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Topic: Wiccans - part 2
Abracadabra's photo
Fri 11/21/08 07:24 PM
The Christopher Penczak CDs

Just as an update, I had purchased the following 3 of Penczak's books and the accompanying meditation CDs.


1. The Inner Temple of Witchcraft
2. The Outer Temple of Witchcraft
3. The Temple of Shamanic Witchcraft

He actually has several more books along these lines, but I think it's going to take me a year to get through these three. Which is precisely what I had expected.

I've been listening to the meditation CD's whilst doing dishes. laugh

I'm really impressed with what Penczak did with these. There are a few little things he does that bug me personally, but overall, they are pretty interesting.

For me, they are worth it just for the examples. I'm sure owl be making my own meditation CDs as I progress.

I was listening to the Shaman CDs tonight. These are mostly 'drum trips' with a 'rattle trip' and a 'singing bowl trip'. Along with some other interesting stuff.

I guess the singing bowl is used on a spinning table like what a bowl maker would use to make clay bowls. It's a constant ring rather than a series of dings. I tought it might be more like chromatic drumming.

In any case, these shaman trips sound like fun, he verbally set you up for the trip, and then just let's you go for about 15 minutes of hand drumming. Owl be looking forward to reading that book and doing those exercises.

I'm really just kind of getting an overview of these materials right now before I dive into the actual meditations.

I'm thinking about doing a cello meditation live. Like just playing one or two notes back and forth. Over and over again. Or doing my own hand drumming meditation since I have hand drums too.

This is all quite interesting.

Ruth, You said you have some Penczak books? Which one(s) do you have and do you have the CDs that go with it?

I'm just wondering what you thought of the actual meditations.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/21/08 07:27 PM
The Shaman one has drumming on it?!?!?!?! You mean like you listen to drumming or the singing bowl for 15 minutes? I have been looking for a cd like that! :banana:

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/21/08 07:28 PM
I only currently have the Inner Temple with cd and I enjoyed the meditations when I did them a couple of years ago. It would probably do me good to go through them again. I read the book The Outer Temple, but do not have the cd.

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Fri 11/21/08 07:31 PM

Wow. Those are some intense photos. Fire is really scary up close like that. I'm glad you are okay. May the deceased rest in peace.


Thanks.

That was an awful lot of excitement for this small town ~~where I always say nothing ever happens here and we like it that way.bigsmile waving

huh :cry: I guess I was wrong this time.


Abracadabra's photo
Fri 11/21/08 08:54 PM

The Shaman one has drumming on it?!?!?!?! You mean like you listen to drumming or the singing bowl for 15 minutes? I have been looking for a cd like that! :banana:


I haven't listened to all of these in their entirety, but I did sample them all and I listened to the first one the whole way though whilst I washed dishes.

The first one is just a single drum being hit over and over again like water dripping from a faucet. If you aren't actually meditating to it, it can seem like Chinese water torture. laugh

It does have a nice deep drum tone to it though.

The singing bowl is a constant ring, almost like someone is sliding their fingernail along the side of the bowl whilst it spins. It could drive you crazy with that image in mind. laugh

I thought it might be more like dings, but it's a constant ring. Like metal on metal.

But again, I guess when in the actual meditation mode it might be an interesting experience.

Here's what's on the Shaman CDs.

Be careful where you buy these! They are $19 at Amazon, and $26 at Barnes and Noble!

The 4 CDs contain:

1) Drum and Crystal Bowl journeys
drum 15 minutes
singing bowl 15 minutes

2.) Mutiple and Solo Drum journeys
mutiple drum 15 minutes
solo drum 15 minutes

3.) Rattle and Drum journeys
15 minutes Rattle
15 mintues drum

4.) Healing Meditation
a. Emotional Body Training 5 minutes
b. Tree Breathing 20 minutes
c. Plant Spirit Communication 15 minutes
d. Healing Past-life regression 26 minutes.

I haven't listened to all of these, but the drums are quite different from the CDs that came with the Inner Temple and the Outer Temple.

These typically 15 minute meditation journeys with no talking by Penczak.

He gets it all set up, and takes you to the tree and helps you find your passage, but then the journey is entirely up to you.

He calls you back at the end by changing the drum beat for about 4 minutes before finally speaking to help you find your way back out of the tree and back out of your mind's eye.

I'm looking forward to taking these journeys but I've got a long way to go before I get to these.

I haven't even taken my first Inner Temple journey yet. And some of those were really interesting.

I know that I'm going to get into making some of my own journey CDs.

In fact, in the case of the drums I may just take a live drumming journey on my own. In fact I'm sure I will. I'm looking forward to taking a cello journey too. bigsmile

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/21/08 09:53 PM
Thanks for that information. Drumming, even a constant beat, is very helpful for me for meditation and spell work.

Krimsa's photo
Sat 11/22/08 05:05 AM
d. Healing Past-life regression 26 minutes.


Whats that exactly? huh

Ruth34611's photo
Sat 11/22/08 06:08 AM

d. Healing Past-life regression 26 minutes.


Whats that exactly? huh



That's where you go into a hypnotic state and remember your past lives. You deal with trauma that may have happened there to help you with life now. If you have a phobia of something.....for example, water. An unexplained, overwhelming fear of water might be explained by something that happened to you in a past life. So, you are regressed back to the point of trauma where you can understand what happened and deal with it.

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Sat 11/22/08 06:10 AM


d. Healing Past-life regression 26 minutes.


Whats that exactly? huh



That's where you go into a hypnotic state and remember your past lives. You deal with trauma that may have happened there to help you with life now. If you have a phobia of something.....for example, water. An unexplained, overwhelming fear of water might be explained by something that happened to you in a past life. So, you are regressed back to the point of trauma where you can understand what happened and deal with it.


Thank you,

I was wondering that myself, but was too chicken to askembarassed

Ruth34611's photo
Sat 11/22/08 06:26 AM


I was wondering that myself, but was too chicken to askembarassed


Hey, I ask questions all the time. It's how we learn. flowerforyou

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Sat 11/22/08 09:54 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 11/22/08 09:56 AM


d. Healing Past-life regression 26 minutes.


Whats that exactly? huh



That's where you go into a hypnotic state and remember your past lives. You deal with trauma that may have happened there to help you with life now. If you have a phobia of something.....for example, water. An unexplained, overwhelming fear of water might be explained by something that happened to you in a past life. So, you are regressed back to the point of trauma where you can understand what happened and deal with it.


Like when I was executed with a guillotine. My past life regression was self administered by having a dream. My unusual fear of guillotines was then understood. I used to get a weird feeling in the pit of my stomach every time I saw a picture of one or a movie with one in it. That does not happen any more.

I'm still afraid of trains though.... laugh I took a train trip from Colorado to Boston in hope that my fear would go away. Before I got to Boston there was a train wreck on the tracks ahead of us and the last leg of the trip was by bus. But my fear of trains is not about riding on one, but about being hit by one. Going over train tracks still makes me nervous. Its not that big of a phobia like the guillotine, which makes me wonder if it not a premonition of my future death. scared tongue2 waving


Abracadabra's photo
Sat 11/22/08 10:20 AM

d. Healing Past-life regression 26 minutes.


Whats that exactly?


I was wondering that myself, but was too chicken to askembarassed


See. You need to do a past-life regression journey to go back and see why you are too chicken to ask questions. laugh

Maybe you'll travel back in time in your mind and find yourself standing next to a fruit tree thinking to yourself, "Hmmm? I wonder what this forbidden fruit tastes like?" then you reach out and pluck the fruit from the tree and eat it and then all hell breaks loose.

So now, your too chicken to ask any more questions. laugh

Krimsa's photo
Sat 11/22/08 11:15 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Sat 11/22/08 11:18 AM


"Adam, Eve, and the (female) Serpent (Often identified as Lilith.) at the entrance to Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. Medieval Christian art often depicted the Edenic Serpent as a woman, thus both emphasizing the Serpent's seductiveness as well as its relationship to Eve. Several early Church Fathers, including Clement of Alexandria and Eusebius of Caesarea, interpreted the Hebrew "Heva" as not only the name of Eve, but in its aspirated form as "female serpent."

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Sat 11/22/08 11:29 AM


d. Healing Past-life regression 26 minutes.


Whats that exactly?


I was wondering that myself, but was too chicken to askembarassed


See. You need to do a past-life regression journey to go back and see why you are too chicken to ask questions. laugh

Maybe you'll travel back in time in your mind and find yourself standing next to a fruit tree thinking to yourself, "Hmmm? I wonder what this forbidden fruit tastes like?" then you reach out and pluck the fruit from the tree and eat it and then all hell breaks loose.

So now, your too chicken to ask any more questions. laugh



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Abracadabra's photo
Sat 11/22/08 12:23 PM

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I was just teasing. flowers

There there now,...

((( :heart: Andrea :heart: )))

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Sat 11/22/08 01:04 PM
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Thank you, I was getting really worried here

(:heart: James :heart: )

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Sat 11/22/08 02:29 PM



"Adam, Eve, and the (female) Serpent (Often identified as Lilith.) at the entrance to Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. Medieval Christian art often depicted the Edenic Serpent as a woman, thus both emphasizing the Serpent's seductiveness as well as its relationship to Eve. Several early Church Fathers, including Clement of Alexandria and Eusebius of Caesarea, interpreted the Hebrew "Heva" as not only the name of Eve, but in its aspirated form as "female serpent."


Why is there pornograhy in my thread? laugh :wink:

Ruth34611's photo
Sat 11/22/08 02:31 PM

Its not that big of a phobia like the guillotine, which makes me wonder if it not a premonition of my future death. scared tongue2 waving




Well, if you end up dying by being hit by a train, your premonition is well documented here. laugh

Krimsa's photo
Sat 11/22/08 02:33 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Sat 11/22/08 02:34 PM
It seems like getting hit by a train would be a rather easy way to go if only because it would be so fast. I guess it might just cut your legs off but you are more likely to be killed instantly.

It beats getting attacked by sharks or something.

Ruth34611's photo
Sat 11/22/08 02:38 PM

It seems like getting hit by a train would be a rather easy way to go if only because it would be so fast. I guess it might just cut your legs off but you are more likely to be killed instantly.

It beats getting attacked by sharks or something.


I agree completely. I think a train would be a good way to go. I wouldn't like drowning or burning to death at all.

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