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Topic: Wiccans - part 3
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Fri 12/12/08 07:06 PM
Well my tea reading isn't doing well for me. Now I shall try with eggs! Just jokinglaugh I need my eggs for a good hearty breakfast every morninglaugh

All across Europe, eggs are used to tell fortunes. The most popular method is to carefully pierce the shell and catch drops of the egg white in the glass of water. The shapes that form in the water are examined and interpreted by an unmarried woman who is looking for clues to her future husband's profession. A ship means marriage to a sailor, a shoe means she'll wed a cobbler , and so on.

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Fri 12/12/08 07:10 PM
Interesting story

In 1474, legal proceedings were instituted at Basel against a rooster accused of laying an egg for purposes of witchcraft. The prosecutor pointed out that roosters' eggs were very valuable for mixing magic potions and that Satan was known to employ witches for brooding these eggs. The magistrates were convinced, and the rooster was convicted as a sorcerer in the form of a bird and burned at the stake together with his egg.

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Sat 12/13/08 05:39 AM
bbq.

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Sat 12/13/08 05:44 AM
Disposing of ritual items in the Hoodoo Tradition:

If you want to keep something close, bury it in your back yard.
If you want to attract something, bury it under the front door step
If you want to destroy its influence, burn it.
If you want it to move away and sink, throw it in running water
If you want to disperse it to a distance, throw it into a crossroads
If you want to fix its influence, inter it in a five-spot pattern
If you want it to work by means of spirits, bury it in a graveyard
If you want to hide its point of origin, conceal it in a tree
If you want it to work in secret, give it in food or drink
If you want it to work by stealth, hide it in clothing or on objects
If you want its influence to begin or strengthen, throw it East
If you want its influence to end or weaken, throw it West

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Sat 12/13/08 08:47 AM

Disposing of ritual items in the Hoodoo Tradition:

If you want to keep something close, bury it in your back yard.
If you want to attract something, bury it under the front door step
If you want to destroy its influence, burn it.
If you want it to move away and sink, throw it in running water
If you want to disperse it to a distance, throw it into a crossroads
If you want to fix its influence, inter it in a five-spot pattern
If you want it to work by means of spirits, bury it in a graveyard
If you want to hide its point of origin, conceal it in a tree
If you want it to work in secret, give it in food or drink
If you want it to work by stealth, hide it in clothing or on objects
If you want its influence to begin or strengthen, throw it East
If you want its influence to end or weaken, throw it West



Are these things you speak of actual objects or visualizations? If they are actual objects could you give an example of a spell using one of the above?


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Sat 12/13/08 09:34 AM
It for disposal of objects. For instance when doing candle magick you always end up with some leftover candle wax and we had been discussing what to do with it.

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Sat 12/13/08 10:09 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 12/13/08 10:09 AM

It for disposal of objects. For instance when doing candle magick you always end up with some leftover candle wax and we had been discussing what to do with it.


oh cool. So its just candle wax. Hummmmm.. nice ritual. I would have just tossed the left over in the trash. laugh

But that might be bad mojo. huh

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Sat 12/13/08 11:15 AM

It for disposal of objects. For instance when doing candle magick you always end up with some leftover candle wax and we had been discussing what to do with it.


That's interesting.

I bought some scented candles for meditations. One thing I noticed right away with these candles is that no wax ever drips down the side of the candle.

I was expecting to the wax to drip down the side of the candle and accumulate at the bottom in a big puddle.

But these candles don't do that.

They burn down and just disappear.

This has me thinking that all of that wax must be going into the air as some kind of gaseous fumes and I must be breathing it with my bad repiratory condition.

Now I'm thinking that maybe these candles aren't the best candles for me to be using. I might be filling my lungs with gaseous wax!

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Sat 12/13/08 11:45 AM


It for disposal of objects. For instance when doing candle magick you always end up with some leftover candle wax and we had been discussing what to do with it.


oh cool. So its just candle wax. Hummmmm.. nice ritual. I would have just tossed the left over in the trash. laugh

But that might be bad mojo. huh


Very bad mojo. But that's just me. :smile:

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Sat 12/13/08 11:46 AM


It for disposal of objects. For instance when doing candle magick you always end up with some leftover candle wax and we had been discussing what to do with it.


That's interesting.

I bought some scented candles for meditations. One thing I noticed right away with these candles is that no wax ever drips down the side of the candle.

I was expecting to the wax to drip down the side of the candle and accumulate at the bottom in a big puddle.

But these candles don't do that.

They burn down and just disappear.

This has me thinking that all of that wax must be going into the air as some kind of gaseous fumes and I must be breathing it with my bad repiratory condition.

Now I'm thinking that maybe these candles aren't the best candles for me to be using. I might be filling my lungs with gaseous wax!


Those sound like "no drip" candles and I don't know how they make them like that.

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Sat 12/13/08 12:13 PM
It could be just a slower burning wick.

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Sat 12/13/08 12:13 PM

Those sound like "no drip" candles and I don't know how they make them like that.


They were cheap candles and didn't claim to be no-drip. But they are supposed to be scented. I say "supposed" to be because they aren't very strongly scented. In fact, I end up burning incense when I use them now because I can't smell the damn candles at all. laugh

I almost burn my nose trying. :angry:

In any case, I noticed that they didn't drip right away because I was actually planning on doing some scrying in the runny wax patterns.

So much for that idea.

They should call them "No-scry candles".

They do have a nice big flame for meditation though. bigsmile

So they aren't a complete loss.

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Sat 12/13/08 12:18 PM

It could be just a slower burning wick.


It is a bit strange because the do burn like FOREVER!

And the other part is that they have a really LARGE flame too!

So that's strange to have such a large flame and burn so slow. But I guess it's because they use every last drop of wax for fuel.

They are nice candles for a flame.

They'd be great for candlelight dinners. Lots of light and long lasting and they don't truly smell at all depsite the fact that they are supposed to be scented.

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Sat 12/13/08 12:50 PM
I don't like slow burning candles for spells. I like to burn my candle all the way down without blowing it out and I don't usually have all day to sit there and wait.

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Sat 12/13/08 03:39 PM

I don't like slow burning candles for spells. I like to burn my candle all the way down without blowing it out and I don't usually have all day to sit there and wait.


Right you need fast burning candles for fast acting spells.


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Sat 12/13/08 04:03 PM


I don't like slow burning candles for spells. I like to burn my candle all the way down without blowing it out and I don't usually have all day to sit there and wait.


Right you need fast burning candles for fast acting spells.




Well, I don't know if it makes the spells manifest any faster, but I don't like to blow them out and relight them when I get home. The candles I use burn in about an hour.

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Sun 12/14/08 07:39 PM
Edited by Ruth34611 on Sun 12/14/08 07:40 PM
I read a used copy of this, "Mastering Witchcraft", by Paul Huson about a year ago. Just thought I would post this review of his book published in 1970.

"The year was 1970. I was 13 years old. I had picked up books on astrology and fortune telling as well as books like Zolar's "The Encyclopedia of Ancient and Forbidden Knowledge". This was the first book on witchcraft I had ever seen. I bought a copy. My parents, used to seeing me regularly buy all sorts of strange books with my allowance and newspaper route money, didn't even bat an eye. This book, more than any other, is responsible for setting me on the path I'm on today.
"Mastering Witchcraft" isn't really about Wicca. It is simply a fantastic introduction to Witchcraft as magick, with very little on the religious aspects. Unfortunately, this book has a poor reputation in some sections of the Pagan community because it teaches attack and control magick. Huson leaves the ethical decisions on whether or not to use such magick up to the reader. He usually warns of the possible dangers, but does not make the decision for the reader by leaving the material out or glossing over it as most other books seem to do.
The first two chapters introduce the reader to magick and the magickal tools of a witch. The next four chapters contain more actual magick spells than most of the rest of my Pagan library combined. Divination magick, love and lust magick, countermagick and protection, and vengeance and attack magic each receive a long and detailed chapter. The final chapter is on forming a coven.
If you are a Wiccan, you may want to avoid this book because of the many ethical problems you will have with it. If you aren't a Wiccan, have an interest in magick, and have the pocket change to buy it, I strongly suggest you pick up a copy. Even if you would never cast a love spell or an attack spell to flatten your enemies, you will probably find a good number of useful spells that you can add to your personal grimoire or book of shadows. I'm one of the people who believes that one's magickal education is not complete if you do not at least know how such things as love and attack spells work. For example, just reading the chapter on attack magick will make you better at defensive magicks as you will know far more about what you are defending against.
In summary, Paul Huson's Mastering Witchcraft is a classic and useful text on low magick. If you have a good moral sense, I think it will make an excellent addition to your library. I just wish that it was still printed in hardback."(c)

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Sun 12/14/08 08:56 PM
I'm glad you didn't recommend that book to me first. That might have turned me off to witchcraft altogether and then I would have never read Penczak.

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Sun 12/14/08 09:01 PM
No, it's definitely not a book I would recommend to someone as a starter. I was studying Wicca and Witchcraft for a couple of years before I picked it up.

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Mon 12/15/08 02:06 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Mon 12/15/08 02:07 PM


Those sound like "no drip" candles and I don't know how they make them like that.


They were cheap candles and didn't claim to be no-drip. But they are supposed to be scented. I say "supposed" to be because they aren't very strongly scented. In fact, I end up burning incense when I use them now because I can't smell the damn candles at all. laugh

I almost burn my nose trying. :angry:

In any case, I noticed that they didn't drip right away because I was actually planning on doing some scrying in the runny wax patterns.

So much for that idea.

They should call them "No-scry candles".

They do have a nice big flame for meditation though. bigsmile

So they aren't a complete loss.


James I have had the best luck with scented candles when I purchased "Yankee" They are not for ritual per se but they have strong scents because they actually infuse the melted paraffin with essential oils which are strong.

I think all that happens with "dripless tapers" is the wick is designed so that it absorbs all of the wax. We made candles when I was in elementary school. :tongue:

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