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Edited by
Plainome
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Sun 09/21/08 02:01 PM
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Looks like we were all posting at the same time, 
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Edited by
Jess642
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Sun 09/21/08 02:07 PM
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Go past thought James.... in a calm and almost medititive state, allow your thoughts to go wherever they choose, however, not from a position of the thinker of these thoughts, but the observer of these thoughts, no attachment to them, as if they were frivolous butterflies flitting past, seen but not caught.....
Sustaining this observer place... eventually the kittenish craziness of thought slows, the freneticness of it all relaxes, and with a little shock one realizes they have been... BEING... not thinking... and of course the giggles start, cause now you are thinking about where you just were, and have to do the whole thing again... Just like anything... with a little practise it become a part of you, with no thought, or wrestling with oneself to get back to that place. Being Nothing... is really being part of everything. 
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Looks like we were all posting at the same time, How funny!!! ANd with exactly the same message... how hilarious is this...? Hey James what is one up from Stereo? Cause that is what we are posting in... |
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(I haven't figured out how to quote only parts of a post, and advice??) Just delete the parts you don't want to quote. Then place a {quote} tag before the parts you want to quote, and a {/quote} tag at the end of that text. Only use square brackets instead of the curly ones. You can quote anything you want It can even be something you just now typed. |
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Edited by
Plainome
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Sun 09/21/08 02:51 PM
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Kewl, thx. Just like anything... with a little practise it become a part of you, with no thought, or wrestling with oneself to get back to that place. Being Nothing... is really being part of everything. Exactly.........thx for the reminder.......I've been missing it. Too many thoughts distracting me. |
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Edited by
Abracadabra
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Sun 09/21/08 03:09 PM
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Just some more on formatting posts.
You underline text using {u}text{/u} Or bold text using {b}text{/b} Or italicize text using {i}text{/i} Just use square brackets, no spaces inside the tags, and always use lowercase letters they won't work with uppercase letters. Also, always remember to end what you start with a closing tag. otherwise the whole rest of your post will look like crap with bold underlined words than never end,.... |
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A psychiatrist I know told me that 75% of everyday human behavior comes from the subconscious.
I wish I could learn an effective way to meditate, my mind is much to busy ALL the time. |
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A psychiatrist I know told me that 75% of everyday human behavior comes from the subconscious. I wish I could learn an effective way to meditate, my mind is much to busy ALL the time. Well, like Jess Lee suggested, practice is the key. It's just like anything else. If you want to learn to play an instrument you need to practice. If you want to get good at a sport or craft, you need to practice. If you want to gain control over you mind you need to practice. A good way to start is to learn to meditate. This quiets the mind and makes it easier to control it. At one point in my life I was pretty deep into meditation. For about 3 years I lived very close to nature and meditated a lot. I was into gardening, nature photography. I had horses, I kept bees, I even used to make my own bread twice a week. I never listed to the radio or television. Once in while I would listen to non-vocal mood music (often times oriental music). I did think though. I studied math and physics. I just love intellectual thought and logic. I would never give those things up. Anyway, getting to my point,... At the end of those 3 years I things changed and I had no choice but to get back into the 'rat race'. When I went back to work in the real world everyone appeared to be on 'fast-forward'. They sounded like a 33 rpm record played at 78 rpm. (that may not mean much to you in this day and age I guess. ) It took me a while to get 'wound-up' again. Human societies truly are a rat race, there's no question about it. It's hard to calm your mind when living within one. Especially if you watch TV and listen to radio all the time. Those things are just driving your mind into overtime. |
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A psychiatrist I know told me that 75% of everyday human behavior comes from the subconscious. I wish I could learn an effective way to meditate, my mind is much to busy ALL the time. Well, like Jess Lee suggested, practice is the key. It's just like anything else. If you want to learn to play an instrument you need to practice. If you want to get good at a sport or craft, you need to practice. If you want to gain control over you mind you need to practice. A good way to start is to learn to meditate. This quiets the mind and makes it easier to control it. At one point in my life I was pretty deep into meditation. For about 3 years I lived very close to nature and meditated a lot. I was into gardening, nature photography. I had horses, I kept bees, I even used to make my own bread twice a week. I never listed to the radio or television. Once in while I would listen to non-vocal mood music (often times oriental music). I did think though. I studied math and physics. I just love intellectual thought and logic. I would never give those things up. Anyway, getting to my point,... At the end of those 3 years I things changed and I had no choice but to get back into the 'rat race'. When I went back to work in the real world everyone appeared to be on 'fast-forward'. They sounded like a 33 rpm record played at 78 rpm. (that may not mean much to you in this day and age I guess. ) It took me a while to get 'wound-up' again. Human societies truly are a rat race, there's no question about it. It's hard to calm your mind when living within one. Especially if you watch TV and listen to radio all the time. Those things are just driving your mind into overtime. I'd like to add to this if I could. Meditation/prayer can be the same thing.....if ur prayers are not "asking" for things, but simply reflecting for a while. I never used to "meditate" but as I was "Christian" at the time I prayed a lot. Most of it was for the souls of others........yeah yeah, but anyhoo. When I felt sadness or grief I would allow it to fill me, and then I'd release it in prayer........ To let an emotion fill you and then release it......seems to naturally bring about a calmness......especially when tears are shed (releasing oxytocin and all that good stuff). A good way for me, was to be filled with compassion for someone........to genuinely care for them, and "feel" for them.......... Somehow in the process I forgot about "me" and got caught up in just "being". For some they must first work through the feelings before they get to the "still" place. Now, I can get there quite easily, when I choose to............but that is the path that helped me learn how to do it. (Hope this helps) |
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Edited by
The_Pete_Man
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Sun 09/21/08 04:05 PM
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I don't watch TV or listen to the radio much at all. My mind has been chatteringly overactive since I was a toddler. The rat race doesn't help, either.
One of the only times I ever felt de-stressed was riding a horse in The Rockies in Montana 16 years ago. |
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"Here we enter a state of being that has nothing to do with thought. It is neither conscious, nor subconscious. It's totally outside of the realm of thought altogether. It's a state of pure being without having anything to do with thinking at all. It's a state of pure emotion without any analytical process of thought required." That is what I call the "nothing"..........not sure if Jess would agree.....but that is what it is for/to me. It is as you said, simply being. (I haven't figured out how to quote only parts of a post, and advice??) Yeah... It's a state of no definition. Oops... Was that a definition?   
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sun 09/21/08 06:31 PM
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Here we enter a state of being that has nothing to do with thought. It is neither conscious, nor subconscious. It's totally outside of the realm of thought altogether. It's a state of pure being without having anything to do with thinking at all. It's a state of pure emotion without any analytical process of thought required. This state I would call "being." And it is similar to "nothing" because all that seems to exist the "self" and nothing else. The mind is "entered into" by the self, and there "thought" emerges as a sorting process which manages memory and experience and information. All memory and experience and information is collected and stored. This is the "sub-conscious." The subconscious contains all information. It exists 'between' our little selves (incarnated on the physical plane) and our higher or true self, existing in its own state of being beyond space-time. To access the higher self, you must journey through the subconscious. You are directly connected to the higher self so you can't get lost, just don't get too distracted. (There are all things real and imagined in the subconscious) But there is alway a connection to the higher or true self. Just focus on gratitude, love, compassion and have faith. You are never alone. That is my mindset anyway. It works for me. |
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Mon 09/22/08 09:20 AM
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JB:
The subconscious contains all information. It exists 'between' our little selves (incarnated on the physical plane) and our higher or true self, existing in its own state of being beyond space-time. Yes, indeed... The subconscious is that etherial umbilical chord carrying in it / containing within it and connecting ALL "nutrients" and information from our higher or true selves to our mortal selves (and visa versa). Our mortal selves serve great purpose for our higher selves as well. |
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in scientology they call then emgrams, and they accsess them through autiting. i'm not a scientologist, but i lived with one for 10 years |
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JB: The subconscious contains all information. It exists 'between' our little selves (incarnated on the physical plane) and our higher or true self, existing in its own state of being beyond space-time. Yes, indeed... The subconscious is that etherial umbilical chord carrying in it / containing within it and connecting ALL "nutrients" and information from our higher or true selves to our mortal selves (and visa versa). Our mortal selves serve great purpose for our higher selves as well. In my opinion, "the subconscious" is nothing but "hidden or forgotten perceptions, decisions and thought processes". There's nothing "etherial" or "higher" about it. Other than the fact that it's unseen, it's no different from the "conscious mind". The whole "mystery" behind it is only that it is not visible. And the fact that it appears to "make decisions on it's own" is only because we can't see (and thus don't understand) the "thought processes" it employs like we can with the conscious mind. |
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in scientology they call then emgrams, and they accsess them through autiting. i'm not a scientologist, but i lived with one for 10 years EMDR will briefly "visit" a past point in time of pain and some degree of subsequent unconsciousness (specific to the individual) and shift the energy surrounding or perception of the triggering event. |
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JB: The subconscious contains all information. It exists 'between' our little selves (incarnated on the physical plane) and our higher or true self, existing in its own state of being beyond space-time. Yes, indeed... The subconscious is that etherial umbilical chord carrying in it / containing within it and connecting ALL "nutrients" and information from our higher or true selves to our mortal selves (and visa versa). Our mortal selves serve great purpose for our higher selves as well. In my opinion, "the subconscious" is nothing but "hidden or forgotten perceptions, decisions and thought processes". There's nothing "etherial" or "higher" about it. Other than the fact that it's unseen, it's no different from the "conscious mind". The whole "mystery" behind it is only that it is not visible. And the fact that it appears to "make decisions on it's own" is only because we can't see (and thus don't understand) the "thought processes" it employs like we can with the conscious mind. Yes... At one time, I whole-heartedly shared this opinion. Since experiencing the "awakening" triggered by an EMDR session in '94, I've known there has to be much more to the connection provided by/through the subconscious. |
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in scientology they call then emgrams, and they accsess them through autiting. According to that brief description of EMDR, it does not address engrams. An "engram", as defined in Dianetics, is "a period of pain and unconciousness", which is completely different from what is being addressed in EMDR.i'm not a scientologist, but i lived with one for 10 years |
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Mon 09/22/08 10:44 AM
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This "experience" (which went far beyond the EMDR itself) awakened me to my own potential for resplendent harmony and encouraged me to move out of the pain I identified as me and closer to the reality of all things (both "good" and "bad") working together perfectly for the highest good of ALL.
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Mon 09/22/08 10:45 AM
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This "experience" (which went far beyond the EMDR itself) awakened me to my own potential for resplendent harmony and encouraged me to move out of the pain I identified as me and closer to the reality of all things (both "good" and "bad") working together perfectly for the highest good of ALL. Is this God? It is to me. |
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