Nice... All else fails stick in an intimation I am lying (i.e 'They are just being stupid (if thats even true)in your statement above). I would have though that to be not your style.

Its true. It has happend to me several times (enough so that I know what is said after the hand touching)

I reckon you must be out of touch... Lots of people of color in the Rebublican party. Just not as many as you would find on a democratic ticket.

How is he using his race to get votes?Black people have been voting for white people ever since they could vote.

Okay, here it goes, I am going to post something that may open another can of worms but...oh well...I think it needs to be said.

In my experience, there are as many black people who harbor racist feelings as white people who do.

I have had political discussions with black friends and classmates in the past who have plainly stated that they would not vote for either candidate because they were the same in their eyes...old white men. In truth they didn't state it so politely but I don't want to get banned for repeating their verbiage.

Is that okay?

Is it okay to come out and vote for the first time for Obama because he is black? Or for Palin because she is a woman?

I have to say that as happy as I am to see both a black man and a woman in this race it makes me very unhappy to think anyone would cast a vote based solely on race or sex. To me that sort of thing is the height of ignorance and is as shameful an action as not voting for someone solely because of their race or sex.

So, is it okay? What do you all think?

Look man, I apoligize if it seemed like I was accusing you of lying.I actually think most of your opinions are thoughtful. There is not rascism coming out of the Obama campaign but the American people are seeing video of rascism coming out of republican events.This is a confirmed fact (its on tape).And pointing fingers back at others(who arnt actually being rascist) is a lame excuse (in my opinion).

Obama ain't using his race to get votes. The democratic party is using his race to get power.

Obama would make a good president after he gets some experiance... Like in four years or so. By then he may have made enough votes that I can be confident he ain't the tax monger he appears to be.

ok i will live with adventures answer

the party is doing the deed

that way obama keeps his hands clean

I have to disagree with you. The minorities are not as rascist as the majority. The statistics bear this out. Rascism is more than just words. Its a mindset and it is actions. Just because some white person hears a black person make a comment once or twice in their life means nothing. How would a person like to hear racial comments almost everyday from the time you are a kid until the day you die? Thats what its like being a minority.

How are they doing that?

Um lets see... Junior senator. Would not even be considered based on his record.

You are absolutely right there are a lot of blacks that harbor ill feeling towards whites. it is wrong, however, bare in mind how many times have you heard of a white man being beat up by a group of black police or shot 50 times in the back cause it looked like they were reaching for their wallet? To me the difference remains that whites in this country hold the power. It is not so hard for me to believe that a black person that has been beat down their whole life would be chomping at the bit for what they perceive as the ultimate office of power in this country. It may be ignorant be at least it makes some kind of logical sense, when compared to why whites wouldn't vote for a black.

He is a charismatic figure.There have been other charismatic figures in American politics.Being charismatic is not limited to any certain group of people.Its a personality trait and quite frankly Senator Obama is an over-achiever by nature.

Aye that he is.
And that would be another reason they are using him. Lots of people vote based on emotions rather than facts.

Your right rascism is not limited to any one color.But its a fact that white people have and do acted on this rascism more often.It doesnt mean all whites are rascist,just means that they have had the means of acting upon their feelings more often.

He also has an excellent education.He is an intellectual (something we have lacked in Bush). And he has a history of personal achievement. He succeeeds in his life more often than he fails.I kind alike that. He has a history of being a winner.Thats very different than what we have had in President Bush.

And that makes some people resent him even more, I bet. He just can't be easily dismissed and made marginal, like Jackson.

Hey, Adj4u, I apoligize for coming across a little too strong sometimes. Im just trying to get to the bottom of some of this stuff and I have talked to so many right wingers that have said crazy stuff(about these issues) that I have come to expect it from them. I apoligize if I seem to be projecting this onto you.

Yeah. And thats not necessarily a racial issue(its more of a class issue).The working class and lower classes have always been resentful of the intellectual class (in every society). Yet they (hope to)send their children to college lol

Ok already! I am "that guy"! I just can't do it!

If he would undergo some treatment similar to Michael Jackson, I might reconsider.


On a more serious note, Would you rather them them lie to you? Honesty has to count for something. One can't fix a problem, if they don't first acknowledge that they have a problem. In order to have this problem, one must participate in several acts just as this before they can see some kind of pattern which might lead them to believe they actually have a problem. Then and only then when they acknowledge that in fact, a problem does exist, can they proceed to try and correct it. It's all a part of a healing process. Surely Obama can sacrifice a few votes for the greater good of helping fellow Americans recover form the illnesses some of them suffer from. A small price to pay for a far greater reward than being President.

Next Question.

Well, Thomas I hope you do go seek treatment for your racism, so sad that someone so young has this disgusting, disgraceful, and disfiguring disease. for your are truly an ugly man. So you will have to bow down to the Black man, Amon

Thank your for you kind words!

There was a bit of sarcasm in there, but I guess you just read to Michael.

Is this not the way racism stays alive? Once a comment is made, something far uglier is thrown back at you. Ugly man I am not, for know nothing about the kind of person I truly am. Whatever happen to love thy neighbor? Forgive us of our trespasses, AS we forgive those who trespass against us? Two wrongs will never make a right.

Best wishes to you in your journey!

Thomas