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It's about being a hypocrite, being power hungry and being inconsistent for me.
Here's a guy who applied for a marriage license with Cindy before he was divorced from his first wife. Was the marriage troubled? Close friends the Reagan's were so disgusted with McCain's behavior at the time it affected their friendship permanently. McCain lead an interesting life...one we don't have to cover now you all know the story or should. Eight years ago, before he started down this path of clear inconsistency, before he demonstrated he was willing to do or say anything to attain the presidency, I might have been more inclined to view his divorce as a simple personal problem. Now it looks like another bit of behavior that illustrates inconsistency and weakness of character. He was and is a man who was born to privilege and feels entitled I think to do just as he likes no matter the consequence. Yes yes tell me the prisoner of war story again. Sorry, while I appreciate his sacrifice his behavior in other aspects of his life, personal and public, make me mistrust him. |
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how do you know he abandoned her? maybe he's paying a nice alimony check and/or child support. how do you know she waited just because she was still there does not mean she waited and what does that prove it proves she did not file you do not know what she did while she was waiting who knows if or how many affairs may or may not of taken place As the Arizona Republic then related it: Arizona Republic, March 1, 2007: After a whirlwind courtship, John asked Cindy to marry him. But there were some details to clear out of the way. McCain needed a divorce from Carol, his wife of 14 years from whom he was never separated. http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_john_mccain_cheat_on_his_first.html |
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that is hilarious...morality wasn't part of his platform......so it is not a trait that you desire in a president then......Right???? that's your logic here... Again......So What????? if it's not a trait that you find desirable in your past presidents...why is it important to you now???? it didn't bother you when the last democratic president was impeached .....but now it bothers you?????? Again, i say so what! |
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how do you know he abandoned her? maybe he's paying a nice alimony check and/or child support. how do you know she waited just because she was still there does not mean she waited and what does that prove it proves she did not file you do not know what she did while she was waiting who knows if or how many affairs may or may not of taken place As the Arizona Republic then related it: Arizona Republic, March 1, 2007: After a whirlwind courtship, John asked Cindy to marry him. But there were some details to clear out of the way. McCain needed a divorce from Carol, his wife of 14 years from whom he was never separated. http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_john_mccain_cheat_on_his_first.html again how do you know he abandoned her? maybe he's paying a nice alimony check and/or child support. how do you know she waited just because she was still there does not mean she waited and what does that prove it proves she did not file you do not know what she did while she was waiting who knows if or how many affairs may or may not of taken place |
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how do you know he abandoned her? maybe he's paying a nice alimony check and/or child support. how do you know she waited just because she was still there does not mean she waited and what does that prove it proves she did not file you do not know what she did while she was waiting who knows if or how many affairs may or may not of taken place As the Arizona Republic then related it: Arizona Republic, March 1, 2007: After a whirlwind courtship, John asked Cindy to marry him. But there were some details to clear out of the way. McCain needed a divorce from Carol, his wife of 14 years from whom he was never separated. http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_john_mccain_cheat_on_his_first.html again how do you know he abandoned her? maybe he's paying a nice alimony check and/or child support. how do you know she waited just because she was still there does not mean she waited and what does that prove it proves she did not file you do not know what she did while she was waiting who knows if or how many affairs may or may not of taken place As the Arizona Republic then related it: Arizona Republic, March 1, 2007: After a whirlwind courtship, John asked Cindy to marry him. But there were some details to clear out of the way. McCain needed a divorce from Carol, his wife of 14 years from whom he was never separated. http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_john_mccain_cheat_on_his_first.html |
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Well, I can't believe I'm actually gonna do this but here goes. Since I don't have a timeline as to when he left and when he met the current Mrs, perhaps I'm way off-base on this. But, in VA, you must be physically separated for at least one year before you can file for a divorce, which then takes at minimum 3 months to go through the courts, most likely more if there were any issues of dispute. He could have met the current Mrs. at any time AFTER he left but before the divorce went through. Technically, yes I suppose it could be construed as an affair but it doesn't mean he left his ex FOR his current. As to the reasons for their divorce, the world may never know and really, is it any of our business? So, she was the mother of his children. Happens every day, unfortunately. So, she was hurt in an accident, again, unfortunately it happens every day. Her accident and any problems arising from it may or may not have had anything to do with anything. Fact of the matter is, most marriages end simply because people grow in different directions. It's not a choice people make and often it happens, despite great effort at one or both parties to change things. They spent a great deal of time apart, due to circumstances beyond their control. They both went through extremely traumatic events. And unless you've been there, you have NO idea how those events can change everything about you (and yes, I know that from experience). It could very well be that they both wanted this marriage to end and they were both ok with it. Thing is, we don't know. Neither one is talking, which to me speaks volumes about integrity. Perhaps they've put the past behind them, where it belongs. JMO  I found this. It explains some time. In 1979 – while still married to Carol – he met Cindy at a cocktail party in Hawaii. Over the next six months he pursued her, flying around the country to see her. Then he began to push to end his marriage. He married Cindy right after the divorce. Thank you. If this is, indeed, accurate then it puts things into a different perspective regarding his morals and integrity. However, if the sole reason he left his wife was because of her accident, I think perhaps he did her a favor. I know I wouldn't want to be with someone if the only reason they were there was a sense of obligation. But, that still wouldn't excuse an affair, if one did occur. You're welcome.
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Edited by
Zapchaser
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Wed 10/15/08 05:14 PM
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i didn't realize that there was a 'national enquirer' thread on these boards. i'm a firm believer in that people who are no longer in love with each other should not have to stay together, just for the sake of staying together. i don't presume to know what went on in their personal lives to cause the breakup, nor do i care. but i don't see how any of it has a thing to do with how he would run your country. It shows one's character if they have affairs while still married. It shows a hypocrite if they are always preaching family values. Curiously, I remember you complaining that people should stay out of someone's personal life back when people were raising the same questions about Clinton's affair(s). Did that speak of his character as well? Or does the double standard speak of yours? You have NO idea what went on in his personal life. Does Obama's alignment with people in his past speak of HIS character to you? Or are the rose colored glasses firmly fixed? Can you show me where McCain "preached" family values? If one aspires to raise their family with values, (as opposed to having NO values I suppose?)do they first need to be perfect in your opinion? I like to think we all aspire to bettering our lives and the lives of our family members but we will surely trip up from time to time as we are human. Because someone trips and gets up to go at it again says a whole lot more of their character than if they lied to the world about their continual extramarital affairs. |
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Edited by
Winx
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Wed 10/15/08 05:13 PM
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i didn't realize that there was a 'national enquirer' thread on these boards. i'm a firm believer in that people who are no longer in love with each other should not have to stay together, just for the sake of staying together. i don't presume to know what went on in their personal lives to cause the breakup, nor do i care. but i don't see how any of it has a thing to do with how he would run your country. It shows one's character if they have affairs while still married. It shows a hypocrite if they are always preaching family values. Curiously, I remember you complaining that people should stay out of someone's personal life back when people were raising the same questions about Clinton's affair(s). Did that speak of his character as well? Or does the double standard speak of yours? You have NO idea what went on in his personal life. Does Obama's alignment with people in his past speak of HIS character to you? Or are the rose colored glasses firmly fixed? Sorry but you have me confused with somebody else. I have NEVER talked about Clinton's affair on here. |
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Edited by
Zapchaser
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Wed 10/15/08 05:18 PM
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i didn't realize that there was a 'national enquirer' thread on these boards. i'm a firm believer in that people who are no longer in love with each other should not have to stay together, just for the sake of staying together. i don't presume to know what went on in their personal lives to cause the breakup, nor do i care. but i don't see how any of it has a thing to do with how he would run your country. It shows one's character if they have affairs while still married. It shows a hypocrite if they are always preaching family values. Curiously, I remember you complaining that people should stay out of someone's personal life back when people were raising the same questions about Clinton's affair(s). Did that speak of his character as well? Or does the double standard speak of yours? You have NO idea what went on in his personal life. Does Obama's alignment with people in his past speak of HIS character to you? Or are the rose colored glasses firmly fixed? Sorry but you have me confused with somebody else. I have NEVER talked about Clinton's affair on here. Okay, then please tell me how his affair(S) affect your opinion of his character?
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That's what I thought.
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Edited by
Unknow
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Wed 10/15/08 07:50 PM
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That's what I thought. |
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That's what I thought. It appears that you are drawing an assumption on something you know nothing about. Not being disrespectful but none of us knows enough to comment. As far as who I think McCain will focus his attention on? Same as Obama- Joe millionaire because he is the one handing out the cash to the greedy politicians. 
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That's what I thought. That's what you thought? Excuse me? I didn't know that I was supposed to be glued to the computer. Let me see...cook dinner, feed kid, kid's homework, laundry, watch a debate. My very deepest apologies for not answering your question. |
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That's what I thought. That's what you thought? Excuse me? I didn't know that I was supposed to be glued to the computer. Let me see...cook dinner, feed kid, kid's homework, laundry, watch a debate. My very deepest apologies for not answering your question. Did laundry, built three counter tops, painted four doors, watched the debate, answered four customer calls. No apology necessary.I am one of those small business owners that Obama wants to suck the revenue from so I will be forced, as many of us will, to add bodies to the unemployment line.
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That's what I thought. That's what you thought? Excuse me? I didn't know that I was supposed to be glued to the computer. Let me see...cook dinner, feed kid, kid's homework, laundry, watch a debate. My very deepest apologies for not answering your question. Did laundry, built three counter tops, painted four doors, watched the debate, answered four customer calls. No apology necessary.I am one of those small business owners that Obama wants to suck the revenue from so I will be forced, as many of us will, to add bodies to the unemployment line. Ahh...but you didn't mention a kid. That's covers the three counter tops and painted four doors. I watched the debate. Obama isn't going to be hurting the small businesses. |
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Edited by
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Wed 10/15/08 09:52 PM
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That's what I thought. That's what you thought? Excuse me? I didn't know that I was supposed to be glued to the computer. Let me see...cook dinner, feed kid, kid's homework, laundry, watch a debate. My very deepest apologies for not answering your question. Did laundry, built three counter tops, painted four doors, watched the debate, answered four customer calls. No apology necessary.I am one of those small business owners that Obama wants to suck the revenue from so I will be forced, as many of us will, to add bodies to the unemployment line. Ahh...but you didn't mention a kid. That's covers the three counter tops and painted four doors. I watched the debate. Obama isn't going to be hurting the small businesses. Um, I raised my three children as a singlr=e parent. Two sons and a daughter. They are all adults now. Obama won't hurt small business? May we readdress your comment a year from now? Perhaps if you were to research his claims and promises you might find that blind hope for change is a bad vote for all in November. You clearly know as much about business and a market economy as he does. Simple economics. Now back to the OP, and the question you side-stepped, did Bill Clinton's marital infidelities affect how you viewed his integrity? |
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That's what I thought. That's what you thought? Excuse me? I didn't know that I was supposed to be glued to the computer. Let me see...cook dinner, feed kid, kid's homework, laundry, watch a debate. My very deepest apologies for not answering your question. Did laundry, built three counter tops, painted four doors, watched the debate, answered four customer calls. No apology necessary.I am one of those small business owners that Obama wants to suck the revenue from so I will be forced, as many of us will, to add bodies to the unemployment line. Ahh...but you didn't mention a kid. That's covers the three counter tops and painted four doors. I watched the debate. Obama isn't going to be hurting the small businesses. Um, I raised my three children as a singlr=e parent. Two sons and a daughter. They are all adults now. Obama won't hurt small business? May we readdress your comment a year from now? Perhaps if you were to research his claims and promises you might find that blind hope for change is a bad vote for all in November. You clearly know as much about business and a market economy as he does. Simple economics. I like his economics. I hope he can work it out. |
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I'll check for your answer in the morning. Four worksites, three workers (temporarily til Obama gets to have em)and 5:00 am will roll around too quickly. Thanks winx, have a great night.
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I'll check for your answer in the morning. Four worksites, three workers (temporarily til Obama gets to have em)and 5:00 am will roll around too quickly. Thanks winx, have a great night. I'm confused. What answer? Why do you think Obama's going to have them? |
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Was wondering the same thing?
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