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AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 10/20/08 02:30 PM
Please in you own words specifiy what you consider the word EVIL to mean?

then

Please specifiy in your own words what the word GOOD means to you?

I would prefere to have it be your own words but if you can not speak from the heart without quoting one of the many 'good books' please use them.

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Mon 10/20/08 02:30 PM
women= evil

woman= good

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Mon 10/20/08 02:37 PM
How about the dictionary defintions?

Evil: Morally objectionable behavior.
Good: Moral behavior

Is Meriam-Webster one of those "good books" you were talking about? laugh

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 10/20/08 02:42 PM

How about the dictionary defintions?

Evil: Morally objectionable behavior.
Good: Moral behavior

Is Meriam-Webster one of those "good books" you were talking about? laugh


It's got a lot more true knowledge in it than many that carry the name.ohwell

As in another thread I must ask. Who determines what is or is not acceptable moral behavior.

would it not depend upon where and how you are raised and the standards within that community?
could it be that while you are fighting something that you consider 'evil' that same thing considers you to be 'evil'?

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Mon 10/20/08 02:49 PM


How about the dictionary defintions?

Evil: Morally objectionable behavior.
Good: Moral behavior

Is Meriam-Webster one of those "good books" you were talking about? laugh


It's got a lot more true knowledge in it than many that carry the name.ohwell

As in another thread I must ask. Who determines what is or is not acceptable moral behavior.

would it not depend upon where and how you are raised and the standards within that community?
could it be that while you are fighting something that you consider 'evil' that same thing considers you to be 'evil'?


Yes, that's possible. But I believe that there is subjective morality and objective morally. Subjective morality are morals that society based. In Judaism it's immoral to write or say "God". But objective morals are morals that should rightfully apply to all beliefs. It's always wrong to rape. It's always wrong to murder. It's always wrong to molest children. In my eyes, any belief system that encourages it's followers to violate the objective moral system is a false one. Any philosophy that questions that objective moral system is an illegitimate one, because it is based upon the fallacy that all beliefs are equal. That's simply not true. Some people and religions have beliefs that violate basic human rights to life and health, such beliefs are absolutely wrong in my sight.

"you can believe in stones, as long as you don't throw them at me." Wafa Sultan

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Mon 10/20/08 02:53 PM
well evil is done for furthering oneself at the expense morally or physically or emotionally of another. thats what evil is to me.



good is going out of your way to help someone, not with a door, but with money, or with a good deed or 5. there is no "good deed of the day" you either help someone out of love for them as a person or for your own ulterior motives.

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Mon 10/20/08 02:54 PM


How about the dictionary defintions?

Evil: Morally objectionable behavior.
Good: Moral behavior

Is Meriam-Webster one of those "good books" you were talking about? laugh


It's got a lot more true knowledge in it than many that carry the name.ohwell

As in another thread I must ask. Who determines what is or is not acceptable moral behavior.

would it not depend upon where and how you are raised and the standards within that community?
could it be that while you are fighting something that you consider 'evil' that same thing considers you to be 'evil'?



should you not feel it in your heart what is good and what is evil, independent from where you are born?

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Mon 10/20/08 03:00 PM
good is that which promotes kindness and justice

evil is that which hampers kindness and justice

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Mon 10/20/08 05:35 PM
I don't believe in evil in a religious sense

I guess the closest thing that I would equate to evil would be the will to knowingly harm another either for pure sadistic pleasure (which could even be revenge) or for purely inconsiderate selfish gain. Although, I think there's a fine line between 'evil' and just plain stupidity.

Most people wouldn't consider a mad dog to be 'evil', for example. Simply because they don't give the dog credit for having an evil 'motive'. If evil is associated only with intentional motive then only humans can be evil.

I've meet some humans that I would indeed considered to be evil. They lusted to harm others. They actually enjoyed being sadistic.

However, I can't help but wonder whether they were truly 'evil' or if they were just a victim of very poor mentoring and gross stupidity?

Was Hitler evil? Or just mentally ill?

Is mental illness evil? Is any illness evil? Is disease evil?

I think not. It just is.

How would I define 'good'? For me that's a totally subjective term. Something that I would view as good other people would not, and vice versa. So for me to 'define' the word good all I could do is list all the things and situations that I would consider to be 'good'. I won't even attempt to that here. I think it's complete enough to just say that it's subjective and leave it at that.





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Mon 10/20/08 05:46 PM


1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.


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Mon 10/20/08 07:25 PM
Please in you own words specifiy what you consider the word EVIL to mean?

then

Please specifiy in your own words what the word GOOD means to you?

I would prefere to have it be your own words but if you can not speak from the heart without quoting one of the many 'good books' please use them.


GOOD: That which enables or forwards or acts to further the goals I have chosen to support

EVIL: That which hinders or opposes or acts contrary to the goals I have chosen to support


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Mon 10/20/08 07:45 PM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Mon 10/20/08 08:38 PM
How about the dictionary defintions?

Evil: Morally objectionable behavior.
Good: Moral behavior

Is Meriam-Webster one of those "good books" you were talking about? laugh
It's got a lot more true knowledge in it than many that carry the name.ohwell

As in another thread I must ask. Who determines what is or is not acceptable moral behavior.

would it not depend upon where and how you are raised and the standards within that community?
could it be that while you are fighting something that you consider 'evil' that same thing considers you to be 'evil'?
It's interesting to note that "moral" is used to define "good" and in the same dictionary, "good" is used to define "moral". And the circular definition does little to help in understanding either term.

But you're exactly right. "Moral" is defined by the culture. It is always defined by the culture. And "good" and "evil" are always relative. There is no such thing as "absolute good" or "absolute evil".

Even things that are almost universally thought of as "evil" are always relative. The most that can ever be said about any specific taboo is "under almost all circumstances" it is good/bad.

Not only that, but there are degrees of good and evil. Some things are more evil than others. So any judgenment of good or evil can also include a comparative. That is "_____ is good compared to _____" (e.g. getting poked in the arm with a needle is good compared to getting stabbed through the heart with a sword)

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Mon 10/20/08 08:39 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 10/20/08 08:41 PM
Evil: A way of thinking and doing that is anti-life, anti-freedom, and lacking love, lacking compassion, void of wisdom and sufficient vibrational energy. Extreme Parasitic behavior. Intentional acts that do harm to others with no compassion. Thoughtless acts that give no thought to harming others. Acts motivated by fear. Total selfishness.

Good: A way of thinking and doing that engenders and practices and channels love, compassion, good will, and kindness. Having awareness, having wisdom, being honest, helping others, developing self mastery, developing inner power, contributing to the good of the whole, generosity, gratitude.

JB

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Mon 10/20/08 10:54 PM
What is l o v e ?

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Tue 10/21/08 07:32 AM

What is l o v e ?


L.O.V.E.

Law of Vibrational Energy.

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Tue 10/21/08 08:18 AM
Edited by splendidlife on Tue 10/21/08 08:30 AM
Countless Contexts

Here's just a sample:

Good = The understanding and acceptance that all things exist with equal parts "good" and "bad". Willingness to take full responsibility for both "good" AND "bad" actions and aspects of self.

Evil = The slavish devotion to / obsession with stamping out all evil with acts of "good" and admonishment of all perceived acts of "bad" (self-righteousness). The unwillingness to take full responsibility for both "good" AND "bad" actions and aspects of self.

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 10/21/08 09:26 AM



How about the dictionary defintions?

Evil: Morally objectionable behavior.
Good: Moral behavior

Is Meriam-Webster one of those "good books" you were talking about? laugh


It's got a lot more true knowledge in it than many that carry the name.ohwell

As in another thread I must ask. Who determines what is or is not acceptable moral behavior.

would it not depend upon where and how you are raised and the standards within that community?
could it be that while you are fighting something that you consider 'evil' that same thing considers you to be 'evil'?



should you not feel it in your heart what is good and what is evil, independent from where you are born?

I reckon that would work as long as your heart had not been subject to indoctrination of someone elses belief structure from the time you were unable to know the diference.

:smile:

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Tue 10/21/08 12:03 PM
evil to me ----- hmmmmm, I guess I'd have to sum it up with "only self-serving". Good oddly enough is not the exact opposite, but that of balance.

Jess642's photo
Tue 10/21/08 01:22 PM
Good....being and doing that which sits authentically...that which causes no harm to self or others....ALL sentient beings.

Evil...for me... the intentional and purposeful decision to harm others.

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Tue 10/21/08 02:58 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Tue 10/21/08 03:58 PM
This question always seems to come up in sociology class or similar settings. Its difficult if not impossible for me to define because personally, "good" and "evil" are not distinctive elements. I honestly do not feel that I can successfully sit here and dichotomize any universal truth into specific definitions for "good" and "evil".I can not substitute dualism for polarity.

I believe that the sources of good and evil lie within each individual. The two are not at opposition with one another but instead form the completed whole. Its my Yin and Yang, alpha and omega.Not mutually exclusive items but complementary aspects; each contains the seeds of the other.

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