Religions don't teach anything.

Religions are nothing more than manmade myths and doctines.

It is men who teach from these doctines and myths using their own personal interpretations and perceptions.

Religions don't teach anything.

Men are the one's who make all the claims.

And some men do claim that all that is required to get into heaven is to accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior. To love Christ is all that's necessary. Period.

You have fallen into the trap that has caught the souls of so many men Spider. You think that you have divine truth. But your version of religion is just that - your version.

In fact, we've already seen on these very forums whether other religious men do not agree with your version.

So to ask what 'religion' teaches that is the wrong question.

What you really need to be asking is which Paper Pope is preaching that.

And they you can claim to disagree with that particular Paper Pope.

There is no absolute 'word of God'.

That's the biggest farce mankind has ever claimed. Even the religions that have claimed it vehemently have fallen into so many different demominations that it has truly become a comedy show.

The religious sitcom called "Christiantity".

What a hilarious joke.

It's just a collection of opinionated Paper Popes who can't even agree with each other.

They blew it when they rebelled against the original body of Christ in Catholicism.

They are eternal heathens to true Christianity. Only the real Pope can speak for God, all the other self-appointed Paper Popes are just egotists who enjoy shoving their own personal opinions down the throats of others whilst they pretend to speak for God.

It's just blaspheme gone wild.

I would never ask for or allow anyone to worship me.
I would never claim to be perfect if we were not all perfect.

I am that I am.

You are perfect
Worship yourself.

JB

Heaven and Hell do exist because we created them and they truly exist in the Universal mind worlds. Some people have been there and back. (Soul travelers like Robert Monroe and other prophets)

The word worship originally meant to love. It was a very simple concept.

Unfortunate due to religions that arose in the Mediterranean region of our planet, the very term 'worship' had come to me something much different. Almost to the point of meaning 'to grovel before authority'.

That's a far cry from it's original meaning of "love".

I agree that we are all perfect.

I agree that we should love ourself.

And therefore we should indeed worship ourselves, as well as all other persons and things that we love.

The ideal situation would be to love everything and everyone. Then we would worship the universe.

Perhaps we should use the word "extol" instead of worship since the very word 'worship' had been tainted to imply groveling in oppression to a facist dictator.

I don't mind if people worship me because I'm not a facist dictator. Therefore if they 'worship' me it simple means that they love me. It doesn't imply that they are my slaves.

Perhaps I too would worship them.

In fact, if God loves us then She worships us.

It's that simple.

And I'm sure She does.

So I hope you'll understand when I say that I worship you.

But no more than I worship myself.

And if you become a facist dictator I might still worship you, but just not pay any mind to the commands that you are mumbling.

haha nice. i was having a really interesting discussion last night and i was told that if you love god then you get into heaven...and i think i got stuck on the semantics..

Perfect James!!! Simply perfect!!

christianity.
thesomeone told me that if i accept jesus christ ast my savior i would be well...saved. so i asked exactly what he meant by savior.
he meant that jesus died to save our souls because he loved us, so in turn we must love the lord.
those who believe in christ get to go to heaven.
thus those who love god get in...
like i said i think im hung up on the semantics

I do demand worship from my ant slaves. But I do feed them, and I only take a small amount of ant gravel from them at a time, and I don't allow cars to drive over my ant hill.

JB

it's not just telling, but really believing and feeling the love from Him and to Him through our brothers and sisters here on earth.
If it's not done this way it's empty.
It's like the fundies who go to a revival and say the prayer and they think they are saved, yet they keep preaching hate to those who they must love the most their brothers and sisters.
All these based upon a pharisaic interpretation of the Holy Scripture.

There is a bit more to it than love. You must accept Jesus as your savior, which means you must acknowledge that you cannot save yourself. You can love Jesus all day, but until you accept that he is necessary to your salvation, I don't believe you can be saved.

Those who believe in Christ don't necessarily go to heaven. Demons believe in Jesus and they are not saved. There will be many Christians who believe they are saved, but are not. Salvation is a deceptively simple topic, but it's really the most prominent theme throughout the Bible. It would be best for you to go to a minister to discuss the topic in depth.

Save yourselves. This I say in all sincerity.

Boy, aren't they going to feel betrayed?

To worship a God your whole life and then be rejected by him when you die.

What a bummer. A God that can't be trusted!

There's something grossly wrong with a God who would betray people who have chosen to worship him but somehow got the details wrong.

The God that you are portraying Spider doesn't appear to be loving, merciful, or even caring for that matter.

You appear to just be using religion as an excuse to support your personal views.

Somehow you got it right and devoted Christians like say, Miguel whom you often disagree with got it wrong?

I don't think so. If anything it's probably the other way around.

You make God appear to be a real jerk to be quite honest about it.

I would never trust your picture of God, and I certainly woudln't accept it on pure faith. I wouldn't even want it to be true, much less want to accept it on faith.

It might be ok with you that God would betray so many well-meaning people, but if that's what God is like I want no parts of him.

If God doesn't accept and love a well-meaning decent, Buddhist, Wiccan, Atheist, or anyone, then he's a jerk.

Pure and simple.

The religion you paint has nothing at all to do with any loving God it's a picture of a very decietful and untrustworthy God.

I trust that God is nicer than me.

Period.

If I got it wrong and God isn't as nice as me than I woudln't want to worship the demon anyway.

It's as simple as that.

good thing you CYA - i guess you knew i'd play with that one when i read it!!!

thanks for the smile, I like the way you wrote that

y not save others too wat about the sacrifice from god

Where did you get these criteria for getting into heaven, O.P.?


There seems to be a lot more to it than that to me.

"The word worship originally meant to love"

The word worship was originally workship... they dropped the 'k'.


Search for and watch "Secrets of the Sacred Ark" on the 'tube. ;)

Not sure where you got that information but it does not agree with any dictionary that I'm aware of.

The word "worship" is derived from an Old English word meaning "worthy". As far as pronunciation goes, it has never had a hard 'k' sound (or any glottal stop) in it, going all the way back to it's Indo-European roots.

(ref: American Haritage College Dictionary - Fourth Edition)

cause he said so?