Topic: god created man an women
talldub's photo
Sun 10/12/08 11:58 PM





"Beware of people who claim to do good in my name"

.... =)


Who said that? God? Jesus? Did YOU hear them say that?


Didnt hear God say it, he wrote it =)

Then again i have faith so i dont need proof. =P

He personally wrote it? So we have God's hand writing somewhere that we can analyse it and try to figure out what game he is playing right?!

Faith and love, they must both be blind. They both have the power to do so much good and yet so much harm also comes about because of them. If you'd been born in, say, Iraq, chances are your faith would be somewhat different. Would you still consider Christianity to be right then or would you believe in what you'd been raised to believe?

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Mon 10/13/08 12:02 AM
Talldub because you feel you were forced and now hate christ from what it seems, dont assume i was the same since it was on my own, i found christ. Again i have my faith, u dont, u need proof, and even if u got proof it wouldnt be enough =)

talldub's photo
Mon 10/13/08 12:07 AM

Talldub because you feel you were forced and now hate christ from what it seems, dont assume i was the same since it was on my own, i found christ. Again i have my faith, u dont, u need proof, and even if u got proof it wouldnt be enough =)

I wasn't forced at all, far from it, I was free to make my own decisions, my parents had me baptised as a child and I was raised as a Christian but they were open minded enough to realise that not everyone shares their views and they even admitted that maybe, just maybe, the whole thing might be a load of rubbish.

My point remains valid though, had you grown up in a muslim country, chances are that you'd be praying to Allah, not God or JC. You're just pretty blinkered by your faith.

As for proof, if God appeared before me and said "What do you think of me now", hell yes, I'd believe. But we both know that won't happen. I mean, all the prayers that go unanswered, he's just gonna come and say hi to me personally to change my mind?!!!

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Mon 10/13/08 12:14 AM

[I wasn't forced at all, far from it, I was free to make my own decisions, my parents had me baptised as a child and I was raised as a Christian but they were open minded enough to realise that not everyone shares their views and they even admitted that maybe, just maybe, the whole thing might be a load of rubbish.

My point remains valid though, had you grown up in a muslim country, chances are that you'd be praying to Allah, not God or JC. You're just pretty blinkered by your faith.

As for proof, if God appeared before me and said "What do you think of me now", hell yes, I'd believe. But we both know that won't happen. I mean, all the prayers that go unanswered, he's just gonna come and say hi to me personally to change my mind?!!!


Vaild, no, well maybe since i didnt live that life, so im greatful to find my faith the first time around =).. Like a potential wife. =) far from blinkered.

and it has happened to people, God has shown his presence, it can happen. Honestly? Youd probably come up with somthing to explain it

it was a statement to say proof or not, you dont want to know the truth

talldub's photo
Mon 10/13/08 12:16 AM


[I wasn't forced at all, far from it, I was free to make my own decisions, my parents had me baptised as a child and I was raised as a Christian but they were open minded enough to realise that not everyone shares their views and they even admitted that maybe, just maybe, the whole thing might be a load of rubbish.

My point remains valid though, had you grown up in a muslim country, chances are that you'd be praying to Allah, not God or JC. You're just pretty blinkered by your faith.

As for proof, if God appeared before me and said "What do you think of me now", hell yes, I'd believe. But we both know that won't happen. I mean, all the prayers that go unanswered, he's just gonna come and say hi to me personally to change my mind?!!!


Vaild, no, well maybe since i didnt live that life, so im greatful to find my faith the first time around =).. Like a potential wife. =) far from blinkered.

and it has happened to people, God has shown his presence, it can happen. Honestly? Youd probably come up with somthing to explain it

it was a statement to say proof or not, you dont want to know the truth

In that same vein, you're just blinded by faith. You assume that your faith is the truth. And you know what they say about assume, right?

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Mon 10/13/08 12:17 AM



[I wasn't forced at all, far from it, I was free to make my own decisions, my parents had me baptised as a child and I was raised as a Christian but they were open minded enough to realise that not everyone shares their views and they even admitted that maybe, just maybe, the whole thing might be a load of rubbish.

My point remains valid though, had you grown up in a muslim country, chances are that you'd be praying to Allah, not God or JC. You're just pretty blinkered by your faith.

As for proof, if God appeared before me and said "What do you think of me now", hell yes, I'd believe. But we both know that won't happen. I mean, all the prayers that go unanswered, he's just gonna come and say hi to me personally to change my mind?!!!


Vaild, no, well maybe since i didnt live that life, so im greatful to find my faith the first time around =).. Like a potential wife. =) far from blinkered.

and it has happened to people, God has shown his presence, it can happen. Honestly? Youd probably come up with somthing to explain it

it was a statement to say proof or not, you dont want to know the truth

In that same vein, you're just blinded by faith. You assume that your faith is the truth. And you know what they say about assume, right?




I dont assume though =) and maybe being blind is good thing?

then again u assume about me =)

talldub's photo
Mon 10/13/08 12:19 AM




[I wasn't forced at all, far from it, I was free to make my own decisions, my parents had me baptised as a child and I was raised as a Christian but they were open minded enough to realise that not everyone shares their views and they even admitted that maybe, just maybe, the whole thing might be a load of rubbish.

My point remains valid though, had you grown up in a muslim country, chances are that you'd be praying to Allah, not God or JC. You're just pretty blinkered by your faith.

As for proof, if God appeared before me and said "What do you think of me now", hell yes, I'd believe. But we both know that won't happen. I mean, all the prayers that go unanswered, he's just gonna come and say hi to me personally to change my mind?!!!


Vaild, no, well maybe since i didnt live that life, so im greatful to find my faith the first time around =).. Like a potential wife. =) far from blinkered.

and it has happened to people, God has shown his presence, it can happen. Honestly? Youd probably come up with somthing to explain it

it was a statement to say proof or not, you dont want to know the truth

In that same vein, you're just blinded by faith. You assume that your faith is the truth. And you know what they say about assume, right?




I dont assume though =) and maybe being blind is good thing?

then again u assume about me =)


Being blind must be great - right up to the point where you walk off a cliff!

Possibly, I can admit that I probably do assume about you, but most of what I have said has been based on what you have said, which makes it less of an assumption!

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Mon 10/13/08 12:21 AM





[I wasn't forced at all, far from it, I was free to make my own decisions, my parents had me baptised as a child and I was raised as a Christian but they were open minded enough to realise that not everyone shares their views and they even admitted that maybe, just maybe, the whole thing might be a load of rubbish.

My point remains valid though, had you grown up in a muslim country, chances are that you'd be praying to Allah, not God or JC. You're just pretty blinkered by your faith.

As for proof, if God appeared before me and said "What do you think of me now", hell yes, I'd believe. But we both know that won't happen. I mean, all the prayers that go unanswered, he's just gonna come and say hi to me personally to change my mind?!!!


Vaild, no, well maybe since i didnt live that life, so im greatful to find my faith the first time around =).. Like a potential wife. =) far from blinkered.

and it has happened to people, God has shown his presence, it can happen. Honestly? Youd probably come up with somthing to explain it

it was a statement to say proof or not, you dont want to know the truth

In that same vein, you're just blinded by faith. You assume that your faith is the truth. And you know what they say about assume, right?




I dont assume though =) and maybe being blind is good thing?

then again u assume about me =)


Being blind must be great - right up to the point where you walk off a cliff!

Possibly, I can admit that I probably do assume about you, but most of what I have said has been based on what you have said, which makes it less of an assumption!


But your assumptions are stero-typical.. and are wrong..

What if i am guided? can i fall?

talldub's photo
Mon 10/13/08 12:24 AM


But your assumptions are stero-typical.. and are wrong..

What if i am guided? can i fall?


And your beliefs are stereotypical and are probably wrong too! If everyone on the planet who believed in some sort of God at least believed the same thing, I might think there was something to it. Seeing as they are all convinced that they are right, there's pretty little chance that any of them are!

Guided by someone that actually exists and isn't blinded then probably not! But then again, science could probably help you see, prayers won't!

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Mon 10/13/08 12:27 AM



But your assumptions are stero-typical.. and are wrong..

What if i am guided? can i fall?


And your beliefs are stereotypical and are probably wrong too! If everyone on the planet who believed in some sort of God at least believed the same thing, I might think there was something to it. Seeing as they are all convinced that they are right, there's pretty little chance that any of them are!

Guided by someone that actually exists and isn't blinded then probably not! But then again, science could probably help you see, prayers won't!


Science says its impossible to see.... well to get your vision back!

my beliefs are not stereo-typical they apply to me quite well and many do believe in God.. to be honest most believe "in somthing" but dont know what.. Prayers has helped me see! ask me before u assume

talldub's photo
Mon 10/13/08 12:31 AM




But your assumptions are stero-typical.. and are wrong..

What if i am guided? can i fall?


And your beliefs are stereotypical and are probably wrong too! If everyone on the planet who believed in some sort of God at least believed the same thing, I might think there was something to it. Seeing as they are all convinced that they are right, there's pretty little chance that any of them are!

Guided by someone that actually exists and isn't blinded then probably not! But then again, science could probably help you see, prayers won't!


Science says its impossible to see.... well to get your vision back!

my beliefs are not stereo-typical they apply to me quite well and many do believe in God.. to be honest most believe "in somthing" but dont know what.. Prayers has helped me see! ask me before u assume

Science does not say it's impossible, only that we don't have the ability to do it now. Certainly a better chance with science to heal with prayer.

They are stereotypical you know. They're not unique, they're pretty much the same beliefs as everyone else in your religion.

KalamazooGuy87's photo
Mon 10/13/08 12:35 AM





But your assumptions are stero-typical.. and are wrong..

What if i am guided? can i fall?


And your beliefs are stereotypical and are probably wrong too! If everyone on the planet who believed in some sort of God at least believed the same thing, I might think there was something to it. Seeing as they are all convinced that they are right, there's pretty little chance that any of them are!

Guided by someone that actually exists and isn't blinded then probably not! But then again, science could probably help you see, prayers won't!


Science says its impossible to see.... well to get your vision back!

my beliefs are not stereo-typical they apply to me quite well and many do believe in God.. to be honest most believe "in somthing" but dont know what.. Prayers has helped me see! ask me before u assume

Science does not say it's impossible, only that we don't have the ability to do it now. Certainly a better chance with science to heal with prayer.

They are stereotypical you know. They're not unique, they're pretty much the same beliefs as everyone else in your religion.


religion is unique to each, therefore your wrong.

Well again u dont do your research, maybe just blind hatred. There have been people who have got thier vision back through prayer, or blind beliefs as you like to call it, simply google it to find your proof =)

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Mon 10/13/08 01:29 AM
Edited by SharpShooter10 on Mon 10/13/08 01:40 AM

that story or theory is as stale as the bible Morning song, find something new.

27 So God <0430> created <01254> (8799) man <0120> in his own image <06754>, in the image <06754> of God <0430> created <01254> (8804) he him; male <02145> and female <05347> created <01254> (8804) he them.


strongs man 0120 - can mean a man singular or mankind plural - in this case i believe its mankind plural not just speaking of A&E but of all mankind -if it was as everyone else says then explain to me where all the different feautures we see in all the worlds cultures came from? even at the beginning they would have only produced there kind meaning what ever color hair,skin,eyes,etc.. would have been the same or similiar - there were no jeans that would have produced off the bat from one gene source - red.black, brown,or other color hairs, no source from the First pair for that. of course you'll say well god can do anything, well you can believe that but show me the evidence please for what i'm stating please? not verses.

so my friend in my views All races were made at the start- for adam and eve it was different they were not spoken into being god actually formed them personally and seperated them and placed them in the garden, they were to be the chosen ones to bring forth the decendants that would lead to your christ. that is why the geneologies start with Cain and his wife [another race]be she black, brown, white,red,or yellow, and all his decendants and then seths lineage. if you want more truths let me know.
What's up Tribo?

I think That in Gen 1:26-27, "man" is mankind, male and female, cultures, races etc in the plural.

In Gen 2:5-7, this was "man" in the singular, The Man Adam, eth Ha Adam in Heb, created after the seventh day of Gods rest. The line through which Christ would come.

the sixth day creation of mankind are the ones Cain feared and found a wife among. The land of Nod Gen 4:16

Looks like we agreedrinker The first six chapters of Genesis say so much. Lots of people believe and are taught that Adam and Eve were the first two people and all of us came from them. Makes more sense when you know that "man" has more than one meaning and is used in plural and singular. Since "The Man Adam" was created after God rested on the 7th, that makes him an 8th day creation and "man" as used on the sixth day creation is plural being mankind,(males and females of different cultures and races and such). But that in not the way it is read or taught very often. Sixth and Eighth day creation, that doesn't go well with a lot of Christians either. It is how I read and understand those verses however.

talldub's photo
Mon 10/13/08 03:06 AM






But your assumptions are stero-typical.. and are wrong..

What if i am guided? can i fall?


And your beliefs are stereotypical and are probably wrong too! If everyone on the planet who believed in some sort of God at least believed the same thing, I might think there was something to it. Seeing as they are all convinced that they are right, there's pretty little chance that any of them are!

Guided by someone that actually exists and isn't blinded then probably not! But then again, science could probably help you see, prayers won't!


Science says its impossible to see.... well to get your vision back!

my beliefs are not stereo-typical they apply to me quite well and many do believe in God.. to be honest most believe "in somthing" but dont know what.. Prayers has helped me see! ask me before u assume

Science does not say it's impossible, only that we don't have the ability to do it now. Certainly a better chance with science to heal with prayer.

They are stereotypical you know. They're not unique, they're pretty much the same beliefs as everyone else in your religion.


religion is unique to each, therefore your wrong.

Well again u dont do your research, maybe just blind hatred. There have been people who have got thier vision back through prayer, or blind beliefs as you like to call it, simply google it to find your proof =)

So I'm wrong but everyone with their own different interpretation is right? Isn't that just another way of saying that everyone is believing what they want to believe. So out of all the beliefs, 1 or 0 of them are correct which means a lot of people are wasting their time.

Satanists, Pagans and atheists have also gotten their sight back, with or without the aid of prayer. So, once again, it appears that prayer does nothing.

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Mon 10/13/08 05:29 AM

the bible does not truly address this issue.
it is not important.


Not important says you?? The wife of Cain should simply be glossed over? Well seeing as the bible has MANY nameless female figures its not terribly surprising to me. Lot's wife was also unknown and then god turned her into a pillar of salt. grumble

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Mon 10/13/08 06:02 AM


the bible does not truly address this issue.
it is not important.


Not important says you?? The wife of Cain should simply be glossed over? Well seeing as the bible has MANY nameless female figures its not terribly surprising to me. Lot's wife was also unknown and then god turned her into a pillar of salt. grumble
probably God had good reason to turn her into salt. maybe she was a child abuser or hate monger!

Krimsa's photo
Mon 10/13/08 06:06 AM
Perhaps Lot's nameless wife was creating contradictory profiles online? One stating that she was from Egypt and another claiming she was from Tulsa, Oklahoma. Maybe she was also lying about her age? Hmm. I think perhaps you should look out dear sir or you might find yourself a babbling tower of Morton's. laugh

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Mon 10/13/08 06:12 AM

Perhaps Lot's nameless wife was creating contradictory profiles online? One stating that she was from Egypt and another claiming she was from Tulsa, Oklahoma. Maybe she was also lying about her age? Hmm. I think perhaps you should look out dear sir or you might find yourself a babbling tower of Morton's. laugh
whats wrong krimsa? does the truthe inspire your true side to reveal itself, oh guess not, you have to have a true side in order for it to reveal itself!

Krimsa's photo
Mon 10/13/08 06:15 AM


Perhaps Lot's nameless wife was creating contradictory profiles online? One stating that she was from Egypt and another claiming she was from Tulsa, Oklahoma. Maybe she was also lying about her age? Hmm. I think perhaps you should look out dear sir or you might find yourself a babbling tower of Morton's. laugh
whats wrong krimsa? does the truthe inspire your true side to reveal itself, oh guess not, you have to have a true side in order for it to reveal itself!


Explain how misleading people online via falsification of electronic profiles is demonstrating a "truthful side"? Wouldn't that in fact be the exact opposite of truth and integrity? Im afraid you lost me. How many beers have you had this morning?

tribo's photo
Mon 10/13/08 09:11 AM


that story or theory is as stale as the bible Morning song, find something new.

27 So God <0430> created <01254> (8799) man <0120> in his own image <06754>, in the image <06754> of God <0430> created <01254> (8804) he him; male <02145> and female <05347> created <01254> (8804) he them.


strongs man 0120 - can mean a man singular or mankind plural - in this case i believe its mankind plural not just speaking of A&E but of all mankind -if it was as everyone else says then explain to me where all the different feautures we see in all the worlds cultures came from? even at the beginning they would have only produced there kind meaning what ever color hair,skin,eyes,etc.. would have been the same or similiar - there were no jeans that would have produced off the bat from one gene source - red.black, brown,or other color hairs, no source from the First pair for that. of course you'll say well god can do anything, well you can believe that but show me the evidence please for what i'm stating please? not verses.

so my friend in my views All races were made at the start- for adam and eve it was different they were not spoken into being god actually formed them personally and seperated them and placed them in the garden, they were to be the chosen ones to bring forth the decendants that would lead to your christ. that is why the geneologies start with Cain and his wife [another race]be she black, brown, white,red,or yellow, and all his decendants and then seths lineage. if you want more truths let me know.
What's up Tribo?

I think That in Gen 1:26-27, "man" is mankind, male and female, cultures, races etc in the plural.

In Gen 2:5-7, this was "man" in the singular, The Man Adam, eth Ha Adam in Heb, created after the seventh day of Gods rest. The line through which Christ would come.

the sixth day creation of mankind are the ones Cain feared and found a wife among. The land of Nod Gen 4:16

Looks like we agreedrinker The first six chapters of Genesis say so much. Lots of people believe and are taught that Adam and Eve were the first two people and all of us came from them. Makes more sense when you know that "man" has more than one meaning and is used in plural and singular. Since "The Man Adam" was created after God rested on the 7th, that makes him an 8th day creation and "man" as used on the sixth day creation is plural being mankind,(males and females of different cultures and races and such). But that in not the way it is read or taught very often. Sixth and Eighth day creation, that doesn't go well with a lot of Christians either. It is how I read and understand those verses however.


well Sharp, it's probably as close as will ever get to agreeing on something - laugh

i looked at your theory[the 8th day thing] and you'll have to explain it to me, cause i don't see it as you at this point?

you can email it if you like - later sharp.