lack of chi, focus,....and general know how...I can't do it either...lol

there are...

Watch a movie called "A Beautiful Mind"

If I could do TK, or read minds, or anything that is normally associated with this kind of thing I would go win a million dollars even if I just turned around and donated it to charity because I was some kind of GURU.

The sad reality is that everyone would do that, and that really does seem to indicate that all of this stuff is illusion, or tricks.

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Actually there are multiple people, and groups willing to give money for any demonstration, so you could win several million.

Two I can name.
James Randi
Chris Angel.

There is 2 million right there waiting for someone to use tk, or read minds more often then random odds give a chance to do, or any number of paranormal acts that are claimed to exist.

ive seen it. i loved that movie.
true stroy about a real man.
a paranoid schizophrenic

i believe in the ending, the meds started working well. and there is no doubt in my mind that some areas of his brain were functioning at their peak. this is perhaps why he was able to combat his illness almost succesfully.

But i do think aside from the schizophrenia, he had quite a high IQ.

In truth, most who are schizo, are people who are very intelligent...over-active mind....

I don't think anyone on here has claimed to have proveable or demonstrable psychic powers.

Suppose someone wants you to prove that you can move an object using your body. However, they are holding on to it with their body and their body is much stronger than your body. Does the fact that you didn’t move the object with your body prove that the object cannot be moved with a body?

Now substitute the word “mind” for the word “body” in the above paragraph.

Guilty until proven innocent? Or innocent until proven guilty? Pick your starting postulate.

Does that not depend on the will of the person either way?

Or perhaps I should call it determination

My personal experience with the minimal abilities I have to "see" for myself and others:

The things I am able to see come and go at will. I don't have control over them.

When people come to me for readings with the attitude that I need to prove myself I shut down and can't read at all. I do readings to help people, not to prove I can or cannot do something.

I never charge for my readings as it also puts too much pressure on me.

This is funny, we have ways of measuring any effect you could produce that would be meaningful.

I think its a great hoot when there are more excuses then answers.

So, you do not believe in any form of psychic abilities at all?

If he believes in science exclusively, he won't

There are many things I have experienced that I cannot explain. That does not require that I create a conclusion as to the cause.

Think about this . . . if anything is possible, and nothing is more probably then the next thing, and you have no idea how something works, then the chance of being right about the cause is as good as guessing the lottery numbers 10 weeks in a row or much much worse . . . .

Think you can? I call it being realistic . . . you can call it what you want.

Okay.

But, if I want to create a conclusion as to why something happened to me personally, what difference does it make to you what conclusion I come to? You want others to prove the conclusions they came to even though they are not trying to convince you of the truth of the matter.

kewl. anything is possible I do belive that.

sometimes I get weird vibes about things myslef...but I am personally a bit PARANOID..and not always sure i dont overthink some things..who knows

I didn't read every single reply, but I just believe that there are certain "locks" set up in our own brains that don't allow us to use these abilities, or I should say "control" them.


The brain has input on everything a human does, most of what we simply do by impulse without thinking about what we're doing or what the "body" is doing as a background process to simply survive. Healing for example, the body is doing on it's own.


When someone is sick, people gather around, to pray. What they're really doing is trying to focus a sort of energy, to create a bigger energy, and act as a whole in hopes of effecting the ill person. They are all focusing their thoughts "prayers" on one single thing...if you look at it in a different light it kind of makes sense.

A group of people praying, saying please grant this person better health, please heal him, over and over with much deeper sentiments and spiritual focus, all words being spoken through the mind.

I'm not saying weather it works or not, but really just saying what I believe prayer to actually be.

also, if a person could focus parts of the body that are actually doing the healing, well I would assume healing would either speed up or decrease.


Another ability would be to control the pain receptors, granting a human Invulnerability in terms of "feeling" the pain. humans would also have higher strength due to being able to lift heavier objects without the effects of pain. The muscles would be trained harder easier, and the more training done, the easier the previous load gets, and the more ready the muscles are for the new heavier load you will be attempting to train lifting.

controlling certain glands and organs, I mean there really is an infinite possibility but it's up to you weather you think they simply are just not possible, or may be possible.

...some of these glands also are spoken of to have "spiritual" nature...




Everyone has heard the story of how a woman saved her child when she was in such a panic over her child being trapped under a vehicle. A woman supposedly lifted the vehicle to save her child. Inhuman strength triggered by something.

I actually wanted to write a report on this in school, but I actually could not find anything on it...but when I ask people if they have ever heard the story, nearly everyone answered "yes". I'm still unsure if it was only a story, or if it really happened.



The only thoughts I have in terms of achieving these abilities...is that I believe we have a soul...and the soul wishes to evolve, to learn/grow, and to attach itself to the brain to create a link. I believe it is the only outside force which can turn into an internal force to bypass certain "security" points in the brain.


just a theory, but I believe humans may have been manipulated long ago, in all sorts of ways. Obviously lot's agree we are still being manipulated and lied to about certain things. These security codes may have been instilled upon us, so that we don't grow to strong or too smart in areas we have not pushed much focus in. Humans have already demonstrated their destructive force through technology alone, and it's ever growing for greater or worse.

Though I would think that creating a balance between spiritual growth and technological growth would be desired to create harmony in human beings...it's still unknown that if the soul really does in fact exist and can be honed and trained to do "special" things...it is either hit or miss on weather it be used for dangerous practices, or for the sake of growing as a race and individual person.

also has anyone ever heard of Dynamo Jack?

What do you think about this guy?


I watched the vids on him that I was able to find...they were really interesting...


He is a man who claims to be able to use chi

[if I'm wrong feel free to correct me, I researched him a while back]


He actually "treats" the ill through his practice and even tries to teach his practice tho virtually no one possesses the ability he demonstrates.


he channels energy in his body to create this sort of energy that feels "electric". You can even see that he is using some part of his body to channel this energy and produce these shocks.


a group of people came to actually test if this guy is for real, geared with equipment. So they told him to channel all his energy into this device that would then specify the level of the shocks. When this was done, the device did not reply to the energy at all. These people were dumbfounded, not understanding and already said this guy is a fake.

Then they tell the man to shock them, because they began to be in disbelief. So he shocks the crap out of them, they feel it, they know it's real, and the man tries to explain to them that it is chi, it can't be measured with such a device.


He demonstrates the destructive power of his ability as well. It's amazing...


weather you really want to check the guy out, if you believe it or not, it's still really interesting to find. Just search up Dynamo jack and see what you can find on him. Look for the video of him treating people, where it shows him channeling the energy and you see parts body physically pumping. You can't see the energy, but you know his body is doing something.

Hey, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

So would you say that an opinion is a "meaningful effect that is produced"? If so, what "way of measuring it" do we have?

Pi * thumb ?