I know I will be attacked for this but hey, I calls them like I sees them. In their eyes, people of European origin are worth more. They like to blame the victim for not being able to rise in the societies they create and ultimately control. Black are lazy and native Americans are all drunks. That is why they don't insist that you and your are subsidized like the Jews.

Attacked? - not by me you wont!!

they even change history to hide as much as possible the atrocities they have done, " do unto others" only seems to apply when it benifits them and thier agendas. almost every treaty ever signed with the first people was broken most over and over again as they required more land and flooded the country. I'm 2/3rds white so i am not speaking from a bigoted position at all just a truthful one.

it was an awful thing that should have never taken place for sure.

But are you aware that over two hundred million native Americans were killed by the united states citizens, the christian men and supposedly civilized European immigrants?

Why am i bringing this up? well we see how much aid and help in all areas has been given to the Jewish Israeli nation as of the 40's, now compare this to the way Indians are even treated today by the government - there slaughter was 40 times the amt [give or take] and we continued to break treatise with them and take away the original promised land and even today it is bad, the only hope they have is to open casinos and i hope they use it to take all the white mans money they possibly can, not out of greed but out of recompense they deserve, no offense to the Jews or other peoples slaughter unmercifully, but non compares to what happened here to the first peoples in this ""god worshipping"" country!!

This is all true. I can't even talk about some of the thing our government has done and is doing without wanting to scream, wake up people that isn't right.

Compensation (reparation) would first require admission of "wrong"-doing.

Is this country ready for that?

Doubt it.

Perhaps a COMPLETE crash in the financial infrastructure would start the ball rolling, aye?

Compensation (reparation) would first require admission of "wrong"-doing.

Is this country ready for that?

Doubt it.

Perhaps a COMPLETE crash in the financial infrastructure would start the ball rolling, aye?

the demise of the native americans (and other indigenous
peoples) are sad histories in the tale of humankind and
very much deserving of consideration. there were many many
instances of the most brutal and inhumane treatment of
the native peoples, usurping their homelands, fomenting
battles between tribes, and exploitations in many ways.
unfortunately the numbers are impossible to determine although it is pretty clear that total deaths numbered in the millions. but most of the deaths were not the result
of intentional extermination and this is what marks the
difference between what happened to native americans here
and what happened to the Jews of Europe.

for one thing there was no determined comprehensive policy of
eradication of all native americans by the US Govt.

also, many of the deaths occurred because of the introduction
of virulent and previously unknown European diseases to the
population. again, this was not deliberate but had a devastating effect on the native americans. similar stories are found around the globe during various colonizations.

the nature of the genocide of the Jews in Europe was
qualitatively different and every attempt was made to
eliminate the entire population. if Hitler had prevailed
in Europe as the US Govt prevailed in the US, then there
is every reason to believe that all Jews would have been
killed in Europe.

of course there have been many other horrible genocides
even in our days - particularly the Armenian Genocide which was conceived and carried out by the Ottoman Empire from 1915 to 1923, resulting in the deportation of nearly 2,000,000 Armenians, of whom 1,500,000 men, women, and children were killed and 500,000 survivors were expelled from their homes.

in Rwanda during a period of 100 days in 1994, officially 937,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus were killed by Hutus in Rwanda. The rate at which people were killed may have exceeded any other genocide in history. Bodies were left wherever they were slain, mostly in the streets and their homes. The method of killing was done mostly with machetes.

and the Killing Fields of Cambodia where it is estimated that approximately 1.7 million Cambodians were slaughtered between 1975-1979, including deaths from slave labour.

each of these is of course horrible beyond belief, but
the Holocaust of the Jews in Europe is exceptional in
the geographical scope, numbers, and open nature of the killing with large
death camps set up specifically for the murder and
disposition of vast numbers of innocent civilians. also
unfortunately for the ultimate efficiency and success of the
extermination. that is why it is held out so frequently as
the ultimate example of man's inhumanity to man. plus it is
so well documented.

http://www.yadvashem.org/

http://www.ushmm.org/

Once again no mention of African slaves and the 500 hundred year plus of systemic genocide of whole cultures.

Or what the jews are doing to the people of palestine.

You are foolish to compare, and I am sick of the jews stating that their suffering was somehow more profound.

That is just more racist buls**T

That is a typical eurocentric way of dealing with things. They think they can buy forgiveness. I think having a president that sits down and talks to us about how to be better to each other is what we need. To be sensitive and compassionate instead of being defensive.

thnx doe eyes, well if that will do it then we may not be far away. if you visited some of the legal sites of native indians you will see they have proof of all and approach the Gov. with it but to little avail.

but if the economy collapses t will be those that know the hardship of living of the land that will survive the longest and that would be th first people for sure among others who have prepared for times such are about to befall us. by seeds and planting trools my lady - you may need to learn how to produce your own food one day.

Yes, of course every deceitful, greedy, genocidal, bigoted, destructive action against the first peoples is atrociously appalling.

But I have to agree also with s1owhand's evaluation of the fundamental purpose and intention behind the actions. The white man was multiplying at a faster rate than any other race. The natural result of this was (as it has always been for every species on the planet) the expansion of the amount of space required to support the race.

Although there was definitely bigotry and prejudice behind much of the slaughter of the first people, the basic driving force behind it was simply the natural instinct of an expanding population.

And if looked at from a wide enough viewpoint (spacially as well as temporally) it really amounts to a small part of a single step in the evolution of man.

In fact, from the standpoint of evolution, it would have been both unnatural and contra-survival from a racial standpoint for the white man to have voluntarily restricted his own expansion in order to preserve the static state of the first people's race.

However, from my own microscopic viewpoint, I too am both outraged and saddened by the effective destruction of what I have imagined to be a truly beautiful and harmonious culture. And I wish the first people to make boatloads of money from their casinos and/or whatever other resources they have available. Although my reason for that are not in any desire for recompense, but in the desire I would have for anyone of ethics and integrity to flourish and prosper, regardless of any past or current discrimination.

That is a typical eurocentric way of dealing with things. They think they can buy forgiveness. I think having a president that sits down and talks to us about how to be better to each other is what we need. To be sensitive and compassionate instead of being defensive.

Once again no mention of African slaves and the 500 hundred year plus of systemic genocide of whole cultures.

Or what the jews are doing to the people of palestine.

You are foolish to compare, and I am sick of the jews stating that their suffering was somehow more profound.

That is just more racist buls**T