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Topic: Jesus Christ or The Antichrist
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Mon 12/29/08 04:23 AM


It clearly indicates that Jesus is the devil laugh Just kidding.


You are right he is not, He is the son of...Miles



Nope Miles....

Jesus is NOT the son

of the devil.






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Mon 12/29/08 04:36 AM
MS, this is the reason it was brought up.

Krimsa said:

"Lucifer, son of the morning."

This is the only verse in the bible that mentions Lucifer. Although most Christians consider Lucifer to be Satan (the devil), there is little biblical justification for doing so. In this verse "Lucifer" refers to the king of Babylon and Lucifer (the light bearer) is also called the "son of the morning" or morning star. The only other person that is referred to in that way is Jesus. Its possible that Jesus is actually Lucifer I guess.


Its just because both Jesus and Lucifer are described identically in the KJV

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Mon 12/29/08 04:51 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Mon 12/29/08 05:11 AM
Krimsa...

Jesus Christ Himself is called the morning star in Rev. 22:16 where he says:

"I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

Jesus is also called the Lion of Judah..and is also called the Lamb.



Lucifer, at one time , was also referred to as the the morning star...

and in fact, was one of God's most beautiful and gifted angels....

until he rebelled against God, cause he wanted to be God himself....

but that does not mean Lucifer IS the morning star....he ISN'T....

but remember....he still wants to be God.....

but can ONLY try to IMITATE Christ Jesus.

Nothing more.

Lucifer(satan) also comes as an "angel of light"....

to decieve.....

but that does NOT make him an angel of light either.

Again remember..his goal is to be LIKE God.

Also.....satan comes AS a roaring lion ...

another way he tries to IMITATE God(but ONLY Jesus IS the LION of Judah)...

Also...satan will have an anti-christ...who probably is somewhere in the world already....

who will have a trinity..just like God..
and will imitate Jesus Christ in every way...even rising from the dead.

Point is...just because Lucifer tries to imitate God ,
doesn't make him anything like God.

In fact, he has already been DEFEATED over 2000 years ago..by what Jesus did on that cross.

All the enemy can do now ,is just try to DECIEVE....

but again....the Victory over the enemy ,
has already been WON ,

by what Jesus Christ did on the cross for us all.

And all who recieve Jesus ,
have the same Victory also,

over all the wiles and ways of the enemy.


The devil is nothing but a defeated foe.

Again.......the Victory has already been WON....in a rigtheous and just way....by what Jesus already did on that cross.....

it all is still just in the processs of unfolding....that's all.


:heart::heart::heart:





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Mon 12/29/08 09:39 AM



It clearly indicates that Jesus is the devil laugh Just kidding.


You are right he is not, He is the son of...Miles



Nope Miles....

Jesus is NOT the son

of the devil.




MS.

Do some studying and show all of us what prophecy says about the identification of the Anti-messiah.

What will be his marks that his followers will adhere to?

What will he claim?


Who will the world follow?

Why does the world hate the 2 witnesses when they come on the seen preaching the word of Yahweh?


How is it possible if it were not for the Elect that the whole world would be decieved?


What is your outlook on these questions as identifying the Anti-messiah?

Shalom..Miles




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Mon 12/29/08 09:48 AM
Miles....Jesus is NOT the anti-christ.

The anti-christ has not even risen up in power yet....but when he will , he also will also rise from the dead...as Christ did.

Have you heard of anyone rising from the dead yet?

Miles..I can't open your eyes to this misconception you have about Jesus Christ.

Only God can.

:heart:




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Mon 12/29/08 10:21 AM



It clearly indicates that Jesus is the devil laugh Just kidding.


You are right he is not, He is the son of...Miles



Nope Miles....

Jesus is NOT the son

of the devil.




"MorningSong" the only creatures from heaven that were getting Earth Women pregnant was the Nephilm and God was so disgusted with this activity that he created The Great Flood in order to kill all the offsprings of the Nephilm

to now say that God have done the same thing to The Virgin Mary that he condemn the angels for doing seems to lessen God ....that's why if Mary is claiming to have a virgin birth other then that by a human host it's only logical that an angel got Mary Pregnant and not God ..when placed in that context... Satan could be Jesus's father

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Mon 12/29/08 10:42 AM

Miles....Jesus is NOT the anti-christ.

The anti-christ has not even risen up in power yet....but when he will , he also will also rise from the dead...as Christ did.

Have you heard of anyone rising from the dead yet?

Miles..I can't open your eyes to this misconception you have about Jesus Christ.

Only God can.

:heart:






The Anti- Messiah rises saying who he is. To do this then people have to believe he is to come but not known as the anti-messiah.

His deadly wound that is healed is after he starts on the scene of who he is. This is for our proof he is from Yahweh.

Well he will not say that I believe but he will be as the world knows the scriptures.

remember he is a fake.

He claims that which he is not.

The whole world loves him.

Now who could this be? Shalom..Miles

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Mon 12/29/08 10:47 AM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Mon 12/29/08 10:49 AM
Rev 12:1-12

Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. 2 Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.

3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. 4 His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born. 5 She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to Yahweh and His throne. 6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by Yahweh, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.

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And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven,"Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our Elohim, and the power of His Messiah have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our Elohim day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time."
NKJV


A short time..HUmmmmm...Shalom...Miles

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