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Topic: Who Predicted U.S. Economic Collapse One Year Ago?
warmachine Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 4528	Tue 09/30/08 04:21 AM Edited by warmachine on Tue 09/30/08 04:22 AM
Who Predicted U.S. Economic Collapse One Year Ago? AFP Monday, Sept 29, 2008 Though many U.S. economists now say a recession is upon us, or soon will be, Ron Paul predicted current economic problems years ago. Unfortunately, few in the government listened, and nothing was done. If you still believe that the United States will be a world superpower forever, or that the U.S. dollar will always be strong, you may want to sit down before watching these videos. If Ron Paul’s predictions continue to be right — and if U.S. leaders continue to ignore him — the United States is in for one bumpy ride. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04B3Wl2qouw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d73KlhUq1W8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZwPkTmqfpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlgByE1jDRA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ticytEUvVhQ -------------------------------------------------- Actually this has been a hot button issue for him for a much longer period of time, than one year. When he stood up and spoke about why we should be careful before invading Iraq, he spoke about a coming economic crisis.

markc48 Joined Wed 05/07/08 Posts: 5536	Tue 09/30/08 05:24 AM
All the more reason we need to get it over or get out of Iraq.

Moondark Joined Tue 11/27/07 Posts: 5866	Tue 09/30/08 05:31 AM
So, Warren Buffet predicted it 5 years ago.

SuzinVA Joined Wed 04/25/07 Posts: 28730	Tue 09/30/08 05:39 AM
Anyone who lives in the real world could have predicted this.

arkdanimal Joined Wed 08/27/08 Posts: 667	Tue 09/30/08 05:44 AM
My economic collapse occured 25 years ago, major surjury, 4 days in ICU, another 7 days in the hospital, no medical insurance. So this really won't effect me much. It's interesting to watch all the finger-pointing!

AdventureBegins Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 7666	Tue 09/30/08 07:45 AM
I really don't care who predicted it. Several have stood up out of their prefered position in the muck to claim this 'honor'. What I care about is who is going to be honest about what faces us now. I am not going to vote some idiot into office as MY president if he does not have: 1. A FIRM grip on reality. 2. The courage to stand up in front of America and tell us the truth about his plans... and how much they are going to need to be changed in light of current events. 3. The courage to stand up to all of the posturing from his/her party. 4. The courage to tell me what he/she needs from me and ask me to help... 5. The brains to know what we need to do next and the ability to explaine it to me so that I WANT to help. and since I ain't a sheep he/she had better be up front and abosolutly right on the money.

wouldee Joined Sun 10/07/07 Posts: 5335	Tue 09/30/08 08:58 AM
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/07/subprime-overview.asp?viewall=1 http://www.youtube.com/index?&ytsession=cdyHzWP-NP3hzO3piwjLucdUquKyD8Csy8-q1py9IQpKg602oxfWW6bibMPxn7VBkkF9N52F5pMACtOmctAt2FUZoMrSMdfeqJg9vu2sC2tgnEDROFB988l18_SCBeDn-zQ-reu8yDES7XC6EP2A6R9yq0zb7ppkcRb9nRO8rPJSzSeBYyggIC8_FcUaja1sFhkOugfhGFBSJq3BRqQNHyVGB4JiynPKUb40ARhg0x8uQH9IOqJFtFWdcyKrjGwq this one is censored from US markets but is online in England. It will lead to homework. --------------------------------------------------- this one and the related links will take all day to dowload into your soul. GOT TIME???????????????????? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Tue 09/30/08 09:44 AM
Good post woodee..Dont have time right now to go thru it all but will..

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Tue 09/30/08 10:11 AM
Ron Paul is awsome, its not even that he figures this out, it's that he tries to make this all public. People need to start listening to the man. But instead people vote McBama or McSame because they either want to remain faithful to their party, or they believe foolishly that one is different from the other. The shadow government needs exposure. Elected officials need to secure the value of our dollar, not some unconstitutional comittee of nonelected personel. We shold start paying closer attention to our state senators, and representatives. Do not vote for anyone that agrees with this system. Don't vote for anyone backing this overspending of the government. The presidents are chosen by the electoral college. The electoral college needs to be kept in check.

wouldee Joined Sun 10/07/07 Posts: 5335	Tue 09/30/08 01:02 PM
true. the shadow government isn't even a government. It is the Federal Reserve Bank. The member banks call the cycles, call the plays, and honor what suits their purpose. Enough of us lobbied Washington and the bailout failed. Now the mainstream media is touching the meat of the problem. We will never clear the federal deficit. It is beyond clearing now. Repeal the Act of 1913.... It was legislated during recess in December by three present legislators and a quorum was established by default to send it to the President for approval. It started there and the removal of a gold standard in 1971 allowed these bankers to leverage credit out of thin air. Until then, they had leveraged the gold by a factor of 12. They make nothing but money and the currency is theirs, not the country's. The debt is the country's according to thaT CURRENCY AND THE ASSUMPTIONS GIVEN THAT CURRENCY. Repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and establish a new currency backed by the economic engine of the USA. Simple. Abolish the IRS and flat tax every dime of earned and unearned income, but let the Taxpayers be the Bank, and not the bankers. A real S&L for and of and by the USA. Both Madison and Jefferson would rejoice at such a thing. Madison framed most of the Constitution with this in mind. We took up "all men are created equal" and removed the shamefulness of slavery. That debate was ongoing from the start and accelerated in public support and will to remedy by 1841. We can do this with our banking structure, too. Neither a borrower or a lender be. No more bailouts and no more government programs because all they serve to do is anger and dismay and confuse and distract us citizens from the usury strangling this nation, and that usury is the Federal Reserve Bank and their member banks and their major stockholders. It is that simple. And they are profiting by this bubble, if you haven't noticed. All in all, the rich get richer and we get dumber and dumber. Like being played? Then keep up the partisan hatreds and tug of wars. No more bailouts, the market didn't crash today, it rose. Stop putting in sell orders to your 401k managers and the downsides will diminish. Smart money buys on the dip. The dip is nervous pension holders triggering sell orders more than anything. In 1980, 5% of the populous was invested in the stock market. Today 50% of Americans are. See it? Throw them all out. Even if obama wins, he will have a message sent by the people that incumbants are going to disappear every two years until they are all gone. We stopped the bailout by flooding Washington with dissent and reason and did so enmass. Keep it up and there won't be a bailout, but a witness of the perpetrators falling down and exposing their over leveraging. Meanwhile, the bankers are buying up the distressed assets for pennies on the dollar and they know that is a windfall for them. Where is our windfall? When the wind blows them down and they fall? LOL people. Pelosi's words are a dry snitch.

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 2998	Tue 09/30/08 01:20 PM
Will the real fortune teller please stand up! GEEZ! There were many people who were predicting this...McCain was one of them along with BUSH. DEMS like Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, & Barney Franks were outraged at the thought. It's all on tape. I heard them with my own two ears. So tell me again why is anyone voting for these lying DEMS in the election & why are they still pointing their greedy little self serving fingers at BUSH & the REPS? More so is why do people believe them?

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Tue 09/30/08 01:52 PM
Hey thanks for those vids BTW wouldee. Good info.

warmachine Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 4528	Tue 09/30/08 02:09 PM
Will the real fortune teller please stand up! GEEZ! There were many people who were predicting this...McCain was one of them along with BUSH. DEMS like Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, & Barney Franks were outraged at the thought. It's all on tape. I heard them with my own two ears. So tell me again why is anyone voting for these lying DEMS in the election & why are they still pointing their greedy little self serving fingers at BUSH & the REPS? More so is why do people believe them? First, It's good to see Ole Wouldee back in action! The point is, Dr. Paul has been doing it for more than 5 years, that I know of, since before the invasion of the Iraq war, but instead of listening to him, he was laughed at, ridiculed, called fringe and marginilized by the MSM. Who's fringe now?

warmachine Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 4528	Tue 09/30/08 02:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jMRt1AwBDk *Ron Paul on CNN*

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 2998	Tue 09/30/08 03:38 PM
So tell me...what does your hero Ron Paul propose to do about the war on terror? Which is widespread around the world I might add?

talldub Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 2629	Tue 09/30/08 03:45 PM
Anyone who lives in the real world could have predicted this. Anyone who lives in the real world and has half a brain could have predicted this.

AdventureBegins Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 7666	Tue 09/30/08 05:10 PM
So tell me...what does your hero Ron Paul propose to do about the war on terror? Which is widespread around the world I might add? If he tells you you won't believe it. go find out. It is all over the internet. The man has a lot of GOOD ideas. and absolutly no support from the parties in power.

t22learner Joined Mon 07/02/07 Posts: 1774	Tue 09/30/08 05:17 PM
and absolutly no support from the parties in power. I was going to ask War, but AB, chime in... Why does the Republican establishment spurn Paul?

talldub Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 2629	Tue 09/30/08 05:25 PM
So tell me...what does your hero Ron Paul propose to do about the war on terror? Which is widespread around the world I might add? If he tells you you won't believe it. go find out. It is all over the internet. The man has a lot of GOOD ideas. and absolutly no support from the parties in power. Chris Rock also has some great ideas but even less support!

AdventureBegins Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 7666	Tue 09/30/08 05:32 PM
and absolutly no support from the parties in power. I was going to ask War, but AB, chime in... Why does the Republican establishment spurn Paul? Cause he don't play ball by their rules... He speaks out against them when the do something rash. No matter what their political party. He will stand up for a dem or a repub when they do something right. Even when others do not.