Time... I'd like to go back to the relativity of the issue.

Sagan said "If a creature existed on the 4th dimension (which is time), it would be able to move in and out of this dimension at will."

We as humans, operate on such limited frequency levels, whether thats based on what we can see, what we can hear or even what we can perceive.

When it comes to time, its a relative subject, totally. Remeber George Carlins bit about his dog and how it had no perception of time, if he was gone for 5 minutes or 5 days that dog always acted like he thought Mr.Carlin had been gone for a month.

String Theorists often speculate on M theory that Time is in fact more like a river, with its ebbs and flows.

Myself, time only exists when I'm on the clock at work!

Good one 'war',

For most of us, that's pretty well where we're '(c)locked in'!!!

now we know who all mingle STONERS are this is a stoner topic.... PASS IT OVER HERE

If all movements stopped, could there be any assessment of time?

Btw I only ask rhetorical questions.

All movement stopped: in other words, absolute zero for the entire universe.

We would be unable to mark clock time as we do because our present means relies on molecular motion.

Of course we would all be dead but that is besides the point.

.........Great metaphorical piece 'davidben' !

Love it!!!

if one "love it" the meta phorical, and the meto phorical, become when it is eaten, and is now then what has morphed, being "energized" or quickened some say, the meta become now into meta physcial, and then eaten again, and hast then become energized into physical, so now literal, and eaten again, so now as REAL, and the process of life remain the same, and move to a new higher seeing of reality, so a new realm has now been formed, and a new metorphorical to begin, to pass to the humans up above.......

and new realms erase time, time trapped in the mind, and only meta into now remove the veil JB........

PURE LOGIC REACH UP FROM LOW THE ABYSS AND WITHDRAW THE ARAWENESS "BACK UNTO ITSELF", TAKING DRAWING MIND, BY ALLOWING SELF TO KNOW, TO PEER BUT 360 TO FIND THE REAL INTO THE NOW, which the NOW is NO TIME???

Time would be meaningless. Cause and effect requires space and motion.

Time and space are a single entity. To speak of one as existing without the other is equally meaningless.

space create time so it be no longer just space, so space in the sky, reveal what be time, and if what time be is revealed, then this be but "pro cess", time creating space to fill???

and these three be as one in all life???

so what is time, less it fill in the holes, and if the holes be filled in, the the space is whole, so where hath the space gone???

IF AWARENESS WAS FIRST, BEFORE SPACE AND TIME, then time and space was created for awareness, and if awareness is only increasing of knowing "stuff", then when all stuff is learned, from any certain time and space, then they need not any longer exist, so space and time is back to itself, returned as it were out of time and space, now having greater to create a NEW TIME AND SPACE???

a higher realm???

how high do they go, is awarness always was, is, and will be???

it indeed seems the insect on up show just awarerness in "PRO CESS" of being created???


just ideas fellow floater....

peace

time create space

To answer Billy's rhetorical question, (which he believes he has the answer to) Yes there could be an assessment of personal time, but only from the personal perspective of a thinking center.

Said thinking center would not be a physical person or be coming from physical brain activity if all physical movement actually did stop.

Instead, remaining energy fields would be the whole of existence and thinking centers (individuals or souls) would exist within their own personal energy field which generates its own space-time.

In that condition, time is assessed by thoughts which are equal to events.

This condition does exist already... in the infinite NOW. It is a single frame of thought... frozen and forever existing.

It is us that move, not things.

It is consciousness that moves thought, and thought that moves things.

This condition does exist already... in the infinite NOW. It is a single frame of thought... frozen and forever existing.

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how does infinite ever stop, as human time is the frozen, and the infinite is streaming THOUGHT WITH NO DEFINITION THOUGHT OF, as then only speaking INTO ESISTENCE, and is speaking into existence was at the begnning, the what be an ending that is only a beginning???

so does the mind even stop long enough to be deemed to exist???

indeed the human brian has no perception that is can intake and not think, and only allow awareness to give a feeling, and the awareness carry on to the pictures of the mind, and SHOW WHAT IT MEANS, never speaking the description of the cosmos and galaxies and universes and earths and peoples thru "guessing what it might mean"???

IF SOMETHING IS HEARD THAT IS KNOWN IN AN INSTANT TO BE TRUE, WHAT THINKING IS NEEDED???

is IT NOT ONLY AS recieved???

even to speak it back then right away, with an idea in return, is as regurgetating for a human spell, AND COME FROM THE MIND???

awareness listen then SPEAK BACK WHAT IT SOLVE THE EQUASION, AS ALL HEARD IS A EQUASION, NOT A DISPUTE OF RIGHT AND WRONG???

NOTHING SOLVE INFINITE ISSUES AND PURPOSES WITH THE MIND, THAT ONLY SOLVE WITH CORRECTING A PROBLEM, AND INFINITE COMPLETE A PROBLEM???

there be no completion of ANY PROBLEM WHICH CAN COME TO DENY ONE STICH OF WHAT ANOTHER SAY IS THERE REALITY, AS SOON, WHERE DOES ONE STOP???

uh, the slope that LEAD SELF TO A DEAD END, AS SOON BY DENYING OTHERS REALITY, ALL OF A SUDDEN, ONE'S OWN GETS SMALLER AND SMALLER???

but the INFINITE DIAL IS SET AS THIS, FOR A SPELL, TO CREATE AS A SPELL, AS A DREAM WHEN AWOKEN, BUT A DREAM THAT IS CARRIED LONG FORVEVER, AND THE DREAM IS ACCESSED OVER AND OVER TO BUT CREATE MORE TOTAL WISDOM WHEN THE DREAM IS NO LONEGER BROKEN INTO TWO BY MORTAL FEET THAT LOOK ANS THINK AS RIGHT AND WRONG???

SO THEN NOTHING INFINITE CAN BE HEARD INTO THE MIND ITSELF AT ALL, AS IT COME THRU AWARNESS WHICH BE A "TOTALLY DIFFERENT ENTITY"???

not of the BRAIN???

th brain guide the human motor functions and link to the earth as only a HUMAN TIME MACHINE???

the AWARENESS FLOAT AS A "GHOST" JUST BESIDE OR ABOVE EACH THING???

it is SELF OWN GREATER AWARENESS, some calling it god in past days of smaller knowing???

when the MIND think of all seen here, then all is based OR CHANNELED THRU THE MIND OR 'CONSCOIUS" mind, which does not even know this is not it's only form of operations???

IF AWARENESS WAS FIRST, THEN ONLY AWARENESS CAN GUIDE BACK INTO AWARENESS ONLY???

as if to pass into a higher realm, SELF NEED TO CATCH SELF BACK UP INTO ITSELF???

fallen as time, to a lower realm, then picked back up when the MEMORY STAMP PRE-SET BEFORE ARRIVAL, the same as when a man build a house, see it all and inspect for every detail with precision, before even stiking the first hammer???

in his AWARENES THEN FIRST, then execute the EXACT SAME VISION INTO CREATION???

of course, the mind cannot know infinite creation with no effort of physical from self, but also being all of self, in a lower aspect, as if self hang self down into a pit, called what it think will be hell sometimes, the stork the awareness hanging itself low into a lower realm, making it as tread with it's head below the water line, the bring it back up all in one short swift move to infinity???

so then how else is it proposed a human was built???

it is only man resisting somehting as greater than itself, for the simple reason of wishing to be more, that hide what is perfect destiny and why one agreed to come in the beginning, as if anything was in the "thougths of awareness" in the beginning, then nothing was not first AWARE ITSELF, SO THEN KNEW WHAT WAS AHEAD IN THE HUMAN PATH, AND ONLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS, HIDE WHAT IT IS???

things as these are passed thru GREATER AWARENESS UNTO GREATER AWARENESS WITHIN THE POPULATION ITSELF, AS THEIR ARE RAPTURINGS OF PEOPLES ALL DAY LONG IN ALL PLACES, THAT SOME ARE JUST MORE OPEN TO ALL THINGS POSSIBLE AND SO AT TIMES SEE THESE PASSING THRU REALMS???

most of this is made into many things by hearing and seeing such things thru MIND, AS IF SOME AWARENESS PASS THRU REALMS, AND ANYTHING ELSE IS AWARE, IT CANNOT PASS AS UNNOTICED???

all life is already present here, in the SPACE THAT IS NOT FILLED, as is not awareness just a frequency, so then ENERGY THAT TRAVEL THRU A CIRCLE, THE LONGER THE CIRCLE, THE LONGER IT TRAVEL???

WHAT BE TIME????

energy trapped in a circular repeating fashion???

WHAT TRAP THE ENERGY OF SELF INTO THE LONG CIRCULAR BUT MEMORY???

THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY OF OUT THE GARDEN OF EDEN OF SELF IN TIME AND SPACE BUT TO UNWIND THE MEMORY, OR DEBUNK IT, JUST AS YOU SAY JB???

only to see the simple pro cess was so simple it was not even deemed a pro cess by man at all......

INTO WHAT WAS BEFORE THE GARDEN OF EARTH???

just ideas......

peace

Infinite streaming thought does not stop for all ..except when one thinking center itself stops and then places all its attention on that one frame of thought, that one infinite moment of NOW, like a snapshot for the looking, while all else moves past.

It is us that move, and stop among all other things that move and stop. But to hold a thought, to hold a moment is to hold infinity to oneself.

The will moves while thought is moved by the will and is like a river and most are adrift in the river of thought with no will in action.

well, precisely indeed, as to will not anything allow the conscious and memory and subconscious to fall away into infinity streaming thru AS CONSTANT THOUGHT THAT ALL IS AS ONE, NOT ONE THOUGHT AS NOT USED, THE VOICE OF SELF IS AS SELF AS WALKING WHILE CREATING , SO NO TWO VOICED OF LOGIC ANY LONGER, AND ONLY THOUGHT narrating after EACH THING THAT HAPPENED WHAT IT WAS CRERATING, UNTIL ONE WALK INTO CREATING, IN THE INSTANT AND NOW ALL THAT IS THE NOW???

not sure if you are saying the same, lol.....

the frozen in time seems to be most those things the greater awareness pass thru, in amoungst all the others conscious minds thought, and these frozens when held and embraced, yes, be those one's, that if spoken, self even stop self at half spoken at time, the greater self keeping inside what is needed to create and birth energy, for the next wave of unknows that rush the conscious mind as a football team when the conscious damn of thought run out of pre-determined energy, just as the energizer bunny has a stopping point, and so does the mind, as grinding to a halt, in the mind envoked by the cosmos and galaxie and universe and earth all acting in unison to envoke to the "mixing" stage of all data, for the purpose of finishing up a compelted creation of new awarness, as all is STILL EVOLVING AND MOVING FORWARD AND NOT DONE???

but then what that is infinite is ever done???

religion first intentioned to fail in believing any state of some kind was a completetion of some sort of spiritual state???

peace

Thinking centers require movement. All movement would mean even electrons subatomic particles EVERYTHING.

Energy moves in waves and particles, All movement would encompass that as well.

Want to stop aging? Move at the speed of light.

I don't think a thinking center requires movement. When it thinks, it creates movement of thought.

A "sub atomic particle" is nothing more than a set of vibrations. The vibrations are the movement.

A thinking center... is a motionless point in space with the potential to vibrate. (It is not a vibrating object.)

Of course this is an abstract idea.

Energy moves in vibrations which are waves.

Consider that the "speed of light" is zero. It only seems to have speed within the confines of warped space because it is refracted.

Don't worry... I just make this stuff up as I go along.

Doesn't these two sentences seem contradictory?



Yay for Friday, I am almost off work!!!!!!!!


YAYAYAYAY!!!

Nope. A thinking center only creates movement (thought) when it actually thinks. If it does not think... NO MOVEMENT.

(It is pure potential) It does not have to produce thought(energy).

Yes time does exist, if it wasn't for time nothing
would be.

I can see you gave this subject a great deal of thought.

(not)

and in time you will too