please stop getting so defensive... traveling into America will not tell you how things are in day-to-day life here across the country from state to state. There are issues that you could not possibly see or know unless you live here. There are also things that local-suburbanites don't know even living here in America becasue they are not immediately impacted by things that go on in our inner cities. I could go on about this, but I don't feel there is any need to drag it out.

You maye have not directly called me a rasicts, but you did make the following comment to insinuate that I am after my stating that there are people who simply will not vote for Obama becasue of the color of his skin: "actually, it's YOU who keeps referring to the colour of his skin and making it an issue "

because YOU say so.

umm you DID say that anyone that didn't vote for Obama was a racist

I'm inclined to think that anyone who votes for him because he is black is also a racist

yes I do

but of course free speech only applies to people who agree with you, right?

No I didn't, dear - YOU did. I said that there ARE people who will NOT vote for him BECAUSE he is Black, even as die-hard democrats.

anyone who votes for him BECAUSE he's black is an idiot and should not have the right to vote.

he deserves a vote for being QUALIFIED.

McCain's qualifications have expired.

Oh - and as info...
I'm not a Democrat.

defensive? why do YOU keep assumings things?

you carry on about others assuming stuff about you, and then turn around and do the exact same thing. just for the record, i'm not getting defensive at all.

my comment is that it isn't, or shouldn't be, about the colour (or lack of colour) of a person's skin as to whether or not they are elected.

i think that if a person votes for a person based ONLY on the colour of their skin, and no other considerations, then i would label them racist.

if someone tells me that if i don't vote for someone who is of a different colour than me, then i am automatically a racist.

i say bullsh!t to that.

also, please don't talk to me about my not understanding issues of race. as someone who sat on a race relations committee, a bias in the schools committee, and worked very closely with the race relations and multicultural coordinator at the largest school board in canada, i can say that i know a thing or two.

you can say anything you want - free speech is welcomed, I thought that was already clear - ? Where did I ever say you were not entitled to your opinion or voicing such? The only one here getting all huffy and stating something so silly like "how dare you say...?" was your Canadian friend...

I love freedom of speech, and I love a good political bout. What do you thin I came to this forum for anyway...?!? To talk about dating?

seems like so you could put down everyone who doesnt agree with your vision for America

there was also this quote of yours:



meaning if people do not vote for him they must be racist.

or did it mean something else?

I think it will be the other way around!


If Obama is to bring peace to the World, Fix our Nation, and change the way the World looks at us, then why would the World need to test him as Biden says?

um... that was your post: "so you're saying that anyone who doesn't suport Obama is a racist? THAT sounds pretty racist to me"

Ok - here's to correcting my bad grammar, and clearing up my lack of realizing you were not taking what you were responding to for what it was:
Many white people (meaning a good majority of white America), who do not consider themselves racists, (so as far as they are concerned, they have nothing against voting for a black man becasue they do not see color lines) seem to think that this is smaller than it is. (meaning the racial factor in the election)

ohhhhhh so freedom of speech only applies to American?

it would all be good if you just didn't have to be so condescending and subtly nasty to anyone who doesn't agree with you

anyway

I've lost interest in this. if some one wants to actually discuss something I'll come back

if they only want to browbeat everyone to believe as them then its boring

Now you are just pulling pieces apart from the picture. You clearly have no concept of how much the color of his skin impacts whether or not he gets into the Oval Office.

What I said - is what I meant. I stated a fact. There was no hidden meaning. RACE is a huge factor in this election. PERIOD. It just is. It is unfortunate, but TRUE. MEANING THAT: Obmama IS qualified to be president. He has a HUGE following. There are people (white democrats) that will NOT vote for him BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN. And no, of course not everyone who doesn't vote for him is a racist. Some of them are just republicans that will not bend any of their traditional conservative "political ethics" (for lack of a better word). But there are people who's votes will be racially driven against him DESPITE that they agree what he stands for becase they cannot accept the concept of a black man being the President of our country. IT IS A FACT!!! He is qualified, and should win - at this point in time, the only thing he has truly going against him is the color of his skin.

I have an answer for everything.

I am referring to her comments about what she knows in relation to where SHE lives... I could not care less. So I'd rather her not continue on with the "but I am this and I am that..." its just her being on the defense for my bringing to light the fatc that she is not living and voting in America, and doesn't know enough about day-to-day American life to justify any possible knowledge about racial issues in our country.

Didn't Biden say it will be a test for both McCain and Obama on the link you gave showing Biden's interview?