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True... Perhaps we should round up a few wall street fat cats, strap them up with the latest version of c4 and send them to 'Negotiate' with Al-Quieda. two birds with one stone. That's pretty funny. |
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You haven't seen the layoffs in my city then. And all over. Chrysler here just laid off a couple thousand. Construction companies don't have enough work and are cutting back hours. And more. Unemployment is the highest its been in years. It's just starting too. Even with the government buy-outs going on, there will be more lay-offs. Banks will be closing. Plants will be consolidating. It's going to get worse before it gets better. With all of this money being lost, somebody has to pay for it. You are most fortunate to have a job now. Too many others do not. And it's only going to get worse. Don't quit your job before you've found a new one.  that would be a direct result of overtaxing business... Can't compete with a company that is only paying 15% in tax when you are paying 39% in tax. lets put that in simple perspective. before paying my workers... 15% it costs me US $15.00 TO PRODUCE A $100.00 vehicle. 39% it cost US $39.00 to PRODUCE A $100.00 vehicle. At 39% I must increase my price by at least $24.00 to compete before my product even hits the market. (or let a worker go) Hey, we have a "war on terror" to pay for... Oops. Forgot that...approx. $75 billion a year for the war and now add the $700 billion to save the companies that would go bankrupt without the help of us taxpayers. And look who paid for the stimulus checks?! China was the main purchaser of U.S. securities which supplied the money for our stimulus checks. What countries are going to have to help bail this time? |
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Edited by
Winx
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Sat 09/20/08 07:24 PM
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You haven't seen the layoffs in my city then. And all over. Chrysler here just laid off a couple thousand. Construction companies don't have enough work and are cutting back hours. And more. Unemployment is the highest its been in years. It's just starting too. Even with the government buy-outs going on, there will be more lay-offs. Banks will be closing. Plants will be consolidating. It's going to get worse before it gets better. With all of this money being lost, somebody has to pay for it. You are most fortunate to have a job now. Too many others do not. And it's only going to get worse. Don't quit your job before you've found a new one. that would be a direct result of overtaxing business... Can't compete with a company that is only paying 15% in tax when you are paying 39% in tax. lets put that in simple perspective. before paying my workers... 15% it costs me US $15.00 TO PRODUCE A $100.00 vehicle. 39% it cost US $39.00 to PRODUCE A $100.00 vehicle. At 39% I must increase my price by at least $24.00 to compete before my product even hits the market. (or let a worker go) Percentage wise, big business doesn't pay all that much in taxes after all of their write-offs. It will hurt the little businesses. |
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"I suppose the McCain campaign's hope is that when there's a big crisis, people will go for age and experience. The question is, who in this crisis looked more presidential, calm and un-flustered? It wasn't John McCain who, as usual, substituting vehemence for coherence, said 'let's fire somebody.' And picked one of the most experienced and conservative people in the administration, Chris Cox, and for no apparent reason... It was un-presidential behavior by a presidential candidate.
John McCain showed his personality this week, and made some of us fearful." George Will, long-time conservative pundit - September 21, 2008 |
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Gotta love George Will don't you?
Well, he loves baseball...that's a strike against him...hehe I don't always agree with him but I have to say I read him regularly and respect him a good deal. I also read and admired William F. Buckley as well. Too bad he isn't around now. I'd love to hear his thoughts on this election. Both these gentlemen are old school conservatives who I felt I could always count on to deliver thoughtful opinions. The solidly conservative commentary by both men were well reasoned and absent the teeth gnashing, name calling, loud hyperbole that passes for political commentary these days. Oh well, back to the regular BS now. |
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Oh well, back to the regular BS now. Yeah, it seems BS fatigue has set in for some. I know it has for me. With the divisiveness between us, I wonder how anything gets done no matter who wins the election. |
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Just for fun I am posting some quotes by Voltaire that seemed important to share today.
Prejudices are what fools use for reason. Every man is guilty of all the good he didn’t do. No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible. The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it. It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere. Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices. |
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You fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all the people all the time.
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huh ?
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You fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all the people all the time. up, up and away! |
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"The decision to play this election, like that of 2004, as a fresh installment of the culture wars is disappointing to those who thought Mr McCain was more principled than that. By choosing Sarah Palin as his running-mate he made a cynical tryst with a party base that he has never much liked and that has never much liked him. Mr McCain’s whole candidacy rests on his assertion that these are perilous times that require a strong and experienced commander-in-chief; but he has chosen, as the person who may be a 72-year-old heartbeat away from the presidency, someone who demonstrably knows very little about international affairs or the economy."
The Economist http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12262173 |
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"The decision to play this election, like that of 2004, as a fresh installment of the culture wars is disappointing to those who thought Mr McCain was more principled than that. By choosing Sarah Palin as his running-mate he made a cynical tryst with a party base that he has never much liked and that has never much liked him. Mr McCain’s whole candidacy rests on his assertion that these are perilous times that require a strong and experienced commander-in-chief; but he has chosen, as the person who may be a 72-year-old heartbeat away from the presidency, someone who demonstrably knows very little about international affairs or the economy." The Economist http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12262173 And some people just don't understand that. 
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Edited by
wouldee
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Mon 09/22/08 10:29 PM
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naw.
she pushed against corruption with a smile and a great attitude. she is not in the loop, so to speak. she thinks on her feet. The only ones that need to see that are the ones that would recognize that for themselves. If they vote for McCain, it won't be because dysfunctional epithets hallmark their judgement, but rather because the rhetoriccal insults to their intelligence predominantly come from the left anyway. No one was born yesterday. good luck with those free lunches. Sounds like God might even be moving the liberals to actually think about cleaning up after themselves huh? Assuming nobama can get it and actually cut government spending. To hell with tax cuts. fix the mess. are you free lunchers up to doing that for... a change? 
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That is sooo delusional.
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prove it.
 
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prove it. You prove it for me with all the cliches over and over again.
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True conservatives, not the delusional fanatics, are waking up...
"Under the pressure of the financial crisis, one presidential candidate is behaving like a flustered rookie playing in a league too high. It is not Barack Obama. Channeling his inner Queen of Hearts, John McCain furiously, and apparently without even looking around at facts, said Chris Cox, chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, should be decapitated. This childish reflex provoked the Wall Street Journal to editorialize that "McCain untethered" -- disconnected from knowledge and principle -- had made a "false and deeply unfair" attack on Cox that was "unpresidential" and demonstrated that McCain "doesn't understand what's happening on Wall Street any better than Barack Obama does." It is arguable that, because of his inexperience, Obama is not ready for the presidency. It is arguable that McCain, because of his boiling moralism and bottomless reservoir of certitudes, is not suited to the presidency. Unreadiness can be corrected, although perhaps at great cost, by experience. Can a dismaying temperament be fixed?" Long-time conservative George Will, writing in the Washington Post http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/22/AR2008092202583.html |
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Edited by
wouldee
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Tue 09/23/08 08:29 AM
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neither one of them is going to fix this.
they are talking heads. the experts are mired in rhetorical nonsense by partisan hacks vying for the most ludicrous soundbytes decrying their opponent's true measure. Meanwhile, mortgage lending restrictions have been taken over by the banking industry and NOW, market trends suggesting further devaluation of real estate are precipitating the bankers need to demand a more substantial down payment for the purchase of homes. They started doing this themselves last year. They require at least 30% DOWN. OR MORE!!!! they are pugging in falls in the market so the homeowner equity position will be intact when it occurs. Sounds benevolent to me. anybody applauding that? did they make the foreclosure mess worse and skid sales further by this action? where are the free lunch mortgage brokers that packaged the free homes bereft of owner equity upon origination? How could they go out of business with such attractive offerings. People are too stupid to see a great deal? Who screwed up here? who fixed the mess without intervention? WHy did Goldman Sachs re-incorporate as a Bank and forego its historic place in the market as an investment bank? It MORE than seems that the looney left is furious because their voters lost their homes wholesale. The economically challenged among us are always labeled as voting with the looney left, aren't they? It must be a republican conspiracy to bankrupt the democrats and apparently the republican fat cats are willing to tank the global economy at any cost to remove the stench of socialism from the face of the earth once and for all. what else could it be? The clintons always are quick to point pout that their failed policy directives and free lunch programs are defeated by these right wing conspirators. Vote for nobama for change. bring down those fat cat bankers and their terrorist agenda. I'd offer KOOL AID for you all to drink but the KOOL AID drinkers reminded me of it's racist tendency to depict libtards as KOOL AID drinkers. But, on the other hand, if you are not racist, then it must be OK to drink KOOL AID!!!!!! just sayin'............. 
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"I suppose the McCain campaign's hope is that when there's a big crisis, people will go for age and experience. The question is, who in this crisis looked more presidential, calm and un-flustered? It wasn't John McCain who, as usual, substituting vehemence for coherence, said 'let's fire somebody.' And picked one of the most experienced and conservative people in the administration, Chris Cox, and for no apparent reason... It was un-presidential behavior by a presidential candidate. John McCain showed his personality this week, and made some of us fearful." George Will, long-time conservative pundit - September 21, 2008 You know what... McCain was right... Lets fire somebody. Lets fire the current congress and anybody that has profited by this free-for-all of greed. Lets fire the people that ignored our interests in there mad dash for power and privilege. Lets fire them based on how much damage they have done to us and not on which party they belong to. Lets demand that they put those executives in prison that have made BILLIONS off of stealing our houses and conning us into buying stuff on low credit rates only to raise those rates six months later. In the days of Black Beard they hung pirates... Perhaps we should build a gallows on wall street. |
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