Buttons -- that's a good question -- why are they made in the first
place?

I really have no idea. Attention? Revenge for some perceived slight?
I don't know.

But it seems to me that it's almost always a reflexive, knee-jerk sort
of thing. They are never well thought-out, they seem rushed and random
and disorganized. Which may only make things worse.

I still think a good dose of communication and maturity could take care
of most of the problem.

"I guess I feel like it takes two -- one to bait, and the other to be
baited -- and there's always a choice there, to take the bait or not.
It boils down to a lack of two things -- communication and maturity."

I totally agree Lex. Ignoring them is best. If no one takes the bait,
who are they going to argue with, themselves?

well if it is for attention.... why would a person want attention of
trying to hurt or downgrade others?.... is this a way to get attention?

and as far as revenge goes... does this make it right?

Hummm we all have the choice and will power not to fall into the game
and just don't post to it. If it is a thread that bothers some then
leave it alone and think of post that are interesting instead of
bringing attention to the post themselves. As long as others put logs on
a fire it will continue to burn. If others post come up that are
interesting then those are the ones that will continue to burn longer.
Myself if I don't like a thread I just don't respond to it. I don't care
about the ones who is gonna give who a blow job or will you sleep with
the ones above you but it seems a lot does for they have been going on
for quit sometime. But.. does not mean I must join in on that thread.
Yeah I do go read them every so often but just chose not to post to
them. Everyone has diffent things they like to read and post so if that
is what they like who am I to say it should stop. As long as it is not
attacking one single person per se but.... if it gets to that point it
will be removed in JSH for Van & MIke will not allow that thread to
remain. People need to learn to debate not throw the stone at one
certain person. Good clean debates are awesome you get so many differnt
opinions we are not alike and don't think alike learn from the opinions
of others don't let it get to you.

i agree with u tx but those threads u are speaking of were made
with the intention of having fun... joking around or perhaps to see who
would meet u.... they were not with the intent of hurting or lashing
out at someone... or rising anyones blood pressure... etc.... they were
made with the intent of a positive thought.. in mind when they were
made..

ok im replying to this thread for spay...... he emailed me.. ill cut and
paste it... for him deleting the screenname he put in it....

I AGREE WITH PPL BAITING THE THREADS, <screen name> HAD GOT ME BANNED
AND IT WAS MY FAULT FOR WHATEVER REASONS.

PLEASE PUT THIS IN YOUR THREAD HUNNY

XOXOXO TODD aka SPAY

not worth being banned over is it??

Yeah, yur right with that. But sometimes what seems like a joke or
having no intentions of hurting someone else does backfire at times.
Like Lex said they don't take the time and the thoughts of what might
happen when they post the thread. We all at one time or other have done
or said things with out thinking it out completly before we say or do
it. So in the long run maybe just maybe it was really intended as more
of a joke but was taken wrong by others. NOT saying it was but it is a
posssiblity that is what happen.

SOME FOLKS JUST DONT KNOW HOW TO HAVE FUN...IF YOU GET YOUR FEELINGS
HURT,MOVE ON.TRUST ME,YOU WILL GET OVER IT! TAKE A BREATHER THEN COME
BACK! LIKE TXS SAID, IF YOU DONT LIKE THE THREAD...DUH!! DO POST!!!!
CANT GET ANY SIMPLIER! ALL GOES BACK TO BEING CHILDISH AMD IMMATURE BUT
YOU RAISED A VERY GOOD POINT BUTTONS! IM SURE YOU OPENED A NEW
CAN OF WORMS TOO...LOL


BE HAPPY OR BE GONE!!!

excellent point txs, to one it may seem innocent and reasonable, to
another it may seem like baiting. YOu haveto just listen and pay
attention first. If you dont like the thread then ignore it. If it
gets abusive, by all means report it so mike or van can take care of it.

Well I think that it is an important issue. Look at how fast this thread
just took off. I personally have felt like I am in the presence of some
very nice people up here, and to see someone get hurt, well, it hurts.

Debates, and attacks are two different things.

Lisa, I dont think you could offend anyone if you tried!!!

and so is having fun mg.... but to have fun with the intent of hurting
others is just plain wrong in my eyes..

yes tx i agree with u some are made to have fun but others i dont see
it that way.. just my opinon though...

Buttons -- some people seek attention regardless of the form it takes --
they see no difference between constructive and destructive, just so
long as it gets noticed. I don't see a lot of that on here (with one or
two notable exceptions), but on other sites with forums, it's fairly
common. Think of it in terms of a 2-year-old throwing a tantrum, and
you'll see the "negative attention" analogy.

And it's a well-recognized psychological principle that people who feel
inferior to someone else will often do their best to tear down the other
person, rather than make an attempt to improve themselves.

greatly said as always lex!!!!!

i guess one should think when they make the thread in the first place...
what is the intent of me making this thread?.. as i clearly stated my
intent...

Okay in the first place I know the thread and the person Spay was
refering to. What happen is the person had been banned from here they
came back and baited Spay in a conversation BUT it was Spay that made
the choice to say what he did that actually got him banned once again
(remind you it was not the first time Spay had been banned nor the
second). He was giving plenty of warnings about what he says in the
forums. Then of all things he makes another profile and trys to sneak
back in was caught and then was BANNED for a longer period of time. So
you tell me who was right or wrong and if he should have been banned. He
has been banned I was told for a month. But if he keeps it up and having
others posting for him and bringing it all up over and over who knows he
could work hisself into being BANNED for good. This is like the fifth
time the issue with Spqay has brought attention. Why let it ride and get
over it he will be back soon and guess we can then start a thread making
bets how long will it be before Spay gets BANNED once again.
lmao See it seems even when he is not here he seems to be able
to keep this stirred up. lol Just my thoughts. Yeah SPAY is funny at
times. But ... I don't always see eye to eye with his sense of humor
either. I have seen him be very rude to others. I'm not into seeing
others be rude for no reason sorry I talk to Spay in the forums but not
one to follow his lead.

Hell I have seen otheres so many times in here get in a heated debate
with Sheile (sp) (sorry). What amazes me if you will leave the names out
and not go directly after her, hell some might learn a few things. She
is one smart cookie. Myself I have never got in a heated debate with her
have got in a debate with her on a few subjects. I tell ya the girl does
her homework too. But... now I would rather get in a debate with
someone that knows what there talking about instead of someone just
throwing stuff in the wind to see how many they can piss off.

I like to joke around too but hey if we are gonna throw words out there
then we must also take the punishment for our actions as well.

Well put Lex...

i was posting spays thoughts in here is all tx.... and i thought
it was important... cause when one makes a "baiting thread" these things
do happen.... just another thing to think about....

In a perfect world, one would always be aware of the potential
consequences of everything one posts. In a more practical sense, that's
not always possible, because how could you anticipate every possible
reaction to every possible combination of words one might put out there?

I have always believed that a person who is bound and determined to be
offended can ALWAYS find something to be offended by.

But I do think it's important to know the intent of the post before you
write it. Are you asking for infomation? Do you just want to toss a
discussion topic out there? Or are you trying to stick the needle in
someone?

If you know WHY you're posting something, you can at least phrase it in
a way that causes the least amount of trouble! Hopefully. And if you
know WHY, you might change your mind about posting certain things in the
first place.

At the same time, this should never prevent anyone from posting a
legitimate message. There is such a thing as being too self-censoring.