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Topic: Wiccans
MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 08/25/08 11:04 AM
happy I like Wiccans. bigsmile They are cool.drinker They're just witches that can't do magicflowerforyou

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 08/25/08 11:05 AM
All Wiccans are witches but not all witches are Wiccan. Toad soup anyone? Freshly made.

Belushi's photo
Mon 08/25/08 11:12 AM
my neghbour across the road has an infestation of cockroaches, want me to save you some?

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 08/25/08 11:13 AM

my neghbour across the road has an infestation of cockroaches, want me to save you some?


Yes, please. Thank you.

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 08/25/08 12:18 PM
flowerforyou Wasnt Wicca started by a bunch of Scientologists in the 1950s?flowerforyou

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 08/25/08 12:20 PM
My little monkey. You can run, but you can't hide. I'm gonna catch you and when I do I'm gonna ravage you and you will like it.

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 08/25/08 12:31 PM

My little monkey. You can run, but you can't hide. I'm gonna catch you and when I do I'm gonna ravage you and you will like it.
blushing oooh lalalove

Krimsa's photo
Mon 08/25/08 07:16 PM
Ruth, here is some interesting information on the "Horned God" just so people can get a sense of the male counterpart in the Wiccan tradition.

Horned gods, with horns or antlers, appear in various cultures. The "Horned God" is a modern term for a syncretic god of late antiquity, the merging of Cernunnos, a horned god of the Celts, with the Greco-Roman Pan. This combination of gods produced a powerful deity, around which the pagani, those refusing to convert to Christianity, rallied. This deity provided the prototype for later Christian conceptions of the devil, and his worshippers were cast by the Church as witches. In Wicca, the Horned God and his counterpart the Triple Goddess are the main gods worshiped.

The "Horned God" is still worshipped by some modern Neopagans, particularly Wiccans, who have linked him with a wide variety of male nature gods from various mythologies, including the English Herne the Hunter, the Egyptian Ammon, the Hindu Pashupati and the Roman Faunus. All of these male deities are seen as having horns and an association with nature. A number of figures from British folklore, though normally depicted without horns, are nonetheless considered related: Puck, Robin Goodfellow and the Green Man.

The syncretic figure of a Horned God, central to a cult of witches, was first suggested by Jules Michelet in La Sorcière (1862); these ideas were expanded by Margaret Murray, in The Witch-cult in Western Europe (1921). Since then important aspects of Murray's thesis have been discredited, and the idea of a highly organised pagan underground resistance persisting into the early modern period is widely regarded as a fantasy. Despite widespread condemnation of her scholarship, certain intuitions of hers are now considered correct, and most witchcraft historians agree that beliefs and practices originating in paganism survived into the Early Modern Age, and that the conflict between these beliefs and Christianity helped precipitate the European witch-hunts.




Dragoness's photo
Mon 08/25/08 07:22 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Mon 08/25/08 07:22 PM
Well considering that the christian god is kinda evil too, that is the pot calling the kettle, don't ya think?

Anyone can make anyone else's religious belief appear evil if they want to. But you have to back it with force for people to really hear you and then if you follow that with severe violence they will really pay attention, et, witch hunts.

Dragoness's photo
Mon 08/25/08 07:26 PM
At least Wiccans, that which I have read, respect all beliefs. They claim no right to the belief world. They are non violent and non judgemental of others. They center on self-love, self-control, self-improvement, etc... and through this avenue they improve the world, by improving themselves.

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 08/25/08 07:34 PM

At least Wiccans, that which I have read, respect all beliefs. They claim no right to the belief world. They are non violent and non judgemental of others. They center on self-love, self-control, self-improvement, etc... and through this avenue they improve the world, by improving themselves.


That is the premise and most Pagans tend to be much more tolerant of other's beliefs. Witches and Wiccans do not claim that their way is the right way for anyone but themselves. However, just as in any group of people, you will find some Pagans who are on a major ego trip and are condescending and mean to others, particularly towards Christians.

btw, thanks for joining in the thread! flowerforyou

Krimsa's photo
Mon 08/25/08 07:44 PM
That’s very true. I think sometimes there can be an honest resentment between Wiccans and Christians and from a purely historical standpoint, it would appear quite justifiable. However, bottom line, that is not in keeping with what Wicca is all about. To pursue that course of intolerance would be matching a "wrong with a wrong" and not a good idea.

Dragoness's photo
Mon 08/25/08 07:45 PM


At least Wiccans, that which I have read, respect all beliefs. They claim no right to the belief world. They are non violent and non judgemental of others. They center on self-love, self-control, self-improvement, etc... and through this avenue they improve the world, by improving themselves.


That is the premise and most Pagans tend to be much more tolerant of other's beliefs. Witches and Wiccans do not claim that their way is the right way for anyone but themselves. However, just as in any group of people, you will find some Pagans who are on a major ego trip and are condescending and mean to others, particularly towards Christians.

btw, thanks for joining in the thread! flowerforyou


flowerforyou

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 08/25/08 08:05 PM

That’s very true. I think sometimes there can be an honest resentment between Wiccans and Christians and from a purely historical standpoint, it would appear quite justifiable. However, bottom line, that is not in keeping with what Wicca is all about. To pursue that course of intolerance would be matching a "wrong with a wrong" and not a good idea.


Exactly. And, there really isn't any group of people that have not been persecuted at some time or another throughout history. So, to be mad at anyone now for something that happened in the past is ridiculous.

Krimsa's photo
Mon 08/25/08 08:13 PM
Right and look at the Christians, torn to bits by lions! bad bad

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 08/25/08 08:30 PM
flowerforyou Which Wiccan tradition do you gals follow? flowerforyou

Wiccan Traditions

1.Eclectic and Solitary Wicca


There is also a movement of Eclectic or Solitary Wiccans who claim to belong to the religious movement, but do not believe any doctrine or traditional initiation is necessary in order to substantiate the claim.

So you or your partner might be a Wiccan RIGHT NOW and not even know it. If you suspect you are a Wiccan or might have contracted Wicca, please see Dr. Kevorkian to get tested, and be sure to be open with your partner.

(Please note that this should not be confused with Electric Wicca, or even Epileptic Wicca)


2.Gardenarian Tradition


Formed by the quintessential Wiccan, Mexican Gardener, this tradition emphasizes respect for the earth through lawnmower worship and erotic dungeons and dragons games. Many Wiccans shy away from this particular tradition, due to its strong preference for Elitist Esoteric Assholes who Actually Know what They're Talking About and Practice a Real Religion. Initiation is necessary, though can be overridden by sacrificing a magjickkkkkkk sprinkler to the gods and/or one's guardian feminazi.

The true origins of Gardenarian Wicca were that Gardener, on one of his 'flights of fancy' to the US, came across the system at a BQQ at his old pal L-Ron's house. It was, however, the notorious gangsta-rappa and gaylord Aleister Crowley who put the innocent and gullible Gardner up to the whole thing, as some sort of sick prank. The whole thing backfired when people actually fell for the whole preposterous scheme and Crowley is reported to have exclaimed in dismay "Shiat! I've created monsta y'all!".

This was originally started through the combined effort of L. Ron Hubbard, Ray Kroc and Bill Gates. They hoped to combine their occult powers to ensure that each home in Amerika (and eventually the world) would have at least one Wiccan. In order to do this they needed to make Wicca more easily digestible and able to be distributed to as wide an audience as possible but still with the great attention to service excellence as original Wicca. Following in the footsteps of the highly respected "Online Colleges" where one can buy your PhD, they started a Witch School where one could make your way through their ranks to become Queen of all Wiccans. All a future Wiccan wannabe needed to do was send them money and in return they would send you papers to fill your bookshelves at home with, cool badges to win friends and influence people with and a certificate with tasteful clipart pictures (drawn by L. Ron Hubbard himself) in case anyone tries to dispute your claim of being Queen of all Wiccans. All rituals, including self-initiations, take place online in chat rooms, probably by those same guys who hit on your 8-year-old sister through Yahoo Messenger.
The Native Americans had been practicing Wicca for millennia and it had been passed down to L. Ron Hubbard by his grandma (a Native American gypsy wench, who occasionally hit the crack-peace-pipe) but was an overly complicated system


3.British Traditional


This was started one fateful evening when the first episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer aired and was seen by some bored upper-class teenagers. This tradition is also known as "The Cult of Rupert Giles". An important part or these rituals involves forming a circle to drink Darjeeling and eat cucumber sandwiches.

4.Alexandrian Tradition


Only people with the name Alex, Alexandra, Aleq or Alexander may join these covens. Alexandrias, oddly, are banned from the tradition, and in fact are in danger of being skinned alive and eaten if they come within 100 yards of an Alexandrian coven.

5.Faery/Fairy Tradition


This a tradition where covens are made up of 8-year-old girls and gay males of varying ages.

6.Christian Wicca


Um... yeah... this one is pretty hard to explain. Apparently it involves cannibalism. One thing we do know is that it's bread from Christians who think that if they believe in something they don't believe in, which is what they think but not what they know, then they must still be Christians because they still believe, they just don't know what they believe. Then they'll go to hell, or some other really bad place. Because, you know, it's bad. So not knowing, but thinking of beliefs still makes it okay, because you know, otherwise, it's bad again. Ultimately, there can be only one.

7.Dianic Tradition


Ever since the tragic passing of Princess Goddess Diana, this tradition has come to total fruition. Believers of this tradition worship before an Altar of Diana, normally depicted in her striking 80's-big-hair form. They also operate an underground network of operatives as they currently believe that either the Gardenarians or Alexandrians might have been behind the plot to kill their deity... either them or it was just those annoying, smelly, jealous French froggies! They are also known to have called a Jihad on the house of Windsor, thereby claiming their title as Wicca's most extremist and fundamentalist tradition!






Ruth34611's photo
Mon 08/25/08 08:34 PM
Definitley British Traditional. LOVE Buffy and Giles!

rofl

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 08/25/08 08:35 PM

Definitley British Traditional. LOVE Buffy and Giles!

rofl
flowerforyou Your adorableflowerforyou

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 08/25/08 08:37 PM


Definitley British Traditional. LOVE Buffy and Giles!

rofl
flowerforyou Your adorableflowerforyou


No, you are. smooched

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 08/25/08 09:08 PM



Definitley British Traditional. LOVE Buffy and Giles!

rofl
flowerforyou Your adorableflowerforyou


No, you are. smooched
blushing And your gorgous flowerforyou

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