Topic: I dont understand, please help
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Fri 10/24/08 05:50 PM
I am not just stating that she belongs to the NRA, I a stating that she brags about it and she promotes automatic weapons that are killing a lot moe teenagers than wolves. Furthermore, Palin has stated that even in the situation of rape...a woman should never be able to make a choice about her body.

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Fri 10/24/08 05:53 PM
I wouldn't worry about it too much. She will be the downfall of the republican election. She is the reason Obama is ahead in the poles, and she is the reason he will win.

Hats off to the fundamentalist socker mom! drinker

Krimsa's photo
Fri 10/24/08 06:01 PM

I am not just stating that she belongs to the NRA, I a stating that she brags about it and she promotes automatic weapons that are killing a lot moe teenagers than wolves. Furthermore, Palin has stated that even in the situation of rape...a woman should never be able to make a choice about her body.


Whos shooting wolves with automatic weapons exactly? Christ...noway

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Fri 10/24/08 06:30 PM
I am not just stating that she belongs to the NRA, I a stating that she brags about it and she promotes automatic weapons that are killing a lot moe teenagers than wolves. Furthermore, Palin has stated that even in the situation of rape...a woman should never be able to make a choice about her body.

Who's shooting wolves with automatic weapons exactly? Christ...noway

You don't get it Krimsa.

There is no "who". The automatic weapons are doing it all by themselves.

Apparently they were bestowed with self-determinism by Sarah Palin when she promoted them from "wolf killers" to "teen killers" and now they're running amuck across the countryside. The only way we'll be able to stop tham is to cease all manufacturing of ammunition, which will eventually starve them to death. Or at least make them so weak from hunger that we'll be able to capture them and remove their magainzines, thus rendering them harmless. And in the interests of being humane, we could issue them blanks to shoot so they would at least be able to pretend and bask in the nostalgia of their glory days of freedom.

laugh :tongue: flowerforyou

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Fri 10/24/08 06:37 PM

I am not just stating that she belongs to the NRA, I a stating that she brags about it and she promotes automatic weapons that are killing a lot moe teenagers than wolves. Furthermore, Palin has stated that even in the situation of rape...a woman should never be able to make a choice about her body.

Who's shooting wolves with automatic weapons exactly? Christ...noway

You don't get it Krimsa.

There is no "who". The automatic weapons are doing it all by themselves.

Apparently they were bestowed with self-determinism by Sarah Palin when she promoted them from "wolf killers" to "teen killers" and now they're running amuck across the countryside. The only way we'll be able to stop tham is to cease all manufacturing of ammunition, which will eventually starve them to death. Or at least make them so weak from hunger that we'll be able to capture them and remove their magainzines, thus rendering them harmless. And in the interests of being humane, we could issue them blanks to shoot so they would at least be able to pretend and bask in the nostalgia of their glory days of freedom.

laugh :tongue: flowerforyou



We can have an "M16 roundup" laugh happy :tongue: It will be fun

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Fri 10/24/08 06:39 PM
Look Morales should not be legislated.

neither should beliefs that is what this country is founded on, the second you give the gov power to choose life and death for you and your children watch the f out.

Jeremy

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Fri 10/24/08 06:49 PM

Look Morales should not be legislated.

neither should beliefs that is what this country is founded on, the second you give the gov power to choose life and death for you and your children watch the f out.

Jeremy


I would take that a step further and profess that you CAN NOT legislate morality. Legislation cannot create morality either. Prohibition did not stir moral outrage against drinking; it stirred outrage against Prohibition itself, and promoted widespread disrespect for all laws. noway It just doesnt work.

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Fri 10/24/08 07:21 PM
Look Morales should not be legislated.

neither should beliefs that is what this country is founded on, the second you give the gov power to choose life and death for you and your children watch the f out.

Jeremy

I would take that a step further and profess that you CAN NOT legislate morality. Legislation cannot create morality either. Prohibition did not stir moral outrage against drinking; it stirred outrage against Prohibition itself, and promoted widespread disrespect for all laws. noway It just doesnt work.


There is an old adage: “The easiest way to create criminals is to find something people are already doing and make it illegal.”

Social engineering at it finest.

tribo's photo
Fri 10/24/08 08:50 PM
OR:

2 lbs of CRIM

140 lbs of animal - mix well bake at 350 for 2 hrs let cool and serve. :tongue:

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Fri 10/24/08 09:29 PM

OR:

2 lbs of CRIM

140 lbs of animal - mix well bake at 350 for 2 hrs let cool and serve. :tongue:
Would you call that "crimanibalism".

sickembarassed

(Ok, I'll go quietly.)

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Fri 10/24/08 09:40 PM
I would have to agree....any women who would offer to raise a offspring of a brutal attack... God Bless you! And good luck with the emotional trauma in the years to come of the child of a violent crime. Better yet, the rapist should be the proud parent! Is it a law women have to raise a child they never planned??

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Sat 10/25/08 03:24 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Sat 10/25/08 03:26 AM

I would have to agree....any women who would offer to raise a offspring of a brutal attack... God Bless you! And good luck with the emotional trauma in the years to come of the child of a violent crime. Better yet, the rapist should be the proud parent! Is it a law women have to raise a child they never planned??


flowers

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Sun 10/26/08 09:11 AM


It is no longer part of the woman's body at birth. A woman should have the right to control her body. A fetus is a part of her body until it is born. If a woman decides she doesn't want a child after birth and kills it then it is a human being with full rights. I should not even have to explain this, it is obvious.


The child is never a part of the woman's body. It has it's own DNA and exists separated from her body by the placenta.

Do you support the right of women to commit suicide? If not, why not?

Do you support the right of women to mutilate their bodies? If a women wanted to remove all of the skin from her body, should she be allowed to? If not, why not?

I support your right to kill yourself.

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Sun 10/26/08 09:17 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 10/26/08 09:17 AM



It is no longer part of the woman's body at birth. A woman should have the right to control her body. A fetus is a part of her body until it is born. If a woman decides she doesn't want a child after birth and kills it then it is a human being with full rights. I should not even have to explain this, it is obvious.


The child is never a part of the woman's body. It has it's own DNA and exists separated from her body by the placenta.

Do you support the right of women to commit suicide? If not, why not?

Do you support the right of women to mutilate their bodies? If a women wanted to remove all of the skin from her body, should she be allowed to? If not, why not?


By mutilate do you mean to include piercings and tattoos? I do support the right of ANYONE to mutilate their bodies if they want to. They can also kill themselves if they want.

As for removing all of the skin from her body, I don't see how that would be possible, but if she can figure a way to do that I would only object to her doing it in public. Yuck.


JB

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Sun 10/26/08 10:06 AM



It is no longer part of the woman's body at birth. A woman should have the right to control her body. A fetus is a part of her body until it is born. If a woman decides she doesn't want a child after birth and kills it then it is a human being with full rights. I should not even have to explain this, it is obvious.


The child is never a part of the woman's body. It has it's own DNA and exists separated from her body by the placenta.

Do you support the right of women to commit suicide? If not, why not?

Do you support the right of women to mutilate their bodies? If a women wanted to remove all of the skin from her body, should she be allowed to? If not, why not?

I support your right to kill yourself.


As do I. I feel that humans are entitled to an inherent right to dignity and self determination. I would support someone completely if they chose to terminate their own existence. Absolutely.

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Sun 10/26/08 10:20 AM
Edited by symbelmyne on Sun 10/26/08 10:21 AM

Uh...I think the difference is abortion kills innocent life.

Self defense & hunting for food is not a sin. Do you have to eat to survive?

What's sad is people are so bamboozled that they can't distinguish between murder & self defense or sport vs. self preservation ????


mmmm...god said:"thou shalt not kill"

pretty clear and concise...if you have to eat to survive, thats why there are fruits, vegetables and grains....

as for self defense, I believe Jesus taught "turn the other cheek"..so for all of you NRA.."Christians" I say keep preaching whatever works for you. Youre not fooling anyone...

for the record, Im pro-choice and dont believe in "god"...

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Sun 10/26/08 10:23 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Sun 10/26/08 10:25 AM
Maybe shes on the Atkins diet and only eats steak and bacon? laugh :wink: Shes gotta get up each morning at 6am with a semi-automatic weapon and hunt down her breakfast. :wink: Then rush to church. Whoosh!.

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Sun 10/26/08 10:31 AM

Maybe shes on the Atkins diet and only eats steak and bacon? laugh :wink: Shes gotta get up each morning at 6am with a semi-automatic weapon and hunt down her breakfast. :wink: Then rush to church. Whoosh!.


rofl

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Sun 10/26/08 11:14 AM


Uh...I think the difference is abortion kills innocent life.

Self defense & hunting for food is not a sin. Do you have to eat to survive?

What's sad is people are so bamboozled that they can't distinguish between murder & self defense or sport vs. self preservation ????



Abortion does not kill innocent life.

First, you are not considered to be "alive" until you are born and take a few breaths. (I realize there will be disagreement here.. but that is just the law's version.)

Second, if you believe what Christianity teaches, all people are born in sin and Christianity pretty much guarantees that they are and will be sinners, and some say that their lives are almost pre-determined as "God knows all that they will do."

And Christianity also claims, (does it not?), that only Jesus is "without sin" or "innocent." That means that babies are not innocent and have no hope of being innocent given they are being born into a world of sin and sinners.








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Mon 10/27/08 11:36 PM

Please help me to understand how Vice presidaent canidate Sarah Palin can be so religious to say that abortion is never acceptable because that is killing and the 10 commandments states that "Though shall not kill". Yet it is ok for her to belong and brag about her membership to the NRA, includng promoting semi automatic weapons, and shoot wolves from the sky? I dont undestand. I also dont understand how born again, evalengelical believers inluding Sarah Palin can state and believe that even if a woman is raped, she should not be allowed to abort the fetes. In my faith, (in which we use only the old testiment), a woman that would suffer physical or emotional damage due to caring a fetus full term, if supposed to abort the child. The woman's helth comes first. I cannot imagine how delivering a child conceived as a result of rape would not cause immense emotional and psycological damage to the already emotionally damge woman.


Animals do not have souls and God himself started the institution of killings animals for the use of humans. There are people whose lives are dependent on animals, and when a wolf comes in and destroys his livelyhood, then humans come first. I don't believe a woman should abort just because she is raped either. I understand there is emotional problems that come from that, but adding the death of her own baby to that is just as damaging than the rape, this based on many women who regretted their abortions, and giving birth to that baby isn't going to add to problems already there. The act of getting an abortion is in itself just as dangerous to the womans health, if not more so, than having that baby. I know of one girl who got very sick from having an abortion, and then regretted having it. I don't know what faith you are of, but no where in my Bible, old or new testament, does it say it is okay to kill a baby before it is born.