exactly how is it in God's grace to claim that Jesus is God ...in fact it lessens God .. God is supposely omniscient and Jesus clearly isn't, God is supposely omnipotent and Jesus clearly wasn't, surely God could create a rock that Jesus couldn't lift

Jesus had to resort to deception to first relay his message to the people in the fear or the concern of getting stone..

Jesus's intentions was to move followers aways from the laws handed down by the God of The Old Testament and unite the souls unto him ....isn't that what the Antichrist was supposed to do

The Old Testament never mention any thing about a Trinty and clearly never mention anything about worshipping three Godheads..could the Trinty and Jesus be a tool of Satan to help break God's law of false idol worshipping as a means for Satan to gather souls

I'm curious as to why you ask us these questions when you already obviously know everything there is to know about God and will not even consider any of the answers you may get back.

(This is a rhetorical pondering...requiring no actual answer.)

It is a very good question.

Are we afraid to talk about it and prove each others points?

If you are sure he is not then what is the problem showing that he is who you say he is?

Shalom...Miles

"Ljcc" ...as I am curious as to why you always complain about the questions I ask instead of just giving an answer ...

over the years when you were in school did you relay the same question you ask me to your school teachers

The old testament contains the beleifs that jews worshiped before jesus, after him his followers became christians and beleived in the trinity thing and held jesus in a very high position. Those that did not follow jesus and stuck to the old testament are "Jewish". Very similar religeons, one with one g-d and one with two or three things to worship, it is mentioned in the old testament that there is to be only one g-d.

Jesus was God in the Flesh. The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit, all the same

scripture says: " If you have seen the son you have seen the father"

His name was "Emmanuelle" ( spelling ?) meaning "God with Us".


The Anti (more properly translated, "instead of") Christ will come first and decieve many. We will still be in flesh bodies. Many will think he is Christ come to fly them away to safety (Rapture) and be mislead. sixth seal, sixth vial, sixth trump.



Jesus Christ returns at the Seventh Trump. AFTER the Anti Christ . We will instantly be transformed into spiritual bodies at that time ushering in the Millenium, or the Day of the Lord.

Jesus Christ

"jtree" ..right God's law is to worship one God ...not three of them

if a Messiah was to come it would be one that reinforced God's law not make it seems like God's laws in The Old Testament were mistakes... to do so would lessen the God in the eyes of the people and that is exactly what is happenning today as followers dump Yahweh as God and proclaim Jesus as lord

what was CHRIST'S deception and where does it say that?

i do believe that CHRIST said he didn't come to change moses law (give me a few and i'll give you the scripture)

i believe the bible

i have many questions my biggest is if CHRIST was GOD in the flesh why did he pray? i don't understand that but i except it for what it is

"Sharpshooter" ..that's my point...a God in the flesh is in fact no God ...Jesus couldn't do anything without supposely calling The Holy Spirit to aid him ...and why would a God need to do that...Satan could have easily aided Jesus in performing his tricks in order to place him in power with the followers

"wadsfun"...Jesus told the people that he was not there to change the laws of Moses or to claim that he was God because he was concern at that point in time of being stoned by them ...

you can either look at it as being deception or self-preservation ...but why would a God need to do either instead of just telling the truth ..doesn't that sound like the work of Satan

"wadsfun"....I'm sure you can come up with numerous reasons why one may feel the need to pray ..

but how many reasons can you come up with as to why a God needs to pray to theirself

I believe he led by example myself, Born in the flesh and ressurected as an ensample as to how to do things. Being fair, he didn't ask us to do anything that he hasn't or can't do. Many of his acts as Christ were examples.

"Sharpshooter" if christ was to lead the people by example then his first lesson was how to be deceitful ...

Jesus did what is called "Bait and Switch" ...the bait is switch is when someone lure you in with a false agenda and then spring on you their actual agenda

it Jesus was truely a God omnipotent or all-knowing surely he could have came up with a better way to first teach the people without starting off with deception

Didn't understand a word you said. But if I think I understand you somewhat, my answer is this:

I said what I said because I have been involved in funches' threads. And he has no interest whatsoever in considering or exploring any of the replies he gets back. He has already made up his mind regarding the answer to the questions he asks about God.

He is free to believe what he wants. I just think that he should submit his post in the form of a statement...rather than a question...since he isn't really interested in discovering what might be the truth about God....so much as debating for the sake of debate.

I'm probably just better off just staying out of funches' threads altogether.

like i said there are alot of things i don't understand

besides if we could understand all that GOD could do then he wouldn't be much of a GOD

Jesus preformed many miracles and taught love and peace and that is the why he and satan are different satan whats to draw people away from GOD and JESUS drew them to GOD

Please remember to keep your responses in a debate style form. If it deems that can not be done then please pass the thread up.

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"wadsfun" ..you can't blame this one on Satan ...Satan had a beef with only one God not three and Satan never preached about worshipping three godheads ...

doesn't it appears that the trinity is what split God into three Gods in order to deceive the people to follow a false God

"ljcc" ...couldn't that same be said about Jesus

and "ljcc" ...couldn't the same be said about each and ever Christian

Yup. Just like the same can be said about Santa Claus and cheese and rocks and glitter. Just like anything can be said about anyone or anything. But saying a thing.....doesn't necessarily make it so.