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Topic: Why do humans feel they have to be governed?
BrandonJItaliano's photo
Fri 12/26/08 07:55 AM
Why is this archaic idea of hyerarchy still practiced? Why do we allow ourselves to be subjegated and mastered by another human being for there own personal gain?

In my mind, If man kind had the gaul and fortitude to establish there own lives based on things that truly mattered, then this idea that 1 man is here on this earth to master another is a phalasy.



All governemt is, is the abbility to extort mankind while doing so in the name of humanity!




Fanta46's photo
Fri 12/26/08 08:02 AM
Without government a society could not exist without lawlessness and anarchy!

Quikstepper's photo
Fri 12/26/08 08:02 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Fri 12/26/08 08:02 AM
The concept of a free people was always based on their ability to SELF govern...that means rights WITH responsibility.

Big govt. is what you get when people are dumbed down.

Fanta46's photo
Fri 12/26/08 08:03 AM

the concept of a free people was always based on their ability to SELF govern...that means right WITH responsibility.

Big govt. is what you get when people are dumbed down.


Like the last 8 years.......

Fanta46's photo
Fri 12/26/08 08:06 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 12/26/08 08:07 AM
It wasn't untill the last 2 years that most Americans wised up and then spoke up and voted up.
Some diehards may never wise up. The dumbing down will stick to them forever Im afraid!!

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Fri 12/26/08 08:32 AM
We are governed not because we want to be, but because we have to be..... Can't take care of our own lusts and greed.... Plain and simple...slaphead

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Fri 12/26/08 08:41 AM

We are governed not because we want to be, but because we have to be..... Can't take care of our own lusts and greed.... Plain and simple...slaphead


The most lustful & greedy are the ones making the rules, & breaking them.

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Fri 12/26/08 08:42 AM


We are governed not because we want to be, but because we have to be..... Can't take care of our own lusts and greed.... Plain and simple...slaphead


The most lustful & greedy are the ones making the rules, & breaking them.



Yu got that one right!!!!

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 08:46 AM

Why is this archaic idea of hyerarchy still practiced? Why do we allow ourselves to be subjegated and mastered by another human being for there own personal gain?

In my mind, If man kind had the gaul and fortitude to establish there own lives based on things that truly mattered, then this idea that 1 man is here on this earth to master another is a phalasy.



All governemt is, is the abbility to extort mankind while doing so in the name of humanity!






Are you suggesting that we don't need laws that we have to live by? Or am I missing your point?

Fanta46's photo
Fri 12/26/08 08:46 AM
Its amazing what 8 years of poor, corrupt leadership will do to the mindset of the people of a country..

BrandonJItaliano's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:05 AM
Edited by BrandonJItaliano on Fri 12/26/08 09:07 AM


Why is this archaic idea of hyerarchy still practiced? Why do we allow ourselves to be subjegated and mastered by another human being for there own personal gain?

In my mind, If man kind had the gaul and fortitude to establish there own lives based on things that truly mattered, then this idea that 1 man is here on this earth to master another is a phalasy.



All governemt is, is the abbility to extort mankind while doing so in the name of humanity!






Are you suggesting that we don't need laws that we have to live by? Or am I missing your point?


Repression breeds retaliation, its a simple equation. The minds of the people have to change and no law can do that! Mans Laws are a hollow shell that cant fix any problems, they just initiate fear followed by retripution

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:10 AM

Repression breeds retaliation, its a simple equation. The minds of the people have to change and no law can do that! Mans Laws are a hollow shell that cant fix any problems, they just initiate fear followed by retripution


Okay, I can agree with that. But, does that mean we do away with laws like murder, theft, rape?

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Fri 12/26/08 09:13 AM
Again the problem lies in how divided we see each other, if the idea was in place that we are all part of this bigger picture and learned that the idea of Brotherhood is not some whimcycle ideal, but a true possibilty, than all of those diplorable acts would cease to exist

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:16 AM

Again the problem lies in how divided we see each other, if the idea was in place that we are all part of this bigger picture and learned that the idea of Brotherhood is not some whimcycle ideal, but a true possibilty, than all of those diplorable acts would cease to exist


Okay, I see what you are saying now. Unfortunately the human race is not ready for that. However, I do see the possibility for it in the future through continued evolution.

Fanta46's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:33 AM
Government equals the playing feild. Without it the strong will rule and the weak will follow by fear in the light and use terror to fight back in the dark!

ANARCHY!!!!!!!

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:42 AM

Government equals the playing feild. Without it the strong will rule and the weak will follow by fear in the light and use terror to fight back in the dark!

ANARCHY!!!!!!!


While that may be true to a certain extent now, I think the op was talking a more advanced way of doing things. And, humans are jut not ready for that.

However, that being said, a lot of what the government currently does to try and make things equal actually makes things worse. You cannot legislate people into believing differently than they do.

Fanta46's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:44 AM
Majority rules and all administrations are not like the last one.

Fanta46's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:45 AM
Even then the voice of our people won out!

American democracy does work!

Fanta46's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:48 AM
Human nature will never change!

Fanta46's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:55 AM
Without laws and a gov to enforce them the strong will rule according to their whim and the meek will remain silently obedient untill they develop a means to fight back. (How do you think the progression of weapons development began, and why we now have nuclear weapons?)
Terrorisim gets its origin from the same place. You can wish and hope all day and night, but what you speak of, no centralized gov, will only lead to anarchy, more wars and violence, and innocent people being massacred!

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