Topic: who will move to Canada?
papersmile's photo
Sun 10/26/08 11:03 AM

now isnt that a lot prettier?


well your half certainly looks good love

thekre8tv1's photo
Sun 10/26/08 11:03 AM

"fanatic" - ME!? lol! Not so much. But its rather apparent you are quite judgmental, I see. Very interesting - that speaks volumes about your character.


hahaha yet another person who thinks every general comment applies to them.

yeah I AM very judgmental. stupid people really piss me off


considering your post was in regard to those of us folks ready to go if "our guy" doesn't win - - and I had just made my "statement" as to how I was one of them - your "general reply" WAS a reply to mine and anyone else who answered the thread with a "yep, I'm outta here" response... this isn't a play on narcissism.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sun 10/26/08 11:04 AM


I encourage every disgruntled person to move out of the country if their candidate doesn't win. We'll be better off with fewer fanatics


"disgruntled" - nah.... that won't be the case. Disgusted, fed up....completely repulsed by the lack of willingness to move forward towards positive changes in Amerca without racial bias.
You say "potato"....

"fanatic" - ME!? lol! Not so much. But its rather apparent you are quite judgmental, I see. Very interesting - that speaks volumes about your character.

Obama is QUALIFIED to be President of the United States - period. Unfortunately there ARE racial stigmas still living in the US and this makes his qualifications muted by the color of his skin. If Barack Obama does not win the election, sadly - it will be because of racism, not his qualifications. This is a fact. A very ugly one, but albeit true. Barack Obama is not only a great candidate, but the iconic face of chance in American's belief in "the American Dream". Just getting the nomination has already boosted morale of the children that have been living in poverty and single parent homes with very little hope to live their dreams when they see their families and neighborhoods falling down around them. Barack is a man of people, and a man of hard work... he is proof that in America you truly CAN be anything you want to be if you persevere and don't let fear stand in your way. We need him in the Oval Office for many reasons, but for me, I think his critical need is for our youth. Especially our young men in urban environments watching their dreams crash down around them every day. As President Barack will rightfully be a key member of the most Historical Black Americans in history. He is exactly the sort of role model our young people need. Especially the children in our inner cities who haven't a positive male role model to live up to.

If he does NOT win - then my faith in Americans as a people who stand together and not divided by color drops. Justifiably so. The idea of another 4 years of republican "conventionalism" (tongue-in-cheek) disturbs me immensely. We need BIG change in this country, and in order for that to happen - it has to be done by something monumentally different. I am not even talking about things like socialized medicine. I am talking about people changing PEOPLE!!!! If the tables were turned, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are? This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative characteristics in another when there is a color difference. I'm sorry folks, but John McCain is an ornery, trigger-happy old fool who is past due for retirement... sure, he has done good things and bad things, just like the majority of politicians... but if he were the black man in 'the race' you "die-hard republicans" would not be so quick to jump on his ticket!

and for the comment made about "people not helping themselves" - yeah, riiiiggghhhht!!!!???? You can leave ME outta that little 'peck'. That is all I do is help and take care of 'mine'... writing letters to my Senator on a weekly basis... taking care of my kids and working my ass off day by day... making enough money to NOT qualify for any "gov't help" but not enough to afford my OWN prescriptions.

P.S. Anyone who is IGNORANT enough to believe that Barack Obama is not an American citizen should not even have the right to vote.

I hear you but my feeling is changing the Congressional dynamic will be the way to effect change though I will be voting for Obama.People think because you are poor your a slacking drag on society.I work,e-mail my representatives /congressperson when ever issues come up I care about it.There are many working poor in America people and we are the norm,not the exception.

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Sun 10/26/08 11:05 AM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Sun 10/26/08 11:05 AM
anyone wanting to leave the country because "their guy" doesn't win IS a fanatic

it's just an election not the apocalypse



cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sun 10/26/08 11:08 AM


"fanatic" - ME!? lol! Not so much. But its rather apparent you are quite judgmental, I see. Very interesting - that speaks volumes about your character.


hahaha yet another person who thinks every general comment applies to them.

yeah I AM very judgmental. stupid people really piss me off


considering your post was in regard to those of us folks ready to go if "our guy" doesn't win - - and I had just made my "statement" as to how I was one of them - your "general reply" WAS a reply to mine and anyone else who answered the thread with a "yep, I'm outta here" response... this isn't a play on narcissism.

People like you is what we need in America.Dissent is what this country is based on and what will bring our government back to "for and of the people".Moving to Canada will not bring about change,it will just make the lines shorter at the supermarket.

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Sun 10/26/08 11:11 AM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Sun 10/26/08 11:11 AM
90% of the people in this country are middle of the road moderate

a little liberal here and a little conservative there

then there are the 5% of liberals who ARE fanatics

and 5% of the conservatives who ARE fanatics

and those 10% make so much noise that you would think this country is on the verge of civil war

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sun 10/26/08 11:16 AM
thats very true quiet

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Sun 10/26/08 11:18 AM
I'm neither liberal or conservative

not Republican or Democrat

I just have no patience for bullsh*t

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sun 10/26/08 11:19 AM

I'm neither liberal or conservative

not Republican or Democrat

I just have no patience for bullsh*t


who even has time for it?not me.

thekre8tv1's photo
Sun 10/26/08 11:23 AM
too simple of an assumption.

...it's far more coplicated than that. Not simply wanting to leave because "my guy" doesn't win (this was simply a figure of speech) is not the reason - it is because of what the winning of that nominee represents. If he does not win, it is because of the DIVIDE in America. It is because of being fed up. It is becasue of the fact that him not making it to the oval office is truthfully a factor in taking steps backwards and not forwards in America.

Fanatics are people who can't have an original thought. As well, are not open to change as they are so devoured by a closed mind. My mind is open to change and searches for answers. I have more "original thoughts" than I even care to discuss. As a creative person, this comes naturally. Fanatics are cult-like people who have programmed opinions that are nothing more than bites off of their "masters" expression. One thing liberals are surely not is "fanatics" in regard to politicians. Maybe "fanatical" when it comes to standing up against "the opposition" as we will do some wild things to make a point. Dreams and hope drive the liberals to steps toward change. My dreams are of HOPE and CHANGE. If Barack doesn't win, its a negative notch in the "belt of change".

Maybe you've just chosen the wrong word.

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Sun 10/26/08 11:26 AM

too simple of an assumption.

...it's far more coplicated than that. Not simply wanting to leave because "my guy" doesn't win (this was simply a figure of speech) is not the reason - it is because of what the winning of that nominee represents. If he does not win, it is because of the DIVIDE in America. It is because of being fed up. It is becasue of the fact that him not making it to the oval office is truthfully a factor in taking steps backwards and not forwards in America.

Fanatics are people who can't have an original thought. As well, are not open to change as they are so devoured by a closed mind. My mind is open to change and searches for answers. I have more "original thoughts" than I even care to discuss. As a creative person, this comes naturally. Fanatics are cult-like people who have programmed opinions that are nothing more than bites off of their "masters" expression. One thing liberals are surely not is "fanatics" in regard to politicians. Maybe "fanatical" when it comes to standing up against "the opposition" as we will do some wild things to make a point. Dreams and hope drive the liberals to steps toward change. My dreams are of HOPE and CHANGE. If Barack doesn't win, its a negative notch in the "belt of change".

Maybe you've just chosen the wrong word.


a fanatic believes his/her way is the only way and won't accept anything else. I think I would definitely put you in that 5%

if Obama doesn't win it's just another election not the end of the world. The other 90% of us will get on just fine and you 10 percenters can wail all you want

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Sun 10/26/08 11:32 AM


I'm sure Canada is much too conservative for you
seriously? they have universal health care that hardly sounds "conservative" to me. If they were conservative they would let the poor die in the gutter like we do.


Madisonman, take it from someone who has tried universal health care (Called the military) It doesn't run as smoothly as everyone thinks it does. When I lived in Germany, on a military base, with military health coverage and the "universal health care" style system, it took us two months after making the initial appointment to see a doctor. Even longer just to get an ultra sound and for my tonsils to be removed. Yeah, there is health care for everyone, so to say, but the doctors work very little.

I am not saying our system is any better, because there are a lot of downfalls, but seriously...If you are going to base all of your opinions off of the movie "Sicko", just don't say anything. Weigh both systems and then come back and tell us which system is the lesser of two evils...but think of this...more often than not, on the Universal health care system, people die in the emergency room waiting for the doctors to get off of break, or because the hospital is under funded, or because the doctors decided that since they weren't getting paid fairly, they went golfing.

thekre8tv1's photo
Sun 10/26/08 11:33 AM


too simple of an assumption.

...it's far more coplicated than that. Not simply wanting to leave because "my guy" doesn't win (this was simply a figure of speech) is not the reason - it is because of what the winning of that nominee represents. If he does not win, it is because of the DIVIDE in America. It is because of being fed up. It is becasue of the fact that him not making it to the oval office is truthfully a factor in taking steps backwards and not forwards in America.

Fanatics are people who can't have an original thought. As well, are not open to change as they are so devoured by a closed mind. My mind is open to change and searches for answers. I have more "original thoughts" than I even care to discuss. As a creative person, this comes naturally. Fanatics are cult-like people who have programmed opinions that are nothing more than bites off of their "masters" expression. One thing liberals are surely not is "fanatics" in regard to politicians. Maybe "fanatical" when it comes to standing up against "the opposition" as we will do some wild things to make a point. Dreams and hope drive the liberals to steps toward change. My dreams are of HOPE and CHANGE. If Barack doesn't win, its a negative notch in the "belt of change".

Maybe you've just chosen the wrong word.


a fanatic believes his/her way is the only way and won't accept anything else. I think I would definitely put you in that 5%

if Obama doesn't win it's just another election not the end of the world. The other 90% of us will get on just fine and you 10 percenters can wail all you want


There ya' go judging again! You don't know enough about me to logically justify such. But, you can put me in any category you wish. You're entitled to your opinion. I can say that at 40 years old, and a life filled with many ups and downs, changes and stagnations alike. In the face of adversity I am not so simple-minded to beleive "my way" is the only way.

I wish that you were right that this was "just another election". Maybe your world is a little too white?

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Sun 10/26/08 11:35 AM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Sun 10/26/08 11:36 AM
I wish that you were right that this was "just another election". Maybe your world is a little too white?


hahahahahaha and anyone who disagrees with you has to be belittled and insulted? THAT is another trademark of the fanatic




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Sun 10/26/08 11:36 AM
you must also bring us chocolate to bribe us........:tongue:

Winx's photo
Sun 10/26/08 11:40 AM

too simple of an assumption.

...it's far more coplicated than that. Not simply wanting to leave because "my guy" doesn't win (this was simply a figure of speech) is not the reason - it is because of what the winning of that nominee represents. If he does not win, it is because of the DIVIDE in America. It is because of being fed up. It is becasue of the fact that him not making it to the oval office is truthfully a factor in taking steps backwards and not forwards in America.

Fanatics are people who can't have an original thought. As well, are not open to change as they are so devoured by a closed mind. My mind is open to change and searches for answers. I have more "original thoughts" than I even care to discuss. As a creative person, this comes naturally. Fanatics are cult-like people who have programmed opinions that are nothing more than bites off of their "masters" expression. One thing liberals are surely not is "fanatics" in regard to politicians. Maybe "fanatical" when it comes to standing up against "the opposition" as we will do some wild things to make a point. Dreams and hope drive the liberals to steps toward change. My dreams are of HOPE and CHANGE. If Barack doesn't win, its a negative notch in the "belt of change".

Maybe you've just chosen the wrong word.


I think it will be a terrible day for the U.S. if McCain/Palin win.

Winx's photo
Sun 10/26/08 11:41 AM



I'm sure Canada is much too conservative for you
seriously? they have universal health care that hardly sounds "conservative" to me. If they were conservative they would let the poor die in the gutter like we do.


Madisonman, take it from someone who has tried universal health care (Called the military) It doesn't run as smoothly as everyone thinks it does. When I lived in Germany, on a military base, with military health coverage and the "universal health care" style system, it took us two months after making the initial appointment to see a doctor. Even longer just to get an ultra sound and for my tonsils to be removed. Yeah, there is health care for everyone, so to say, but the doctors work very little.

I am not saying our system is any better, because there are a lot of downfalls, but seriously...If you are going to base all of your opinions off of the movie "Sicko", just don't say anything. Weigh both systems and then come back and tell us which system is the lesser of two evils...but think of this...more often than not, on the Universal health care system, people die in the emergency room waiting for the doctors to get off of break, or because the hospital is under funded, or because the doctors decided that since they weren't getting paid fairly, they went golfing.


I would like to add that Obama is not endorsing universal health care. He's providing a way for the uninsured working middle class to obtain insurance.

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Sun 10/26/08 11:42 AM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Sun 10/26/08 11:42 AM
I don't think so

life will go on

If McCain wins (and it dont look like it) he'll face a Democrat majority Congress prolly with a filibuster proof majority and he won't be able to get a single thing done



Winx's photo
Sun 10/26/08 11:43 AM

I don't think so

life will go on

If McCain wins (and it dont look like it) he'll face a Democrat majority Congress prolly with a filibuster proof majority and he won't be able to a single thing done


Yes, life would go on. But..it would be rough for many people.

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Sun 10/26/08 11:44 AM
LOL! wtf?!? :P ~ "belittled" and "insulted" - um... didn't know I was insulting you, and certainly not belittling anyone.

You have "labeled" me as a fanatic - which is insulting to ME.

Did I somehow strike a nerve? I was simply asking a question... where you live and where I live consist of very different surroundings. Unfortunately you are not alone. Thus there even being a problem here as to why you think this election is "just another election". Many white people who do not consider themesleves racists seem to think that this is smaller than it is. It is not the media that makes this election so huge, it is bigger than the media can make it. And, although I do not like to just assume things about someone I do not know, you have already made assumptions about me so you turned on the switch already.