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Oh gosh, I meant "articulating skeleton" not matriculating skeletal remains. Ha! Yes all of my skeletons go to college and receive 4 year degrees of course.
 
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Thank you. I will do that. Hopefully I wont be stoned for it either.  I have some foam rocks I can throw at you. |
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Study: Humans, Neanderthals not related
Source: Chicago Tribune Newspaper, 29 Mar 2000: BRITAIN: Modern humans are not descended from Neanderthals but coexisted with them about 40,000 years ago, scientists said Tuesday An analysis of DNA extracted from the ribs of a 29,000-year-old Neanderthal infant buried in a cave in southern Russia showed it was too distinct to be related to humans. "There Wasn't much, if any mixture, between Neanderthals and modern humans," said William Goodwin, of the University of Glasgow "Though they coexisted we can't find any evidence of genetic material being passed from Neanderthals to modern humans." The study reported in the science journal Nature, also supports the "Out of Africa" theory of modem human evolution-- that modern humans evolved from a common ancestor in Africa and spread across the world around 100,000 years ago. DNA comparisons also showed that different ethnic groups do not have any links to Neanderthals, Goodwin said. |
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Yepper. Divergent. So are you now a proponent of evolutionary theory sharp? Why post this?
 Or now are you going to post some conflicting data? 
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 According to my research, long ago, during the Neolithic time period, an alien race we call the Draco used humans for food source and slave labor, and organized humans into advanced societies that practice equality of genders and worshiped the Draco Queen as their mother goddess.
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Yepper. Divergent. So are you now a proponent of evolutionary theory sharp? Why post this? Or now are you going to post some conflicting data? whats up, back in a bit, just spilled drink on my keyboard 
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According to my research, long ago, during the Neolithic time period, an alien race we call the Draco used humans for food source and slave labor, and organized humans into advanced societies that practice equality of genders and worshiped the Draco Queen as their mother goddess. 
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Yepper. Divergent. So are you now a proponent of evolutionary theory sharp? Why post this? Or now are you going to post some conflicting data? whats up, back in a bit, just spilled drink on my keyboard Yes it is very interesting. Scroll up a bit. I posted the exact same data only a different bone sample. A 38,000 year old humorous referred to as "v-80" found in Croatia. They are in the process of sequencing the entire Neanderthal genome as we speak. They are over 1 million base pairs as of now. The entire sequence will be 3 million give or take. The same findings however. Divergent. We co-existed with Neanderthal but they were a dead end. They were not homo sapien. Unless of course, god, made several attempts at creating humans?
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According to my research, long ago, during the Neolithic time period, an alien race we call the Draco used humans for food source and slave labor, and organized humans into advanced societies that practice equality of genders and worshiped the Draco Queen as their mother goddess.  hey
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Environmental mutation...?
Spontaneous mutation...? We are a genitic offshoot of the Pig! Noooo... We were planted here to colonize earth in the name of some forgotten ancient race of super beings... Or perhaps... We just morphed from thin air... By our own choice... Who really cares... We are here... Enjoy it while it is ours to enjoy. |
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Well some people find it interesting. I like bones, always have so that sparked my interest in the origins of life and then one thing led to another. Evolutionary theory kind of pulls you in. Some people anyway.
 Maybe you just need to be predisposed to have an interest in it. 
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Tue 10/14/08 05:05 AM
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Sharp there is also a slight possibility that homo sapiens actually did breed with Neanderthals and created hybrids. That seems to be where the debate lies now since the DNA clearly indicates a divergence, yet they are still very close. I watched a show on the National Geographic channel a few weeks ago that proves this can occur with varying species of baboon from different areas of the world. They are distinct yet hybridization is possible and they will breed when put together in captivity. This might have taken place when homo sapien encountered Neanderthal. Sure they weren't pretty but EVERYONE was dirty and smelly back then and sex is fun of course and its a natural drive. There are many reasons why this probably did not take place successfully however. One of the most plausible explanations I have heard is a very common sense one. Neanderthals were big, bulky things with large heads. The homo sapien looked like us today, tall, lean and much more slight of build. So even if they mated it would have been nearly impossible for a slimmer homo sapien female to give birth to a Neanderthal baby. Now a Neanderthal female, might have easily given birth to a hybrid so...maybe?
 "We can, however, make some suggestions based on work in contemporary zones of hybridization, especially the Awash anubis-hamadryas hybrid zone. For example, we can conclude that unless an undocumented, radical genetic event occurred in the 600 ka since they shared mtDNA ancestry with the Neandertals, premodern humans were certainly able to interbreed with them and produce viable, fertile, offspring, as hamadryas and anubis baboons do (Jolly 2001:198)." |
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Sharp there is also a slight possibility that homo sapiens actually did breed with Neanderthals and created hybrids. That seems to be where the debate lies now since the DNA clearly indicates a divergence, yet they are still very close. I watched a show on the National Geographic channel a few weeks ago that proves this can occur with varying species of baboon from different areas of the world. They are distinct yet hybridization is possible and they will breed when put together in captivity. This might have taken place when homo sapien encountered Neanderthal. Sure they weren't pretty but EVERYONE was dirty and smelly back then and sex is fun of course and its a natural drive. There are many reasons why this probably did not take place successfully however. One of the most plausible explanations I have heard is a very common sense one. Neanderthals were big, bulky things with large heads. The homo sapien looked like us today, tall, lean and much more slight of build. So even if they mated it would have been nearly impossible for a slimmer homo sapien female to give birth to a Neanderthal baby. Now a Neanderthal female, might have easily given birth to a hybrid so...maybe? "We can, however, make some suggestions based on work in contemporary zones of hybridization, especially the Awash anubis-hamadryas hybrid zone. For example, we can conclude that unless an undocumented, radical genetic event occurred in the 600 ka since they shared mtDNA ancestry with the Neandertals, premodern humans were certainly able to interbreed with them and produce viable, fertile, offspring, as hamadryas and anubis baboons do (Jolly 2001:198)." AHA  Theres some of that prehistoric-anthropological conjecture we have become accustomed to from our distinguished Ms.Krimsa.
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Sharp there is also a slight possibility that homo sapiens actually did breed with Neanderthals and created hybrids. That seems to be where the debate lies now since the DNA clearly indicates a divergence, yet they are still very close. I watched a show on the National Geographic channel a few weeks ago that proves this can occur with varying species of baboon from different areas of the world. They are distinct yet hybridization is possible and they will breed when put together in captivity. This might have taken place when homo sapien encountered Neanderthal. Sure they weren't pretty but EVERYONE was dirty and smelly back then and sex is fun of course and its a natural drive. There are many reasons why this probably did not take place successfully however. One of the most plausible explanations I have heard is a very common sense one. Neanderthals were big, bulky things with large heads. The homo sapien looked like us today, tall, lean and much more slight of build. So even if they mated it would have been nearly impossible for a slimmer homo sapien female to give birth to a Neanderthal baby. Now a Neanderthal female, might have easily given birth to a hybrid so...maybe? "We can, however, make some suggestions based on work in contemporary zones of hybridization, especially the Awash anubis-hamadryas hybrid zone. For example, we can conclude that unless an undocumented, radical genetic event occurred in the 600 ka since they shared mtDNA ancestry with the Neandertals, premodern humans were certainly able to interbreed with them and produce viable, fertile, offspring, as hamadryas and anubis baboons do (Jolly 2001:198)." AHA Theres some of that prehistoric-anthropological conjecture we have become accustomed to from our distinguished Ms.Krimsa. Oh yeah, and your "Draco" theory. Thats a winner. Feel free to elaborate. The floor is yours.
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Sharp there is also a slight possibility that homo sapiens actually did breed with Neanderthals and created hybrids. That seems to be where the debate lies now since the DNA clearly indicates a divergence, yet they are still very close. I watched a show on the National Geographic channel a few weeks ago that proves this can occur with varying species of baboon from different areas of the world. They are distinct yet hybridization is possible and they will breed when put together in captivity. This might have taken place when homo sapien encountered Neanderthal. Sure they weren't pretty but EVERYONE was dirty and smelly back then and sex is fun of course and its a natural drive. There are many reasons why this probably did not take place successfully however. One of the most plausible explanations I have heard is a very common sense one. Neanderthals were big, bulky things with large heads. The homo sapien looked like us today, tall, lean and much more slight of build. So even if they mated it would have been nearly impossible for a slimmer homo sapien female to give birth to a Neanderthal baby. Now a Neanderthal female, might have easily given birth to a hybrid so...maybe? "We can, however, make some suggestions based on work in contemporary zones of hybridization, especially the Awash anubis-hamadryas hybrid zone. For example, we can conclude that unless an undocumented, radical genetic event occurred in the 600 ka since they shared mtDNA ancestry with the Neandertals, premodern humans were certainly able to interbreed with them and produce viable, fertile, offspring, as hamadryas and anubis baboons do (Jolly 2001:198)." AHA Theres some of that prehistoric-anthropological conjecture we have become accustomed to from our distinguished Ms.Krimsa. Oh yeah, and your "Draco" theory. Thats a winner. Feel free to elaborate. The floor is yours. Thats not my theory. The Draco/alien origin theory belongs to somebody else on here. And I wasnt criticizing your theories Krimsa.
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Sharp there is also a slight possibility that homo sapiens actually did breed with Neanderthals and created hybrids. That seems to be where the debate lies now since the DNA clearly indicates a divergence, yet they are still very close. I watched a show on the National Geographic channel a few weeks ago that proves this can occur with varying species of baboon from different areas of the world. They are distinct yet hybridization is possible and they will breed when put together in captivity. This might have taken place when homo sapien encountered Neanderthal. Sure they weren't pretty but EVERYONE was dirty and smelly back then and sex is fun of course and its a natural drive. There are many reasons why this probably did not take place successfully however. One of the most plausible explanations I have heard is a very common sense one. Neanderthals were big, bulky things with large heads. The homo sapien looked like us today, tall, lean and much more slight of build. So even if they mated it would have been nearly impossible for a slimmer homo sapien female to give birth to a Neanderthal baby. Now a Neanderthal female, might have easily given birth to a hybrid so...maybe? "We can, however, make some suggestions based on work in contemporary zones of hybridization, especially the Awash anubis-hamadryas hybrid zone. For example, we can conclude that unless an undocumented, radical genetic event occurred in the 600 ka since they shared mtDNA ancestry with the Neandertals, premodern humans were certainly able to interbreed with them and produce viable, fertile, offspring, as hamadryas and anubis baboons do (Jolly 2001:198)." AHA Theres some of that prehistoric-anthropological conjecture we have become accustomed to from our distinguished Ms.Krimsa. Oh yeah, and your "Draco" theory. Thats a winner. Feel free to elaborate. The floor is yours. Thats not my theory. The Draco/alien origin theory belongs to somebody else on here. And I wasnt criticizing your theories Krimsa. I know. Im just kidding. Yes its conjecture but not my conjecture. There are two schools of thought on this. Either the Neanderthals did not interbreed or they did. Clearly they were capable. Well not clearly but probably.
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Sharp there is also a slight possibility that homo sapiens actually did breed with Neanderthals and created hybrids. That seems to be where the debate lies now since the DNA clearly indicates a divergence, yet they are still very close. I watched a show on the National Geographic channel a few weeks ago that proves this can occur with varying species of baboon from different areas of the world. They are distinct yet hybridization is possible and they will breed when put together in captivity. This might have taken place when homo sapien encountered Neanderthal. Sure they weren't pretty but EVERYONE was dirty and smelly back then and sex is fun of course and its a natural drive. There are many reasons why this probably did not take place successfully however. One of the most plausible explanations I have heard is a very common sense one. Neanderthals were big, bulky things with large heads. The homo sapien looked like us today, tall, lean and much more slight of build. So even if they mated it would have been nearly impossible for a slimmer homo sapien female to give birth to a Neanderthal baby. Now a Neanderthal female, might have easily given birth to a hybrid so...maybe? "We can, however, make some suggestions based on work in contemporary zones of hybridization, especially the Awash anubis-hamadryas hybrid zone. For example, we can conclude that unless an undocumented, radical genetic event occurred in the 600 ka since they shared mtDNA ancestry with the Neandertals, premodern humans were certainly able to interbreed with them and produce viable, fertile, offspring, as hamadryas and anubis baboons do (Jolly 2001:198)." AHA Theres some of that prehistoric-anthropological conjecture we have become accustomed to from our distinguished Ms.Krimsa. Oh yeah, and your "Draco" theory. Thats a winner. Feel free to elaborate. The floor is yours. Thats not my theory. The Draco/alien origin theory belongs to somebody else on here. And I wasnt criticizing your theories Krimsa. I know. Im just kidding. Yes its conjecture but not my conjecture. There are two schools of thought on this. Either the Neanderthals did not interbreed or they did. Clearly they were capable. Well not clearly but probably.  Only organisms of the same species can produce offspring. If they did interbreed, then Neanderthals were the same species as us.
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"We can, however, make some suggestions based on work in contemporary zones of hybridization, especially the Awash anubis-hamadryas hybrid zone. For example, we can conclude that unless an undocumented, radical genetic event occurred in the 600 ka since they shared mtDNA ancestry with the Neandertals, premodern humans were certainly able to interbreed with them and produce viable, fertile, offspring, as hamadryas and anubis baboons do (Jolly 2001:198)."
If you scroll up a bit there is also a couple articles on the initial sequencing that has been completed on the Neanderthal DNA. The mitochondrial DNA findings show that it was divergent. Close but not the same. They were not homo sapien. Kind of puts a damper on creationism.
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Wed 10/15/08 06:06 PM
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OHHH Look at this Krimsa!!!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/10/081015144123.htm Good stuffa |
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Edited by
SharpShooter10
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OHHH Look at this Krimsa!!! http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/10/081015144123.htm Good stuffa A fossil of an ant with a 120 million year old family tree and you know what? still looks like an ant http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080915174538.htm good stuff
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