forum posters, and half the time i don't even read their articles because they are long, dry, and boring (in my opinion anyway). But they have people who like reading their posts, and i normally have some left field reply that makes no sense except to me.

Just let them do what they do best, and you can debate with them if you feel one of their statements is false. Meanwhile, I will be petting kittens and playing WoW until 4am every night.

FOR THE ALLIANCE




You have kittens now?!

jtmcdole's photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:07 PM



Giocamo:
6,464 launched from Gaza in the last three years


Quick little calculator shows thats ~6 a day for 3 years.

You still didn't give any reference, its just a number on a forum. BBC, AP, Reuters, these are citable references that I would give some credence.



read Charles Krauthammer...just Google him and peruse his writings...



no photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:07 PM
This is exactly the kind of mentality that Bush created after 9/11. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. He later rolled that on back but not far enough.

I can't remember how many times I heard your not patriotic if....

I think after 8 long long years people are fed up with being shut up!

damnitscloudy's photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:08 PM


I don't always agree with the mentioned forum posters, and half the time i don't even read their articles because they are long, dry, and boring (in my opinion anyway). But they have people who like reading their posts, and i normally have some left field reply that makes no sense except to me.

Just let them do what they do best, and you can debate with them if you feel one of their statements is false. Meanwhile, I will be petting kittens and playing WoW until 4am every night.

FOR THE ALLIANCE




You have kittens now?!


I wish! I still go out to the animal shelter and play around with them =D

madisonman's photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:08 PM


I realy did wonder how long it would take to be accused of being an anti semite it is normaly that statement that ends debate. But this is far far differant nice try though thomas looks like your running out of arguments and had to put this cowardly method to use



Well Madisman 95% of what you posts are nothing more than conspiracy theories.Thats why the only people who agree with you are other left wing liberals.

You say I am a coward but answer me this question.

Do you support Israel's attack on Hamas a terrorist origination?

Do we know it is Hamas and not some rebel agitators? Even in my town I could launch a home made rocket into the next town. I wouldnt expect the next town to napalm the innocents in my town, in that context I do not support Israels attack. I do not support missles into Isreal either and Ido not support the blockade of humanitarian relief to gaza either . Tell me thomas do you support the slaughter of men womam and children and how does this make me an anti semite or un american. I would say I am as american as apple pie

jtmcdole's photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:09 PM
Edited by jtmcdole on Sat 01/03/09 11:10 PM


I realy did wonder how long it would take to be accused of being an anti semite it is normaly that statement that ends debate. But this is far far differant nice try though thomas looks like your running out of arguments and had to put this cowardly method to use



Well Madisman 95% of what you posts are nothing more than conspiracy theories.Thats why the only people who agree with you are other left wing liberals.

You say I am a coward but answer me this question.

Do you support Israel's attack on Hamas a terrorist origination?



Not when Israel possess far superior weapons, but are still killing innocent civilians.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7809959.stm
The UN has warned of a worsening humanitarian crisis, and believes 25% of more than 400 Palestinians killed by Israel so far were civilians. Israel says about 80% of those killed were Hamas militants. Four Israelis have been killed by rocket fire from Gaza.

Giocamo's photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:13 PM
Edited by Giocamo on Sat 01/03/09 11:14 PM
rewind...

6,464 launched from Gaza in the last three years ...Assyrians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Persians, Romans, Alexander the Great of Macedonia, Germany and Hamas...I think Israel has had enough !...

Thomas3474's photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:16 PM

This is exactly the kind of mentality that Bush created after 9/11. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. He later rolled that on back but not far enough.

I can't remember how many times I heard your not patriotic if....

I think after 8 long long years people are fed up with being shut up!





This is about Israel and the Palestinians.It is not about anything else.You may look at it as a black and white issue but this really is a no brainer.

You have a country (Israel)who has worked and tried to live in peace with with the Palestinians.The Palestinians have from the start wanted Israel destroyed and that is exactly why they voted a terrorist origination to run their govenment.Even with out attacks by Israel they have sent suicide bombers and missiles there on nearly a daily basis.They are not interested in peace but destruction.

I am not sure what you want me to think of you when you defend terrorist and put down Israel.If Hamas wants Israel destroyed and you support Hamas then is it a lie to say you would like to see Israel destroyed also?

madisonman's photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:17 PM

rewind...

6,464 launched from Gaza in the last three years ...Assyrians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Persians, Romans, Alexander the Great of Macedonia, Germany and Hamas...I think Israel has had enough !...

yea well with my country bankrupt I have had enough of haveing my tax dollars donated to Israel. Let them fight on their own dime and see if they try diplomacy first. I little give and take instead of a massive genocidal responce. I do not think you people know how indiscriminate the killing is. But of course you dont, Israel will not let in any reporters or humitarian aid. No witnesses.

Giocamo's photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:19 PM


rewind...

6,464 launched from Gaza in the last three years ...Assyrians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Persians, Romans, Alexander the Great of Macedonia, Germany and Hamas...I think Israel has had enough !...

yea well with my country bankrupt I have had enough of haveing my tax dollars donated to Israel. Let them fight on their own dime and see if they try diplomacy first. I little give and take instead of a massive genocidal responce. I do not think you people know how indiscriminate the killing is. But of course you dont, Israel will not let in any reporters or humitarian aid. No witnesses.



how many times do you want Israel to " turn the other cheek ? "...

madisonman's photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:24 PM



rewind...

6,464 launched from Gaza in the last three years ...Assyrians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Persians, Romans, Alexander the Great of Macedonia, Germany and Hamas...I think Israel has had enough !...

yea well with my country bankrupt I have had enough of haveing my tax dollars donated to Israel. Let them fight on their own dime and see if they try diplomacy first. I little give and take instead of a massive genocidal responce. I do not think you people know how indiscriminate the killing is. But of course you dont, Israel will not let in any reporters or humitarian aid. No witnesses.



how many times do you want Israel to " turn the other cheek ? "...
you havent a clue as to the issues over there do you? trust me they are bigger than apin prick home made missle. I am sick of funding that countrys wars. If they stood on there own they would be more willing to negotiate in good faith. We need to stop our blind support of israel andstop funding them or at least place conditions on the funding. They are dragging us down with them

karmafury's photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:27 PM
Hmmmmmm.

1. The difference between Hamas and the Irgun is what exactly?

Oh yeah, Irgun were 'freedom fighters' who won their cause.

2. In the recent 'retaliation' the Israelis hit a mosque, a religious institution, killing 10 civilians. They also hit the American School, thankfully devoid of students at the time, killing a civilian nightwatchman.

3. Historically the area was promised to the Palestinian people. It was called 'The British Protectorate of Palestine'. Promised to revert to the Palestinian people after the war, WW2.

Thomas3474's photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:31 PM



I realy did wonder how long it would take to be accused of being an anti semite it is normaly that statement that ends debate. But this is far far differant nice try though thomas looks like your running out of arguments and had to put this cowardly method to use



Well Madisman 95% of what you posts are nothing more than conspiracy theories.Thats why the only people who agree with you are other left wing liberals.

You say I am a coward but answer me this question.

Do you support Israel's attack on Hamas a terrorist origination?

Do we know it is Hamas and not some rebel agitators? Even in my town I could launch a home made rocket into the next town. I wouldnt expect the next town to napalm the innocents in my town, in that context I do not support Israels attack. I do not support missles into Isreal either and Ido not support the blockade of humanitarian relief to gaza either . Tell me thomas do you support the slaughter of men womam and children and how does this make me an anti semite or un american. I would say I am as american as apple pie


I knew you would have to cop out.I knew you couldn't give me a simple yes or no.Yes it's Hamas because 1).They are running the country and 2.)They take credit for the suicide bombs and rockets and want Israel destroyed.

If women and children are going to hide rockets in their houses,schools,and mosques(which they have been)then if they get killed because they are there who is at fault?Was it not their choice to have them there?If women and children support Hamas no I do not feel sorry for them.Women and children can carry suicide bombs just like full grown men and often do.If women and children do not support Hamas and are killed by bombs then that is regrettable said this once before...they voted them in,they can die beside them(or defect to another country).Evil is evil.That can include women and children.

no photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:32 PM

This is about Israel and the Palestinians.It is not about anything else.You may look at it as a black and white issue but this really is a no brainer.

You have a country (Israel)who has worked and tried to live in peace with with the Palestinians.The Palestinians have from the start wanted Israel destroyed and that is exactly why they voted a terrorist origination to run their govenment.Even with out attacks by Israel they have sent suicide bombers and missiles there on nearly a daily basis.They are not interested in peace but destruction.

I am not sure what you want me to think of you when you defend terrorist and put down Israel.If Hamas wants Israel destroyed and you support Hamas then is it a lie to say you would like to see Israel destroyed also?



Excuse me but I rarely see things in black and white only.
One more time Thomas, I do not defend terrorists. But I will defend innocent lives on both sides who are sick to death of all this insanity and killing and those responsible on both sides that could care less about that.

It just goes to show you only scan what people are saying, if you read what we said completely ...... oh never mind you would probably still think the same way. Don't know why I bother with you.

madisonman's photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:38 PM




I realy did wonder how long it would take to be accused of being an anti semite it is normaly that statement that ends debate. But this is far far differant nice try though thomas looks like your running out of arguments and had to put this cowardly method to use



Well Madisman 95% of what you posts are nothing more than conspiracy theories.Thats why the only people who agree with you are other left wing liberals.

You say I am a coward but answer me this question.

Do you support Israel's attack on Hamas a terrorist origination?

Do we know it is Hamas and not some rebel agitators? Even in my town I could launch a home made rocket into the next town. I wouldnt expect the next town to napalm the innocents in my town, in that context I do not support Israels attack. I do not support missles into Isreal either and Ido not support the blockade of humanitarian relief to gaza either . Tell me thomas do you support the slaughter of men womam and children and how does this make me an anti semite or un american. I would say I am as american as apple pie


I knew you would have to cop out.I knew you couldn't give me a simple yes or no.Yes it's Hamas because 1).They are running the country and 2.)They take credit for the suicide bombs and rockets and want Israel destroyed.

If women and children are going to hide rockets in their houses,schools,and mosques(which they have been)then if they get killed because they are there who is at fault?Was it not their choice to have them there?If women and children support Hamas no I do not feel sorry for them.Women and children can carry suicide bombs just like full grown men and often do.If women and children do not support Hamas and are killed by bombs then that is regrettable said this once before...they voted them in,they can die beside them(or defect to another country).Evil is evil.That can include women and children.

pityfull responce. Sorry if my annwer was over your head. It seems to me folks like you demand a black or white answer unfortunalty we live in a grey world. I am out for the night happy trolling thomas

Thomas3474's photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:38 PM


This is about Israel and the Palestinians.It is not about anything else.You may look at it as a black and white issue but this really is a no brainer.

You have a country (Israel)who has worked and tried to live in peace with with the Palestinians.The Palestinians have from the start wanted Israel destroyed and that is exactly why they voted a terrorist origination to run their govenment.Even with out attacks by Israel they have sent suicide bombers and missiles there on nearly a daily basis.They are not interested in peace but destruction.

I am not sure what you want me to think of you when you defend terrorist and put down Israel.If Hamas wants Israel destroyed and you support Hamas then is it a lie to say you would like to see Israel destroyed also?



Excuse me but I rarely see things in black and white only.
One more time Thomas, I do not defend terrorists. But I will defend innocent lives on both sides who are sick to death of all this insanity and killing and those responsible on both sides that could care less about that.

It just goes to show you only scan what people are saying, if you read what we said completely ...... oh never mind you would probably still think the same way. Don't know why I bother with you.



Do you not know the concept of good against evil?Who do you think the good guys are here?Why would you defend Hamas when their only intention is to inflict more pain and kill more civilians?Don't you realize that it is not just the military but the entire population who wants Israel destroyed.Have you ever seen a single protest against the Palestinians from other Palestinians defending Israel?

We are at a war here.Civilians are going to be killed it has always happened during every war.I say let them fight it out.This has been long overdue.I know you liberals are always saying how the United states should keep out of other countries business.

Winx's photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:40 PM
Edited by Winx on Sat 01/03/09 11:41 PM


This is exactly the kind of mentality that Bush created after 9/11. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. He later rolled that on back but not far enough.

I can't remember how many times I heard your not patriotic if....

I think after 8 long long years people are fed up with being shut up!


This is about Israel and the Palestinians.It is not about anything else.You may look at it as a black and white issue but this really is a no brainer.

You have a country (Israel)who has worked and tried to live in peace with with the Palestinians.The Palestinians have from the start wanted Israel destroyed and that is exactly why they voted a terrorist origination to run their govenment.Even with out attacks by Israel they have sent suicide bombers and missiles there on nearly a daily basis.They are not interested in peace but destruction.

I am not sure what you want me to think of you when you defend terrorist and put down Israel.If Hamas wants Israel destroyed and you support Hamas then is it a lie to say you would like to see Israel destroyed also?



You made it about something else when you said this:

"I already knew we had a lot of America haters in here but now we can add we have quite a few anti semitics in as well.Only the those who truly hate America and Jews ...."

And this:

"Is that why we have to read the daily nauseating posts from Madisonman,Warmachine,and Lynann which only find reasons to put America down?Of course we can't possible write a posts that actually says anything possible about America or fighting terrorism.It's always the same depressing,regurgitated,topics that make me want to slice my wrists open.Of course I didn't think you would understand since you are always on their side of their Anti-American propaganda war.."

You brought me in on the last sentence.


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Sat 01/03/09 11:44 PM
I am appalled that you think that choosing a side equates to being Anti-semetic...........Do you realize that the Jews have become the thing that they have feared for decades(bullies and war mongers) for you to think that all Palestinians are part of Hamas is erroneous and faulty..........Palestinians and Jews are cousins why are they killing each other they are both accountable for the demise of their people..............Jews fled from Europe because they experienced genocide and then they do it to their own fellow men..............that is trully HYPOCRACY AT IT FULLEST................

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Sat 01/03/09 11:46 PM
Edited by boo2u on Sat 01/03/09 11:52 PM

Do you not know the concept of good against evil?Who do you think the good guys are here?Why would you defend Hamas when their only intention is to inflict more pain and kill more civilians?Don't you realize that it is not just the military but the entire population who wants Israel destroyed.Have you ever seen a single protest against the Palestinians from other Palestinians defending Israel?

We are at a war here.Civilians are going to be killed it has always happened during every war.I say let them fight it out.This has been long overdue.I know you liberals are always saying how the United states should keep out of other countries business.



Yes Thomas I am fully aware of the concept of good agaist evil. And good and evil. what I find also particularly evil is ignorance.

I fully realize that Hamas is a terror organization, why do you keep insisting we are standing up for Hamas. Please freaking read a full post now and then. I'm done for tonight, you just are not capable of listening to anyone but your self. You can call me liberal until your blue, but you really have no bloody clue what your talking about.

I thought I was uninformed, but you take the cake. At least I want to hear both sides first, and or at least recognize that there is another side... ugh


Winx's photo
Sat 01/03/09 11:51 PM



I don't always agree with the mentioned forum posters, and half the time i don't even read their articles because they are long, dry, and boring (in my opinion anyway). But they have people who like reading their posts, and i normally have some left field reply that makes no sense except to me.

Just let them do what they do best, and you can debate with them if you feel one of their statements is false. Meanwhile, I will be petting kittens and playing WoW until 4am every night.

FOR THE ALLIANCE




You have kittens now?!


I wish! I still go out to the animal shelter and play around with them =D


Cool.:thumbsup:

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