ohhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhh

like that happens around here

LOL!!

Nope never.

How the hell can athiests have a Christmas, they don't believe in the God, Jesus Idea! Maybe they could have selfmas, or satmas, or erthmass, or dustmas, or amebiamass, but not Christmas!

LOL! dude. go back and read through the damned thread man. really.

its been said and done.

well it obviously needed to be said again, since no one listened the first time! typical of closed minded behavior!

hahaha sorry

didn't mean to be rude. that just struck me as funny

as I said earlier, this is a thread for non-Christians and Atheists

and it is no more appropriate for Christians to come in and trample it than it is for Atheists to go in bashing Christian threads

it's all about common courtesy and respect

It is funny. Because the lady said she only knew what she learned from the media.

I have never read the bible, don't plan to and don't care. But I would never go into a thread that christians wrote talking crap thinking I knew everything and judged everyone. It's rediculous.

Although this type behaviour happens a lot in the politics area.

All I can say is shes watching some Christian based programming, thats for sure.

Actually, no. Can't find any clips on it right now, but it's the Humanist organization and they claim to be reaching out to Atheists and Agnostics this season because "these people are lonely around this time of year".

And I don't call it being ignorant to be using something that comes out of the mouth of an organizational director's own mouth. But if it's easier to simplify things, by all means, go ahead.

So, if you'd like to read more about what this guy said, you can google "Who needs a god?" or "just be good for goodness' sake" and it should pull up some more links you can research. Sorry about not recording it as soon as I saw it and carrying it around in my back pocket all this time. The story is a couple of weeks old. ABC and NBC both ran it.

I just read something about the bus ad, and it said NOTHING about it being because people are lonely. I will copy and paste this from the americanhumanist.org website. Here below!

(Washington, D.C., November 19, 2008) Amid controversy and delight, ads that proclaim: "Why believe in a god? Just be good for goodness' sake," can be seen on Northwest Washington, D.C., buses today. Photos available free for media use can be found online at http://www.whybelieveinagod.org/moreabout.html . Leading up to their roll out, the anticipation spawned striking new developments.

"When the word got out last week about the American Humanist Association bus campaign, it created buzz from Washington, D.C., to Canada, Europe and even South Korea," said Roy Speckhardt, executive director of the American Humanist Association. "It's clearly a message that a lot of people are ready to hear: that you don't need a god to be good."

But there has also been a significant negative reaction in the form of critical phone calls and e-mails flowing into the office of the American Humanist Association. These follow on the heels of religious right efforts to mobilize protests, particularly from the Christian Coalition of America as well as criticism from the Family Research Council, the Catholic League and other groups.

The American Humanist Association has been unable to identify serious criticism from Washington, DC, itself, however, the only area where buses with these advertisements are running. "People here are so used to ad campaigns, demonstrations, and programs that range across the political and religious spectrum that they don't find our bus signs shocking or problematic," noted Fred Edwords, the organization's director of communications. "Indeed, the overall anticipation has ranged from positive to tolerant here. Many people say they're happy to see such a message while others point out that, while they don't agree, it's good that divergent views can be expressed." The "goodness' sake" ads direct interested people to a special Web site at http://www.whybelieveinagod.org/ that helps them find others of like mind in the Washington, D.C., metro area and nationally. The site also informs the public about humanism and answers common objections to the slogan as well as to the appropriateness of running the campaign during the holidays.

In the wake of the campaign, the following events are taking place.

On Sunday, December 7, Beltway Atheists in Washington, D.C., will set up a "Doing Good for Goodness' Sake" booth in Dupont Circle to launch their holiday program to provide aid to the homeless. See http://www.meetup.com/beltwayatheists/calendar/9180913/ for details.

For the holidays, the Greater Philadelphia Coalition of Reason will place a variation of the bus slogan in the center-city Free Speech Zone. See http://www.phillycor.com/tok.php for more information.

The "Why Believe in a God" campaign is the first of its kind in the United States, and the American Humanist Association sees it as having already raised public awareness of humanism.




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The American Humanist Association (www.americanhumanist.org) advocates for the rights and viewpoints of humanists. Founded in 1941 and headquartered in Washington, D.C., its work is extended through more than 100 local chapters and affiliates across America.

Humanism is a progressive philosophy of life that, without theism, affirms our responsibility to lead ethical lives of value to self and humanity.

That really doesnt surprise me. Dont you get it. That is a Christian based organization and they are forcing god on people. They are also reaching the same baseless and ignorant conclusion that you espoused on this thread.

"Normally Atheists are lonely around the holidays because they dont have god."

Thats a load of crap.



I would refer to it as being ignorant if you are clearly only acknowledging the Christian viewpoint. If you were to actually do the research and take the initiative to hear both sides of the story and actually speak with real Atheists and Agnostics to find out where they are coming from and what the holidays mean to them, then you would earn my respect.

Not before then..




I rest my case your honor. Who needs god. Pfft. I dont. You can keep him. I have my own spirituality and you have yours. Let it go at that. My holiday of Yule just happens to be one that was absorbed in the third century by the Christians.

seems to me that there are as many stereotypes and misconceptions about atheists as there are about christians

too much judging and not enough understanding

God loves atheists too

But not impossible, yes?

The only reason I bring this up is because I've seen virtually all of your posts attempting to be based in cold, hard, black-and-white fact (according to somebody). No grey area. However, this very post leads one to believe that it's still all only speculation. There isn't a single one of us that was there to witness this. No one can either prove nor disprove anything. All anybody has are ancient writings....and that goes for Pagans, too.

It simply boils down to faith and belief.

I'm outta here. Y'all can fight amongst yourselves.

Fine. Then lets just forget about all historical evidence since Keith wasn't there, none of it is credible. Thats a ridiculous statement.

are you sure ya'll arent married?

ya'll sound married

Nope.. not the same sources.

I have removed several posts from this thread, and will likely remove more.

Please, no attacking/insulting others.

Hi Mark, how are you?