Topic: Wiccans - part 3
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Thu 12/25/08 05:17 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Thu 12/25/08 05:21 PM
Na, not at all. You play fine, just not great. I couldnt do that. Lord no. I think people do have limitations and like you say you might be so left brain dominant that it will just take extra work. Its like having a muscle that you have been working out your entire life as a physicist/scientist and now you are trying to lift a lot of different weights all at once with your little atrophied right brain arm. Music is both right and left brain so that is why you are capable of going only so far.

Just keep at it. Drawing on the right side of the brain will help

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Thu 12/25/08 06:03 PM
Here's another song I wrote:

I'm moving these over to a different directory in preperation to link them up with my new web site. I don't have them all linked in yet though.

This one's called "Jenni".

http://www.csonline.net/designer/abra/jenni.htm

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Thu 12/25/08 07:21 PM
shades why does everyone forget the necromancers?

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Thu 12/25/08 07:21 PM

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Thu 12/25/08 07:22 PM

shades why does everyone forget the necromancers?


Welcome to the thread! flowerforyou

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Thu 12/25/08 07:23 PM

shades why does everyone forget the necromancers?


No one is forgetting anything on this thread. Bring the topic up and we will respond. Dont wait for any of us to discuss it because that never works. happy

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Thu 12/25/08 07:24 PM




Its killer Karmaceuticals! laugh :wink:

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Thu 12/25/08 08:02 PM

shades why does everyone forget the necromancers?


Interestly there is a story in the Bible where a King went and sought the service of a necromancer to summon up a dead prophet.

According to the Bible, the necromancer did indeed summon up the spirit of the dead prophet to have a communiqué with the King.

Many people wonder why this is even in the Bible. It only gives creedence to the existence of necromancers and their pragmatic value to Kings. It also suggests that they can summon up holy prophets, (not just evil spirits as most definitions of the word claim)

So according to the Bible necromancers are a valuable resource of Kings and do indeed work with Holy Spirits.

This is contrary to what you will find in most definitions given for the word. Most definitions define necromancers as people who summon up 'evil' spirits from the dead. Clearly that wasn't believed to be the case by Kings in biblical times. They used them to summon up holy prophets supposedly.

I personally don't view the Bible as being any more credible than Greek mythology, so I take anything found in it with a grain of salt and a fifth of whiskey.

None the less, there it is in the Bible. A King using a necromancer to summon up a dead prophet. And she supposedly succeeded in doing this for him.

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Thu 12/25/08 08:04 PM
She? Whats her name?

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Thu 12/25/08 08:06 PM

Its killer Karmaceuticals! laugh :wink:


OMG! I laughed so hard my headache came back!

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Thu 12/25/08 08:07 PM

She? Whats her name?


They don't give her name. She is referred to as the "woman with a familiar spirit".

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Thu 12/25/08 08:08 PM
Uhh, another nameless female in the bible. I will need to look that up.

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Thu 12/25/08 08:15 PM

Uhh, another nameless female in the bible. I will need to look that up.


Check "the witch of Endor"

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Thu 12/25/08 08:16 PM
Got it thanks.

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Thu 12/25/08 08:16 PM

She? Whats her name?


I don't think it gives a name to the woman.

I didn't actually read the the Biblical account. But they give the verses where it is found. I think it's in the book of Samuel, but I'm not even certain of that.

You'll find out because it's in that witch video you just ordered. They give the actual verses where this story is called out in the Bible.

I was going to look it up but in truth I'm just not interested anymore. I have very little interest in what the Bible has to say anymore. To me it would be no different than running off to verify stories in Greek Mythology. I'm sure the stories are there, but who cares?

Not me. drinker

I'm totally 100% convinced that the Bible doesn't hold any more (or less) credibility than Greek Mythology. I have no doubt that some king did indeed to to a witch for a séance.

However, what would be totally shocking is the idea that the biblical God would want that story in "his" book. laugh

Clearly there's a conflict right there. Just more evidence that, at the very least, some of the stuff in the Bible was not inspired by the biblical God.

What's far more likely is that none of it was inspired by any God.

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Thu 12/25/08 08:26 PM
Well how many times were the books translated and rearranged? Two that I know of. Emperor Constantine in Rome and then King James in England. Who knows what they strategically left out or changed. No agendas there of course. laugh

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Thu 12/25/08 08:33 PM
I just looked up "The Witch of Endor" myself.

I have to really crack up at how Christians deal with these things.

They try to make sense of it by totally changing the story.

One suggestion is that the spirit that the witch called up was not the holy prophet at all but an evil demon posing as the prophet.

But that's blaspheme, because that's not what the Bible says. The Bible says that the witch called up the prophet (not a demon posing as the prophet).

These religious people want to re-write what the book actually says in order to justify it.

Another suggestion is that God produced the spirit of the prophet during the ritual and scared the hell out of the witch who never really believed in magick in the first place.

Again, that's totally blaspheme against what the book actually states. The Bible clearly states that the woman summoned up the prophet. It doesn't say that she summonded a demon who was pretending to be the prophet, nor does it say that God had anything at all to do with the event.

Clearly if a divine being wrote the stupid story in the first place he would have clarified what was meant. Since no clarification was given then it's clearly that the story stands as told.

To suggest otherwise is to denounce the Bible which is precisely what the religious people do when they try to defend it.

It's utterly silly.

They claim that the book lies in order to defend it. laugh

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Thu 12/25/08 08:37 PM
Would one even be able to distinguish between a demon and a prophet I wonder? laugh happy

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Thu 12/25/08 08:41 PM

Well how many times were the books translated and rearranged? Two that I know of. Emperor Constantine in Rome and then King James in England. Who knows what they strategically left out or changed. No agendas there of course. laugh


It's pretty well-known that King James tossed out all references to reincarntion because he didn't like that concept.

They also did away with all references to the 'seven heavens' and tried to make like there was always just one heaven.

But they missed a few references here and there. I forget where they are now, but I think that Paul speaks to the idea of various levels of heaven that they forgot to remove.

In fact, it is believed by many scholars that the original stories referenced not only multiple heavens but multple Sky-Gods as well.

There was a God for each heaven. And the heavens were indeed associated with the seven heavenly bodies that visible by the naked eye.

The 'Seventh Heaven' was the last one out which let to the realm of the stars.

There were even many more levels of hell. From like 12 to over 20 levels in some cases.

That too was quenched and made into just one hell, and of course the idea of purgatory survived.

I think Catholics still believe in purgatory today don't they?

But most protestants protested against purgatory. laugh

The little rebels. pitchfork



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Thu 12/25/08 08:42 PM

Would one even be able to distinguish between a demon and a prophet I wonder? laugh happy


Only those in authority within the Catholic Church are allowed to make such determinations. They decide whether or not the person doing these things is a saint or possessed. I don't know what the non-Catholic Christians do. They have to figure it out for themselves. laugh