Topic: White Fright
adj4u's photo
Tue 10/14/08 05:59 AM




I don't think he's 100% black and he was however raised by his white grandparents. And because of this great country he went to some of the finest colleges in the world! He doesn't know how hard it really is being "black".shocked

Many great Black American leaders out there, unfortunately I just don't think Lord Obama is one of them. IMO of course.

I justify it because I just never could develop a taste for ACORN's.rofl


no one is 100% Black
and being raised by White grandparents is irrelevant
my great grandfather was Caucasian...

as for Obama knowing how hard it is being Black, I'm sure being a Black man he's had a lot of insight, since HE was BORN BLACK...

don't judge a book by it's cover........



"""and being raised by White grandparents is irrelevant"""

that is like say being a marine is irrelevant during a battle in a war

totally wrong

being raised in a white environment is not the same as being raised in a major black area such as harlem*

or any other major black community no matter what the financial background of those living there


I have lived in both and it isn't irrelevant
I am still a woman of color regardless of where I live or who raises me
and he doesn't come from money
check your facts


true it does not change color

it makes a difference in attitude

enderra's photo
Tue 10/14/08 06:42 AM





I don't think he's 100% black and he was however raised by his white grandparents. And because of this great country he went to some of the finest colleges in the world! He doesn't know how hard it really is being "black".shocked

Many great Black American leaders out there, unfortunately I just don't think Lord Obama is one of them. IMO of course.

I justify it because I just never could develop a taste for ACORN's.rofl


no one is 100% Black
and being raised by White grandparents is irrelevant
my great grandfather was Caucasian...

as for Obama knowing how hard it is being Black, I'm sure being a Black man he's had a lot of insight, since HE was BORN BLACK...

don't judge a book by it's cover........



"""and being raised by White grandparents is irrelevant"""

that is like say being a marine is irrelevant during a battle in a war

totally wrong

being raised in a white environment is not the same as being raised in a major black area such as harlem*

or any other major black community no matter what the financial background of those living there


I have lived in both and it isn't irrelevant
I am still a woman of color regardless of where I live or who raises me
and he doesn't come from money
check your facts


true it does not change color

it makes a difference in attitude

I guess you know cause you have been in so many black peoples shoes.

But seriously, I grew up in a upper-middle class all white area. For the most part I was treated like every other child, but on the occasions I wasn't I had not doubt that it was solely because of my race. Obama grew up with less and we are the same age and he is male, I have no doubts that once he walked out the door of his Grandmothers house his was just a little black boy.

Winx's photo
Tue 10/14/08 06:47 AM



I just can't wait until this election is over. It dosn't matter who we vote for, a turd will still be elected into office


I thought we were voting for your cat?:wink:

and the cat's an old white one..mmm lol


laugh Isn't she a girl?

adj4u's photo
Tue 10/14/08 06:50 AM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 10/14/08 06:51 AM






I don't think he's 100% black and he was however raised by his white grandparents. And because of this great country he went to some of the finest colleges in the world! He doesn't know how hard it really is being "black".shocked

Many great Black American leaders out there, unfortunately I just don't think Lord Obama is one of them. IMO of course.

I justify it because I just never could develop a taste for ACORN's.rofl


no one is 100% Black
and being raised by White grandparents is irrelevant
my great grandfather was Caucasian...

as for Obama knowing how hard it is being Black, I'm sure being a Black man he's had a lot of insight, since HE was BORN BLACK...

don't judge a book by it's cover........



"""and being raised by White grandparents is irrelevant"""

that is like say being a marine is irrelevant during a battle in a war

totally wrong

being raised in a white environment is not the same as being raised in a major black area such as harlem*

or any other major black community no matter what the financial background of those living there


I have lived in both and it isn't irrelevant
I am still a woman of color regardless of where I live or who raises me
and he doesn't come from money
check your facts


true it does not change color

it makes a difference in attitude

I guess you know cause you have been in so many black peoples shoes.

But seriously, I grew up in a upper-middle class all white area. For the most part I was treated like every other child, but on the occasions I wasn't I had not doubt that it was solely because of my race. Obama grew up with less and we are the same age and he is male, I have no doubts that once he walked out the door of his Grandmothers house his was just a little black boy.


i have been all over this country

i have talked to a lot of different people

and usually regardless of color those in an all one race setting are always more prejudicial than those in segregated areas

but there are always exceptions (not mentioning any namesnoway )

enderra's photo
Tue 10/14/08 07:08 AM







I don't think he's 100% black and he was however raised by his white grandparents. And because of this great country he went to some of the finest colleges in the world! He doesn't know how hard it really is being "black".shocked

Many great Black American leaders out there, unfortunately I just don't think Lord Obama is one of them. IMO of course.

I justify it because I just never could develop a taste for ACORN's.rofl


no one is 100% Black
and being raised by White grandparents is irrelevant
my great grandfather was Caucasian...

as for Obama knowing how hard it is being Black, I'm sure being a Black man he's had a lot of insight, since HE was BORN BLACK...

don't judge a book by it's cover........



"""and being raised by White grandparents is irrelevant"""

that is like say being a marine is irrelevant during a battle in a war

totally wrong

being raised in a white environment is not the same as being raised in a major black area such as harlem*

or any other major black community no matter what the financial background of those living there


I have lived in both and it isn't irrelevant
I am still a woman of color regardless of where I live or who raises me
and he doesn't come from money
check your facts


true it does not change color

it makes a difference in attitude

I guess you know cause you have been in so many black peoples shoes.

But seriously, I grew up in a upper-middle class all white area. For the most part I was treated like every other child, but on the occasions I wasn't I had not doubt that it was solely because of my race. Obama grew up with less and we are the same age and he is male, I have no doubts that once he walked out the door of his Grandmothers house his was just a little black boy.


i have been all over this country

i have talked to a lot of different people

and usually regardless of color those in an all one race setting are always more prejudicial than those in segregated areas

but there are always exceptions (not mentioning any namesnoway )
You are right that people that hide themselves away or are separated from those that are different than them are often more fearful and bigoted. But there are still those that talk a good game until they are behind closed doors. People who are educated and in power and use terms like "that One"

Winx's photo
Tue 10/14/08 07:10 AM
"That One".grumble grumble

adj4u's photo
Tue 10/14/08 07:10 AM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 10/14/08 07:13 AM


You are right that people that hide themselves away or are separated from those that are different than them are often more fearful and bigoted. But there are still those that talk a good game until they are behind closed doors. People who are educated and in power and use terms like "that One"



and they do not have to be hiding themselves away it is usually geographic with no choice of the child's

well i have to give you that one


no pun intended


flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou

enderra's photo
Tue 10/14/08 07:20 AM



You are right that people that hide themselves away or are separated from those that are different than them are often more fearful and bigoted. But there are still those that talk a good game until they are behind closed doors. People who are educated and in power and use terms like "that One"



and they do not have to be hiding themselves away it is usually geographic with no choice of the child's

well i have to give you that one


no pun intended


flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou
You know you want it.laugh flowers

adj4u's photo
Tue 10/14/08 07:24 AM




You are right that people that hide themselves away or are separated from those that are different than them are often more fearful and bigoted. But there are still those that talk a good game until they are behind closed doors. People who are educated and in power and use terms like "that One"



and they do not have to be hiding themselves away it is usually geographic with no choice of the child's

well i have to give you that one


no pun intended


flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou
You know you want it.laugh flowers



and what is

it

is that one of those hatred things like

that one

:wink: :wink:

flowerforyou

rofl rofl


enderra's photo
Tue 10/14/08 07:28 AM





You are right that people that hide themselves away or are separated from those that are different than them are often more fearful and bigoted. But there are still those that talk a good game until they are behind closed doors. People who are educated and in power and use terms like "that One"



and they do not have to be hiding themselves away it is usually geographic with no choice of the child's

well i have to give you that one


no pun intended


flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou
You know you want it.laugh flowers



and what is

it

is that one of those hatred things like

that one

:wink: :wink:

flowerforyou

rofl rofl


It
is the tussle
regardless of race creed or color!drinker drinker

no photo
Tue 10/14/08 10:47 AM







I don't think he's 100% black and he was however raised by his white grandparents. And because of this great country he went to some of the finest colleges in the world! He doesn't know how hard it really is being "black".shocked

Many great Black American leaders out there, unfortunately I just don't think Lord Obama is one of them. IMO of course.

I justify it because I just never could develop a taste for ACORN's.rofl


no one is 100% Black
and being raised by White grandparents is irrelevant
my great grandfather was Caucasian...

as for Obama knowing how hard it is being Black, I'm sure being a Black man he's had a lot of insight, since HE was BORN BLACK...

don't judge a book by it's cover........



"""and being raised by White grandparents is irrelevant"""

that is like say being a marine is irrelevant during a battle in a war

totally wrong

being raised in a white environment is not the same as being raised in a major black area such as harlem*

or any other major black community no matter what the financial background of those living there


I have lived in both and it isn't irrelevant
I am still a woman of color regardless of where I live or who raises me
and he doesn't come from money
check your facts


true it does not change color

it makes a difference in attitude

I guess you know cause you have been in so many black peoples shoes.

But seriously, I grew up in a upper-middle class all white area. For the most part I was treated like every other child, but on the occasions I wasn't I had not doubt that it was solely because of my race. Obama grew up with less and we are the same age and he is male, I have no doubts that once he walked out the door of his Grandmothers house his was just a little black boy.


i have been all over this country

i have talked to a lot of different people

and usually regardless of color those in an all one race setting are always more prejudicial than those in segregated areas

but there are always exceptions (not mentioning any namesnoway )


you can't be serious?!?

prejudice is a learned behavior as a child
it's a choice as an adult

Drivinmenutz's photo
Tue 10/14/08 10:53 AM








I don't think he's 100% black and he was however raised by his white grandparents. And because of this great country he went to some of the finest colleges in the world! He doesn't know how hard it really is being "black".shocked

Many great Black American leaders out there, unfortunately I just don't think Lord Obama is one of them. IMO of course.

I justify it because I just never could develop a taste for ACORN's.rofl


no one is 100% Black
and being raised by White grandparents is irrelevant
my great grandfather was Caucasian...

as for Obama knowing how hard it is being Black, I'm sure being a Black man he's had a lot of insight, since HE was BORN BLACK...

don't judge a book by it's cover........



"""and being raised by White grandparents is irrelevant"""

that is like say being a marine is irrelevant during a battle in a war

totally wrong

being raised in a white environment is not the same as being raised in a major black area such as harlem*

or any other major black community no matter what the financial background of those living there


I have lived in both and it isn't irrelevant
I am still a woman of color regardless of where I live or who raises me
and he doesn't come from money
check your facts


true it does not change color

it makes a difference in attitude

I guess you know cause you have been in so many black peoples shoes.

But seriously, I grew up in a upper-middle class all white area. For the most part I was treated like every other child, but on the occasions I wasn't I had not doubt that it was solely because of my race. Obama grew up with less and we are the same age and he is male, I have no doubts that once he walked out the door of his Grandmothers house his was just a little black boy.


i have been all over this country

i have talked to a lot of different people

and usually regardless of color those in an all one race setting are always more prejudicial than those in segregated areas

but there are always exceptions (not mentioning any namesnoway )


you can't be serious?!?

prejudice is a learned behavior as a child
it's a choice as an adult


What he was saying is that there is a greater chance of being prejudice when you grow up in an environment consisting of one race. Unknown = ignorance by definition. Prejudice is a form of ignorance. It doesn't matter what color your skin is, the tendency mentioned above is usually the case. But also as mentioned, since you can't apply mathmatics to exact human behavior, there are always exceptions.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 10/14/08 11:54 AM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Tue 10/14/08 11:56 AM






the statement that obama is black ifs false and misleading

that is reason enough not to vote for him

it has nothing to do with his 25% black heritage

it is the dishonesty of using it to try to push more people to vote for him


I don't think I have ever heard of him trying to use it to get more votes, and if we are using the historical measures that white people made for determining whether a person was black, namely one drop of blood or 1/16 of black blood made you black then he is black and if not then there are a whole lot of us running around calling ourselves black when we are in fact not. Can't have it both ways.
flowerforyou Enderra, He is suggesting that Barack is only 25% of a man.flowerforyou


I fail to see your logic...
happy I know what he REALLY means:smile: Ive seen this on the rightwing hate sites.:smile:


explain why that is a hate statement (not intended that way)

just a fact



huh Whats this 25% stuff mean then?huh You say that is not be your intentions,but.....huh

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 10/14/08 11:58 AM
flowerforyou Saying that someone is 25% this or 25% that is usually interpreted as rascist speech.(How do you know this anyway? Are you a genetic scientist/math wizard?)flowerforyou How the heck can someone be 25% something anyway? Either you are something or you are not:smile:

buffry's photo
Tue 10/14/08 12:00 PM

you dont understand the mind set because you are not white and have not been taught to fear black people..racism & bigotry, ironically, have no prejudices, they affect everyone equally...


I believe that some people have been soo brainwashed from birth they do not know anything else. It is a second nature...instinct, ya know? Not saying it is right, but some people are that way because they were raised to be.

enderra's photo
Tue 10/14/08 12:06 PM

flowerforyou Saying that someone is 25% this or 25% that is usually interpreted as rascist speech.(How do you know this anyway? Are you a genetic scientist/math wizard?)flowerforyou How the heck can someone be 25% something anyway? Either you are something or you are not:smile:
Mirror I had that dilemma today as I was taking my shower. I though now which part should I wash first, my white half or my black half and then it hit me, they are all mixed together and it is only other people that only see the obvious.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 10/14/08 12:13 PM


flowerforyou Saying that someone is 25% this or 25% that is usually interpreted as rascist speech.(How do you know this anyway? Are you a genetic scientist/math wizard?)flowerforyou How the heck can someone be 25% something anyway? Either you are something or you are not:smile:
Mirror I had that dilemma today as I was taking my shower. I though now which part should I wash first, my white half or my black half and then it hit me, they are all mixed together and it is only other people that only see the obvious.
flowers Well, everyone (in the world) is mixed(theres actually only one race,since we are all 100% biologically the same, but many ethnicities), and Im curious as to where the right wingers are getting these percentages from. I'd like to know what they consider "black",since they keep saying Obama isnt "black enough".flowersIm curious as to where they are getting their info from. flowers

enderra's photo
Tue 10/14/08 12:19 PM



flowerforyou Saying that someone is 25% this or 25% that is usually interpreted as rascist speech.(How do you know this anyway? Are you a genetic scientist/math wizard?)flowerforyou How the heck can someone be 25% something anyway? Either you are something or you are not:smile:
Mirror I had that dilemma today as I was taking my shower. I though now which part should I wash first, my white half or my black half and then it hit me, they are all mixed together and it is only other people that only see the obvious.
flowers Well, everyone (in the world) is mixed(theres actually only one race,since we are all 100% biologically the same, but many ethnicities), and Im curious as to where the right wingers are getting these percentages from. I'd like to know what they consider "black",since they keep saying Obama isnt "black enough".flowersIm curious as to where they are getting their info from. flowers
What I have seem from them is That he is half white from his mother, 1/4 African and 1/4 Arab from his father. which makes no sense to me.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 10/14/08 12:28 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Tue 10/14/08 12:31 PM




flowerforyou Saying that someone is 25% this or 25% that is usually interpreted as rascist speech.(How do you know this anyway? Are you a genetic scientist/math wizard?)flowerforyou How the heck can someone be 25% something anyway? Either you are something or you are not:smile:
Mirror I had that dilemma today as I was taking my shower. I though now which part should I wash first, my white half or my black half and then it hit me, they are all mixed together and it is only other people that only see the obvious.
flowers Well, everyone (in the world) is mixed(theres actually only one race,since we are all 100% biologically the same, but many ethnicities), and Im curious as to where the right wingers are getting these percentages from. I'd like to know what they consider "black",since they keep saying Obama isnt "black enough".flowersIm curious as to where they are getting their info from. flowers
What I have seem from them is That he is half white from his mother, 1/4 African and 1/4 Arab from his father. which makes no sense to me.
flowerforyou His dad is 100% east African.flowerforyouIve seen the pictures.flowerforyou Theres NO mistaking that his father was fully black-african.flowerforyouObama senior was pitch black.flowerforyouThe culture of that part of Africa has Arabic influences going back hundreds of years.flowerforyouThat is why these right wingers keep saying that Obama is Arab.flowerforyouIts just ignorance talking.flowerforyouAnyone that wants to know about Kenya should do a little research about east African culture.flowerforyou The cultures of east Africa have middle eastern and asian influences.flowerforyou

enderra's photo
Tue 10/14/08 12:35 PM





flowerforyou Saying that someone is 25% this or 25% that is usually interpreted as rascist speech.(How do you know this anyway? Are you a genetic scientist/math wizard?)flowerforyou How the heck can someone be 25% something anyway? Either you are something or you are not:smile:
Mirror I had that dilemma today as I was taking my shower. I though now which part should I wash first, my white half or my black half and then it hit me, they are all mixed together and it is only other people that only see the obvious.
flowers Well, everyone (in the world) is mixed(theres actually only one race,since we are all 100% biologically the same, but many ethnicities), and Im curious as to where the right wingers are getting these percentages from. I'd like to know what they consider "black",since they keep saying Obama isnt "black enough".flowersIm curious as to where they are getting their info from. flowers
What I have seem from them is That he is half white from his mother, 1/4 African and 1/4 Arab from his father. which makes no sense to me.
flowerforyou His dad is 100% east African.flowerforyouIve seen the pictures.flowerforyou Theres NO mistaking that his father was fully black-african.flowerforyouObama senior was pitch black.flowerforyouThe culture of that part of Africa has Arabic influences going back hundreds of years.flowerforyouThat is why these right wingers keep saying that Obama is Arab.flowerforyouIts just ignorance talking.flowerforyouAnyone that wants to know about Kenya should do a little research about east African culture.flowerforyou The cultures of east Africa have middle eastern and asian influences.flowerforyou
It is truly all just racist propaganda and the sad part is that Americans are, as a group so ignorant about the peoples from the rest of the world and their history. They eat up all this non-sense so they call have an excuse to be prejudice.