Hey, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

So would you say that an opinion is a "meaningful effect that is produced"? If so, what "way of measuring it" do we have?

Does that not depend on the will of the person either way?

Or perhaps I should call it determination

I didn't read every single reply, but I just believe that there are certain "locks" set up in our own brains that don't allow us to use these abilities, or I should say "control" them.


The brain has input on everything a human does, most of what we simply do by impulse without thinking about what we're doing or what the "body" is doing as a background process to simply survive. Healing for example, the body is doing on it's own.


When someone is sick, people gather around, to pray. What they're really doing is trying to focus a sort of energy, to create a bigger energy, and act as a whole in hopes of effecting the ill person. They are all focusing their thoughts "prayers" on one single thing...if you look at it in a different light it kind of makes sense.

A group of people praying, saying please grant this person better health, please heal him, over and over with much deeper sentiments and spiritual focus, all words being spoken through the mind.

I'm not saying weather it works or not, but really just saying what I believe prayer to actually be.

also, if a person could focus parts of the body that are actually doing the healing, well I would assume healing would either speed up or decrease.


Another ability would be to control the pain receptors, granting a human Invulnerability in terms of "feeling" the pain. humans would also have higher strength due to being able to lift heavier objects without the effects of pain. The muscles would be trained harder easier, and the more training done, the easier the previous load gets, and the more ready the muscles are for the new heavier load you will be attempting to train lifting.

controlling certain glands and organs, I mean there really is an infinite possibility but it's up to you weather you think they simply are just not possible, or may be possible.

...some of these glands also are spoken of to have "spiritual" nature...




Everyone has heard the story of how a woman saved her child when she was in such a panic over her child being trapped under a vehicle. A woman supposedly lifted the vehicle to save her child. Inhuman strength triggered by something.

I actually wanted to write a report on this in school, but I actually could not find anything on it...but when I ask people if they have ever heard the story, nearly everyone answered "yes". I'm still unsure if it was only a story, or if it really happened.



The only thoughts I have in terms of achieving these abilities...is that I believe we have a soul...and the soul wishes to evolve, to learn/grow, and to attach itself to the brain to create a link. I believe it is the only outside force which can turn into an internal force to bypass certain "security" points in the brain.


just a theory, but I believe humans may have been manipulated long ago, in all sorts of ways. Obviously lot's agree we are still being manipulated and lied to about certain things. These security codes may have been instilled upon us, so that we don't grow to strong or too smart in areas we have not pushed much focus in. Humans have already demonstrated their destructive force through technology alone, and it's ever growing for greater or worse.

Though I would think that creating a balance between spiritual growth and technological growth would be desired to create harmony in human beings...it's still unknown that if the soul really does in fact exist and can be honed and trained to do "special" things...it is either hit or miss on weather it be used for dangerous practices, or for the sake of growing as a race and individual person.

Hey, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

So would you say that an opinion is a "meaningful effect that is produced"? If so, what "way of measuring it" do we have?

You said "Suppose someone wants you to prove that you can move an object using your body. However, they are holding on to it with their body and their body is much stronger than your body."

And I meant that we could measure the force differentials even if no movement occurred . . . . either your example is a bad one, or you did not understand what I meant when I replied to you.

Its ok sky, believe whatever you want. I still enjoy our conversations as I do with all of the intelligent people I tend to gravitate toward.

Yeah it looks like we got a little mixed up there.

Ditto my friend. I really do enjoy our conversations. You have probably forced me into looking at more things I never would have looked at otherwise, than just about anyone I've ever met.