Thanks for you honset answer but it was never my intentions to use this site to meet anyone. I quit trying that years ago as I quickly discovered these dating sites was only for the super good looking and the wealthy.

I just wanted to pose a question about dating sites and view other peoples experinces. However it seemed everyone want to jump on the band wagon of harrassing the OP. I gues that's the popular thing these days ignore the questions and concerns and attack the poster.

I really don't believe one can actually see ones personality in text as it omits so many of the finer details that come in face to face conversation. What might be seen as serious in text might actually in truth be lighthearted fun in the reality. The addition of icons doesn't bridge the gap.

I found it quiet funny to read somene post who doesn't know me speak about how I lack people skills. Evidently they are not away that i often have to speak before large crowds, negotiate details amoung oppsing sides and handle large events as an event coordinator... If I lacked people skills and had anger management problems I could hardly be called upon to do such stressful task.

Really, I'm not the least bit concerned if I ever get any messages or even a date on this site. I'd rather be alone than some push over rag doll. If you allow yourself to be disrespected how is any woman ever going to have respect for you.

I have yet to be " disrespected " by anyone ( male or female ) on this site.

It was NEVER my intensions to attack the poster, I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

and even though i don't think i've ever even seen a photo of this poster, they are still one of the most attractive people on this site

based solely on the posts that i've read

so, as i was saying, and you kept disputing, it isn't really all based on the physical is it?

I haven't messaged anyone on this thread let alone this site. But I'll bet you won't see anyone defending that as the truth. It's far to much fun to attack the poster, right girls?

So, I believe that's stetching the reality of it a bit sense not a one of you can say what and how any private message would be writen... There is not a single example...

As for the physcial I really don't have an issue with that. It's an absolute in life that we will not find everyone attractive. No big deal!!!

dam what happened here

In the short time I've been here I've seen men and women from all walks of life establishing connections. The deal here, it seems to me, is you're bitter that the super models are not falling all over you. From your posts here, I can't imagine you giving them any reason to. You've insulted almost everyone in the thread. Your profile leaves nothing to motivate anyone to email you or respond to your emails. And if the content of your emails is anything like your posts, then I don't hold much hope for you at all.

All the peopl that are on this thread, ansawer me this. How long have you been on this datting site and how many of you actually went out on a date with in the last 6 months????? I wonder how many will be honest


It's easy to tell somone what they are doing or should do, but in reality do you take your own advice? and actually apply it to your own life? Were hear to have a good time and down the line make friends. Anything we say should only be a suggesten and if your not doing the foot work yourself. Why suggest anything at all. It's just funny how so many can so call tell it how it is, but don't live there life in the so call real world as they portray it to be on here.

Just look in my profile.

If that guy is correct, and all women base things on looks, you'll decide that I am not attractive after all...lol

Now that's truely too funny... I wouldn't dream of even thinking of hitting on one thise kind of gals. In fact I always purposely steered way below level. The ladies generally have better minds, stronger hearts, and a truer sense of values than those super hotties...

a little passive/aggressive? i'm not buying into the your being attacked.

you were given other options as to why women might not be replying to any of your email.

you didn't accept any of those as being valid reasons as you already were adament that you knew why women weren't responding.

i find that when people can't, or aren't willing, to accept the truth, that they tend to strike out and resort to calling people names and being accusatory.
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as far as whether dating sites work or not, i've always found that if i go into things with no expectations, i'm usually pleasantly surprised with the outcome. this is no exception.

I haven't been on a " date " in over 15 years. That isn't because of this site. lol

Im new to this site but i did meet my girlfriend of a year and a half on a similar one. There are other people posting here that i know to have had a lot of success as well. So many of us are in a very good position to be offering advice.

I asked this because people are putting it out like it's so easy to find somone and it don't matter if your looking or not. it's not. 8 time out of 10 even if you go on them 8 dates. only two are going to be worth the date. Why is that?

Well in all honsety don't you believe I've already asked those questions a hundred times myself. I was looking for something a bit more insightful an angle I've never considered before?

I figured the only way to draw such knowledge was to dive deeper than the common excuses always hashed up as we've witneesed here.

The only reason I brought up apperance is ultimately whether we like to think about it or not it has a major bearing on such things. I sadly must admit that I've actually seen women put their finger in their mouth while in my presense to signify to me they found me gross. That coming from someone who has never actually spoken to me their entire opinion was based upon looks alone. I wish I could say that was a one time instance but rather in reality the commonality. So what must be so in real life will also be conveyed and even be magnified on Dating sites...

There is nothing wrong in offering. As to how many are actually with somone compare to how many are on this site, Thats very few. Why is that?

going to state my opinion.I don't base everything on looks.I like a good smile,a sense of humor.Can i flow good with the person meaning is the conversation going well.I tend to notice people that are in the forums but thats just me

I know there is nothing wrong with offering, he did ask for a start!

I dont know the ratio of success stories to members(and neither do you), but i do know of a lot of people that have met their life partners on such sites, or have had great dates, or great romances. From the selection of people that i know personally, id say the chances of somebody finding AT LEAST some kind of success is actually higher than your pessimistic outlook seems to be.

My experience is that women, especially attractive, smart women, are more attracted by the manner in which a man holds himself and not so much by his looks. A confident, witty guy has a better chance than a weak, attractive guy any day.

i also met my boyfriend on the same site as dan, a couple of years ago.

it's not even that i think because i was successful, that i'm able to offer advice. however, i can say that i was not actively looking for a loving, lasting relationship, yet here i am smack dab in the middle of one.

i was not looking for perfection yet, somehow, i found it. yes, i may be one of the lucky ones, but it wasn't for any sort of special skill i had. i'm certain some of it was based on how i looked - i'm sure he wouldn't date someone whom he found ugly. but i doubt that the way i looked was enough all by itself for me to grab the attention of the most handsome, intelligent, interesting, sexy man that i've ever known. i'm sure it was based just as much on mutual respect, commonality, and rapport as it was on a physical attraction.