"Bushidobillybush" ...how can time slow down unless one is aware that it is slowing down ..are blackholes aware

blackholes and other happenstances that take place in the universe doesn't require awareness to take place but does require awareness to use the concept of time to know that it takes place

"Krimsa" you are in fact explaining the theory of relativity in relation to time

as said in the movie "Deep Blue Sea" place your hand on a hot skillet and one minute can seem like eight hours but place your hands on a hot woman and eight hours can seem like one minute

Infinity is in the present moment. There is no time. The perception is a perception of a process or event (or thought or vibration). It is not a perception of a thing called "time."



It is probably the other way around. Creation (which is really manifestation) is a process. The perception of that process (within a given unified field surrounding the primary observer) gives the illusion of time passing, but in reality it is just a process being observed. This process is any vibration or movement or thought or event.

The observer decides what is "real."

So I cannot dispute what you believe is real.

But I don't see how you can claim that time is "concrete."

Time is simply the observation of an event that involves movement. In a spacetime environment (such as this one we share) time is observed in accordance to the movement of bodies through space and it is "measured" by those events.

It seems somewhat reliable and stable to us, ~ but is it really all that stable? How many times have we changed our calendar? What if the bodies in space begin to move differently? Can time as we know it in this reality change?

In addition to our agreed upon idea of time that we share, each person has a unified field around them that has its own spacetime environment.

"JennieBean"..manifestation illusion vibration event ...every concept you just used cannot take place without being aware and under the jurisdiction of the concept of "time" ..

infinity is just a concept of time use to measure the possible vastness of a reality but not that the reality is without end

but I would be interested in reading how you can explain how you know that something is vibrating without the perception of time ..doesn't it takes "time" to vibrate back and forth

Without the vibration, there is no process or event to observe. Without movement there is no spacetime.

Things are not under the jurisdiction of "time" because "time" does not exist as a "thing" to have jurisdiction over anything.

Try to wrap you mind around this:


Infinity is not a concept of "time."

Infinity is Here Now.

Infinity is ground zero of all existence.

Infinity the state of being infinite.

"being infinite."

"To be" means "to exist."

Infinity is infinite "beingness."

Infinity is infinite existence.

Infinity is that which is exists.

Infinity is the primary observer Itself.

Infinity is the infinite observer.

Infinity is existence and it is conscious.

Infinity is the center of all things.

"JennieBean" you keep forgetting to explain what cause the vibration ..is the vibration aware?

Last I checked the "holy vibration" manifested itself in the form of a 1.5 volt card that I could plug into a jackrabbit. Well thats one form of heavenly vibration. I suppose there "might" be others that are far less necessary. I know Im aware of that vibration but whether or not the vibration is aware its vibrating me, Im clueless and it really doesnt matter all that much.

I have never known time to stop and it was here before me and will be after me. So when did time start? and I AM that I Am is where we get the hebrew letters YHWH which sounds as Yahweh. it means Self Existant one. Never needed anyone. the same as Time.. Shalom..Miles

wow I bet that rabbit ran down the hole

"Milesoftheusa" ...when a baby is first born is it 6 billion years and 6 seconds old ...or is it 6 seconds old

the baby has no comprehension of how old it is until it becomes aware of it ..but yet there were existence before the baby became aware ...the same with Yahweh which means once Yahweh became aware he cease being eternal..his existence started at the point of his awareness

Funch time is more then perception of events, its the interval between those events as it relates to two frames of reference . . . and the difference or lack of difference between them would make for the amount of slowing of time . . . consciousness is not needed.

Have you ever heard of a muon? Im guessing not, or perhaps heard and didn't get it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muon

These things are unstable and decay rather fast (this is an amazing understatement.)

When we zip them around at near light speed, they live longer from our frame of reference, but from their frame of reference . . . time has not slowed . . .

I know . . . it hurts like brain freeze . . . I love the expression on peoples faces when I tell them this.

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Perception of time and time are different. Just like perception of heat and heat are different things . . . sigh.

I think maybe I picked a subject of study that people either get or don't. I don't know . . .


see here you talk about the passage of events one after the other (time) outside of the context of this baby's perception and your ok with that, but no there couldn't be a thing called time outside of perception . . . .

sigh

"Bushidobillyclub" perception outside of time negates itself ..because you have to be aware to perceive

You figure it out.

how rude

without beginning or end; lasting forever; always existing opposed to temporal eternal life. perpetual; ceaseless; endless: THE ETERNAL = GOD

That they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory. --2 Tim. ii. 10.


eternal quarreling = funches
eternal principles = Tribo-Meister
eternal change and /or not subject to change = Abra
eternal forever true = JB
eternal truths" = Creative Soul
"eternal endless debates" = Krimsa

I would of done more....but hey......

How is that rude?

Hey I'm tired of figuring everything out for you people who only ask one question after another.

It is high time you started figuring things out for your own self.

My brain hurts.

And as I have told you before, the only thing I know for certain, is that I exist.

Everything else is just opinion.

Everything else... just opinion.

you forgot
eternal bible thumping = Pharoahcatlady

Well I can tell we are all very well acquainted with each other.

"JennieBean" "what caused the vibration" appears to be the end of your infinity ..