Topic: Conservatives turn on McCain-Palin
t22learner's photo
Wed 09/17/08 05:16 PM

not all democrats are libtards, just as not all republicans are retardicans.

For the record, I don't like your joking with "retard" your punchline. Can't you do better?

Winx's photo
Wed 09/17/08 07:51 PM




That is the truth. If he becomes President, he has put our country in harms way by selecting her.






what


huh

That's what I was asking you!


Well, it's so dang obvious.

wouldee's photo
Wed 09/17/08 07:52 PM


not all democrats are libtards, just as not all republicans are retardicans.

For the record, I don't like your joking with "retard" your punchline. Can't you do better?



yup.:wink:


but it's my material, brainiac.laugh



flowers

t22learner's photo
Thu 09/18/08 06:26 PM
Edited by t22learner on Thu 09/18/08 06:28 PM
"I have been a longtime admirer of John McCain. I published a positive book about him, “Citizen McCain.”

McCain’s recent conduct of his campaign – his willingness to lie repeatedly (including in his acceptance speech) and to play Russian roulette with the vice-presidency, in order to fulfill his long-held ambition – has reinforced my earlier, and growing, sense that John McCain is not a principled man. In fact, it’s not clear who he is."

Elizabeth Drew is author of “Citizen McCain”

t22learner's photo
Sat 09/20/08 12:51 PM
"In a crisis, voters want steady, calm leadership, not easy, misleading answers that will do nothing to help. Mr. McCain is sounding like a candidate searching for a political foil rather than a genuine solution."

Wall Street Journal Editorial Board, Friday, September 19, 2008

Winx's photo
Sat 09/20/08 02:01 PM
Edited by Winx on Sat 09/20/08 02:01 PM
Flip flop McCain.grumble



wouldee's photo
Sat 09/20/08 05:44 PM
Edited by wouldee on Sat 09/20/08 05:45 PM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/general_election_match_up_history


check it out.

obama has had a decisive lead since June.

tapered to plus one before Palin announced.

McCain led since and until todays results


Obama is now plus one again.



McCain is resonating with someone.



he is a come from behind candidate, it appears.

but the country knows that.

doesn't paint so devastatingly for McCain, does it?


oh well........


never give up hope.

bigsmile


AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 09/20/08 06:08 PM
History has proven that it ain't never a good thing to count McCain down.

He works the same as the turtle.

You take a coffee break and when its done he's way ahead of you.

Steady leadership...

nuff said.

wouldee's photo
Sat 09/20/08 06:09 PM
yup.


bigsmile

t22learner's photo
Sat 09/20/08 06:14 PM

Steady leadership...

I don't know, man. He was all for privatizing Social Security a couple years ago when Dubya went for it. Now he says he was against it.

That's not very steady.

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 09/20/08 06:17 PM


Steady leadership...

I don't know, man. He was all for privatizing Social Security a couple years ago when Dubya went for it. Now he says he was against it.

That's not very steady.


Show me...

Drop us something that shows this to be a fact.

Shadow words can't change reality.

I have seen the actual pages of ledgers that show payouts from Fmae... Nuff said.


120557's photo
Sat 09/20/08 06:21 PM


yea and we are still not sure if she was pregnant or it was her daughterssad

Grow up and get real for once.

t22learner's photo
Sat 09/20/08 06:27 PM
"Without privatization, I don't see how you can possibly, over time, make sure that young Americans are able to receive Social Security benefits." John McCain, December 2004

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 09/20/08 06:34 PM

"Without privatization, I don't see how you can possibly, over time, make sure that young Americans are able to receive Social Security benefits." John McCain, December 2004


You know what...

This is true, it is in your best interest to have a private company running Social Security. They would be in it for a profit and would make it work for that reason.

do the math.

So many are not working... is it because they can't find a job... BALDERDASH... Some perhaps but there are so many jobs out there I am inclined to believe it is cause they WON't find a job. with out people working the SS system can not support the growing number of freeloaders on the system.

O'course this statement is not going to be well accepted by most cause it sure ain't politically correct... but it is accurate. I been there.

Jobs are not hard to find.

wouldee's photo
Sat 09/20/08 06:52 PM
Edited by wouldee on Sat 09/20/08 06:53 PM
the unemplyment rise in this nation is predominantly the craftsmen and tradesmen that built the houses that the libtars gave to people that could not qualify to rent an apartment.

At least the rent is typically required not to exceed a third of ones' income each month.

fiscally responsible isn't it?


remember who the unemployed are when whining about unemployment. It certainly isn't anyone else's industry that has taken the hit, except for autoworkers, and they were affected too because flippers had no equity to borrow for their toys anymore, and the foreign cars are made here and competing with us and sending the profits overseas, like they care about Americans.

wake up America.



think slaphead

t22learner's photo
Sat 09/20/08 06:54 PM


"Without privatization, I don't see how you can possibly, over time, make sure that young Americans are able to receive Social Security benefits." John McCain, December 2004

This is true, it is in your best interest to have a private company running Social Security. They would be in it for a profit and would make it work for that reason.

After the events of this week, I find this an incredible statement. The "smartest guys in the room" have been over leveraging paper and taking billions home in bonuses. Now we're stuck with a trillion dollar bill. I don't want to see them steal our SS.

Winx's photo
Sat 09/20/08 06:57 PM
Edited by Winx on Sat 09/20/08 07:03 PM
To: Adventure

You haven't seen the layoffs in my city then. And all over.
Chrysler here just laid off a couple thousand. Construction companies don't have enough work and are cutting back hours. And more.

Unemployment is the highest its been in years.

It's just starting too. Even with the government buy-outs going on, there will be more lay-offs. Banks will be closing.
Plants will be consolidating.

It's going to get worse before it gets better. With all of this money being lost, somebody has to pay for it.

You are most fortunate to have a job now. Too many others do not. And it's only going to get worse.

Don't quit your job before you've found a new one.:wink:




AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 09/20/08 07:10 PM

You haven't seen the layoffs in my city then. And all over.
Chrysler here just laid off a couple thousand. Construction companies don't have enough work and are cutting back hours. And more.

Unemployment is the highest its been in years.

It's just starting too. Even with the government buy-outs going on, there will be more lay-offs. Banks will be closing.
Plants will be consolidating.

It's going to get worse before it gets better. With all of this money being lost, somebody has to pay for it.

You are most fortunate to have a job now. Too many others do not. And it's only going to get worse.

Don't quit your job before you've found a new one.:wink:




that would be a direct result of overtaxing business... Can't compete with a company that is only paying 15% in tax when you are paying 39% in tax.

lets put that in simple perspective. before paying my workers... 15% it costs me US $15.00 TO PRODUCE A $100.00 vehicle. 39% it cost US $39.00 to PRODUCE A $100.00 vehicle.

At 39% I must increase my price by at least $24.00 to compete before my product even hits the market. (or let a worker go)

t22learner's photo
Sat 09/20/08 07:12 PM


You haven't seen the layoffs in my city then. And all over.
Chrysler here just laid off a couple thousand. Construction companies don't have enough work and are cutting back hours. And more.

Unemployment is the highest its been in years.

It's just starting too. Even with the government buy-outs going on, there will be more lay-offs. Banks will be closing.
Plants will be consolidating.

It's going to get worse before it gets better. With all of this money being lost, somebody has to pay for it.

You are most fortunate to have a job now. Too many others do not. And it's only going to get worse.

Don't quit your job before you've found a new one.:wink:




that would be a direct result of overtaxing business... Can't compete with a company that is only paying 15% in tax when you are paying 39% in tax.

lets put that in simple perspective. before paying my workers... 15% it costs me US $15.00 TO PRODUCE A $100.00 vehicle. 39% it cost US $39.00 to PRODUCE A $100.00 vehicle.

At 39% I must increase my price by at least $24.00 to compete before my product even hits the market. (or let a worker go)

Hey, we have a "war on terror" to pay for...

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 09/20/08 07:16 PM
True...

Perhaps we should round up a few wall street fat cats, strap them up with the latest version of c4 and send them to 'Negotiate' with Al-Quieda.

two birds with one stone.