Jesus was a Jew,in the middle east and the Bible was in Hebrew.The Koran is in the middle east and in Arabic.So we are in America and we read english and we are called Christians.
Do you get where I'm going with this?Jesus Christ='s Jew,but Christ='s Christians

nope!

no Im not getting where you are going.

Jesus Christ tried to pass himself off as a Jew

The Gentiles picked him up on the rebound

Mohammad SHOOTS AND SCORES!

ALLAH!

Thank You!

I think you might find that his surname wasnt Christ.

They didnt address him as Mr. Christ.

Postal address

Mr. J. Christ
Third stable to the left, the one with the hol(e)y roof
Down town
Bethlehem
The World


Catholics revere the mother of JC.

Xtians revere Jesus of Nazareth

Muslims revere Isa.

Isa = JC

So although JC was jewish and a muslim, that doesnt stop the xtians revering him.

Belushi is right.Christ means "annointed one" or "chosen one".Its a title,not his name.

Yes it should be Jesus the Christ, not Jesus Christ.

But for some reason everyone says Jesus Christ. Especially when their peeved.

Its understandable ... xtians do get you peeved!

As much as those pesky "bankers"? j/k

I get it

"yeshua ben yoseph" is said to be "Jesus's" real name in another thread. Yeshua translates as Joshua, and "Yoseph" translates as Joseph.

ben means "of" or "son of"

So how did Joshua become Jesus? Why change the name? When and where and why was the name changed?

Most importantly, did this person ever exist or was he just a fictional character? Can anyone even prove he existed outside of the New Testament?

I don't think so. I think the New Testament is a fiction.

“The New Testament, the Church and Christianity, were all the creation of the Calpurnius Piso (pronounced Peso) family, who were Roman aristocrats. The New Testament and all the characters in it - Jesus, all the Josephs, all the Marys, all the disciples, apostles, Paul, John the Baptist - all are fictional. The Pisos created the story and the characters; they tied the story to a specific time and place in history; and they connected it with some peripheral actual people, such as the Herods, Gamaliel, the Roman procurators, etc. But Jesus and everyone involved with him were created (that is fictiotional!) characters.”

The True Authorship Of The New Testament by Abelard Reuchlin,

Perhaps Jesus is the imagination from a great Roman writer.

I believe he was a created character modeled after one or even two real characters.

I know you do! It is nice to see you Jeannie. Hope you are doing well and having enjoyeable times here on Mingle.

Saul of Tarsus had a strong dose of mushrooms, had a vision, decided to claim it was some jewish zombie, changed his name to Paul, then created a religion.

As for the historical Jesus, he might have existed, who knows? Yeshua was a fairly common name back then.

Im a little confused by your comment. Or is it supossed to be a question? Uhh.

Not sure what you just said. Ive never seen a mushroom that burns a person eyes shut, and I know mushrooms.Saul of Tarsis hated Christians and Ive never heard of a mushroom that cures hatred and turns someone into a Christian.Im pretty sure that mushroom dont exist.

I was hinting at the fact that Christianity as we know it, should properly be called Paulism. Saul (Paul) of Tarsus' epistles are the earliest christian writings upon which Christianity is based.

Paul never met any historical figure of Jesus in the flesh. Paul obtained all his "knowledge" through "revelation" or in other words, hallucinations. I would contend he drank too much psilocybin infused tea, had a good trip, and invented a relgion as a result.

If a historical Jesus figure did exist, he was certainly a reformist Jew, whose message was for Jews, not gentiles.

It was not until Paul had his visions, and after the Jews of the time rejected the reformist ideas, that Paul and other would be Christians began preaching to gentiles.

Are you sure... Where you there.

The Qoran? Is there not two versions one in ancient persian, and one in 'arabic'.
Which one was it originally written in?
Interesting how most of the prophets came from the same general area. what is now called the middle east.

Krishna... Persia.
zoraster... Persia.
Mohamad ... Persia?
Bah'u'lla.. Persia.

Only the one known as Jesus comes from what is now called Israel.

What a thought... Could it be that the REAL holy land is not where Israel is but where the hanging gardens were. You know... Near the rivers that bounded the garden.