Topic: Obama Denver Speech
Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:18 PM






I do have a bit of a busy life

Not too busy to be posting here.


You see... this is why no one convinces me. I told you i read his website. No one here can actually defend the man. I am trying to critically think here, but no one seems to want to.


Drivinmenutz....there is no defending the man...I forced myself to listen to him....and I became even more disgusted with his deceitfulness....manipulations....THAT IS WHAT the people here cannot comprehend...THEY WERE MANIPULATED.....all caught up in the moment...but that is EXACTLY what is was tonight...a mere moment....empty and manipulative....nothing else...

LINDYY
:heart:


Honestly Lindy, i am thinking you are right. After hearing his earlier speachings and reading things from his website i have discovered a man who is a talented public speaker. Unfortunately i haven't really seen anything of substance from the man's speaches. I think people looked at what happened under the Bush administration, and now blame everything on republicans. Natually many people would be leaning democrat, and when you combine that with Obama's public speaking ability, you have a lot of die-hards that want so badly to hear his beautiful words. They don't always think that maybe a democrat can be corrupt too...


Obama said in his speech tonight that it is not the responsibility of Government to do everything for you, but they can inspire you to do good things for America.

It reminded me of the JFK speech.


I do like that, and i agree that it's very much like JFK's speech. I just trying to see if his plans follow suit with his supposed philosophies.

t22learner's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:19 PM





I do have a bit of a busy life

Not too busy to be posting here.


You see... this is why no one convinces me. I told you i read his website. No one here can actually defend the man. I am trying to critically think here, but no one seems to want to.


Drivinmenutz....there is no defending the man...I forced myself to listen to him....and I became even more disgusted with his deceitfulness....manipulations....THAT IS WHAT the people here cannot comprehend...THEY WERE MANIPULATED.....all caught up in the moment...but that is EXACTLY what is was tonight...a mere moment....empty and manipulative....nothing else...

LINDYY
:heart:


Honestly Lindy, i am thinking you are right. After hearing his earlier speachings and reading things from his website i have discovered a man who is a talented public speaker. Unfortunately i haven't really seen anything of substance from the man's speaches. I think people looked at what happened under the Bush administration, and now blame everything on republicans. Natually many people would be leaning democrat, and when you combine that with Obama's public speaking ability, you have a lot of die-hards that want so badly to hear his beautiful words. They don't always think that maybe a democrat can be corrupt too...

After reading your speachings, I can see how you agree with Lindy and will vote for four more years of republicanism.

BobbyJ's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:19 PM






I do have a bit of a busy life

Not too busy to be posting here.


You see... this is why no one convinces me. I told you i read his website. No one here can actually defend the man. I am trying to critically think here, but no one seems to want to.


Drivinmenutz....there is no defending the man...I forced myself to listen to him....and I became even more disgusted with his deceitfulness....manipulations....THAT IS WHAT the people here cannot comprehend...THEY WERE MANIPULATED.....all caught up in the moment...but that is EXACTLY what is was tonight...a mere moment....empty and manipulative....nothing else...

LINDYY
:heart:


Honestly Lindy, i am thinking you are right. After hearing his earlier speachings and reading things from his website i have discovered a man who is a talented public speaker. Unfortunately i haven't really seen anything of substance from the man's speaches. I think people looked at what happened under the Bush administration, and now blame everything on republicans. Natually many people would be leaning democrat, and when you combine that with Obama's public speaking ability, you have a lot of die-hards that want so badly to hear his beautiful words. They don't always think that maybe a democrat can be corrupt too...


Obama said in his speech tonight that it is not the responsibility of Government to do everything for you, but they can inspire you to do good things for America.

It reminded me of the JFK speech.


And what did JFK do other than make impressive speeches? Nearly get us into a nuclear war! What do you think he was in Texas for, but to try and hold the state because he was in danger of losing his next election.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:22 PM






I do have a bit of a busy life

Not too busy to be posting here.


You see... this is why no one convinces me. I told you i read his website. No one here can actually defend the man. I am trying to critically think here, but no one seems to want to.


Drivinmenutz....there is no defending the man...I forced myself to listen to him....and I became even more disgusted with his deceitfulness....manipulations....THAT IS WHAT the people here cannot comprehend...THEY WERE MANIPULATED.....all caught up in the moment...but that is EXACTLY what is was tonight...a mere moment....empty and manipulative....nothing else...

LINDYY
:heart:


Honestly Lindy, i am thinking you are right. After hearing his earlier speachings and reading things from his website i have discovered a man who is a talented public speaker. Unfortunately i haven't really seen anything of substance from the man's speaches. I think people looked at what happened under the Bush administration, and now blame everything on republicans. Natually many people would be leaning democrat, and when you combine that with Obama's public speaking ability, you have a lot of die-hards that want so badly to hear his beautiful words. They don't always think that maybe a democrat can be corrupt too...

After reading your speachings, I can see how you agree with Lindy and will vote for four more years of republicanism.


Did i somehow strike a nerve or something? At what point did i attack you? Just because i question a man you follow doesn't mean i need to be criticized. Furthermore i believe i posted earlier that i am more interested in a third party. Preferably one of liberitarian beliefs. I don't see republican or democrat. I try to look at the ideas.

Lindyy's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:22 PM

Drivinmenutz....there is no defending the man...I forced myself to listen to him....and I became even more disgusted with his deceitfulness....manipulations....THAT IS WHAT the people here cannot comprehend...THEY WERE MANIPULATED.....all caught up in the moment...but that is EXACTLY what is was tonight...a mere moment....empty and manipulative....nothing else...

LINDYY
:heart:


Honestly Lindy, i am thinking you are right. After hearing his earlier speachings and reading things from his website i have discovered a man who is a talented public speaker. Unfortunately i haven't really seen anything of substance from the man's speaches. I think people looked at what happened under the Bush administration, and now blame everything on republicans. Natually many people would be leaning democrat, and when you combine that with Obama's public speaking ability, you have a lot of die-hards that want so badly to hear his beautiful words. They don't always think that maybe a democrat can be corrupt too...


Obama said in his speech tonight that it is not the responsibility of Government to do everything for you, but they can inspire you to do good things for America.

It reminded me of the JFK speech.


WHO or WHAT can inspire you???? Wanting to do good for America should come from your HEART:heart: :heart: NOT from some emotional speech... I want to see action, sincerity...truth...obama has not accomplished one thing in his political career....NAME ONE THING THAT THE MAN HAS ACCOMPLISHED...You CANNOT...as he has accomplished nothing........

Lindyy
:heart:

t22learner's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:25 PM
I always seek to understand when people agree with Lindyy.

no photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:26 PM







I do have a bit of a busy life

Not too busy to be posting here.


You see... this is why no one convinces me. I told you i read his website. No one here can actually defend the man. I am trying to critically think here, but no one seems to want to.


Drivinmenutz....there is no defending the man...I forced myself to listen to him....and I became even more disgusted with his deceitfulness....manipulations....THAT IS WHAT the people here cannot comprehend...THEY WERE MANIPULATED.....all caught up in the moment...but that is EXACTLY what is was tonight...a mere moment....empty and manipulative....nothing else...

LINDYY
:heart:


Honestly Lindy, i am thinking you are right. After hearing his earlier speachings and reading things from his website i have discovered a man who is a talented public speaker. Unfortunately i haven't really seen anything of substance from the man's speaches. I think people looked at what happened under the Bush administration, and now blame everything on republicans. Natually many people would be leaning democrat, and when you combine that with Obama's public speaking ability, you have a lot of die-hards that want so badly to hear his beautiful words. They don't always think that maybe a democrat can be corrupt too...


Obama said in his speech tonight that it is not the responsibility of Government to do everything for you, but they can inspire you to do good things for America.

It reminded me of the JFK speech.


And what did JFK do other than make impressive speeches? Nearly get us into a nuclear war! What do you think he was in Texas for, but to try and hold the state because he was in danger of losing his next election.

JFK INSPIRED people to do great thing. He inspired this country to put a man on the moon in 10 years and it was accomplished! This was a real boost for American morale. You say he almost got in a nuclear war. He stood firm against the Soviet Union on their deployment of nuclear missles in Cuba, the USSR blinked and we won that stand off. They removed the missles.

Lindyy's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:26 PM


After reading your speachings, I can see how you agree with Lindy and will vote for four more years of republicanism.


OH, my, a little bit testy tonight are we? All because a woman will stand up to you??? All because a man agrees with me???

Goodness, t22learner....what happened to your fairmindedness?

Your post does lean towards 'attacking.' NOT nice...


Lindyy
:heart:

Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:28 PM

I always seek to understand when people agree with Lindyy.


This is good. In the quest for understanding we may all grow wiser. However, i was not talking down on Obama. I did mention earlier that i didn't like McCain. I am questing to understand what so many people see in Obama, other than his public speaking ability. As i said before i WANT to like him.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:31 PM








I do have a bit of a busy life

Not too busy to be posting here.


You see... this is why no one convinces me. I told you i read his website. No one here can actually defend the man. I am trying to critically think here, but no one seems to want to.


Drivinmenutz....there is no defending the man...I forced myself to listen to him....and I became even more disgusted with his deceitfulness....manipulations....THAT IS WHAT the people here cannot comprehend...THEY WERE MANIPULATED.....all caught up in the moment...but that is EXACTLY what is was tonight...a mere moment....empty and manipulative....nothing else...

LINDYY
:heart:


Honestly Lindy, i am thinking you are right. After hearing his earlier speachings and reading things from his website i have discovered a man who is a talented public speaker. Unfortunately i haven't really seen anything of substance from the man's speaches. I think people looked at what happened under the Bush administration, and now blame everything on republicans. Natually many people would be leaning democrat, and when you combine that with Obama's public speaking ability, you have a lot of die-hards that want so badly to hear his beautiful words. They don't always think that maybe a democrat can be corrupt too...


Obama said in his speech tonight that it is not the responsibility of Government to do everything for you, but they can inspire you to do good things for America.

It reminded me of the JFK speech.


And what did JFK do other than make impressive speeches? Nearly get us into a nuclear war! What do you think he was in Texas for, but to try and hold the state because he was in danger of losing his next election.

JFK INSPIRED people to do great thing. He inspired this country to put a man on the moon in 10 years and it was accomplished! This was a real boost for American morale. You say he almost got in a nuclear war. He stood firm against the Soviet Union on their deployment of nuclear missles in Cuba, the USSR blinked and we won that stand off. They removed the missles.


And perhaps America does need the boost of moral more than anything right now... I think JFK had something with the "space race". That is something people from all countries can share as a goal....

duckiegiggles's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:31 PM


its been all over the net and cnn he was not born in hawAii

t22learner's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:31 PM



After reading your speachings, I can see how you agree with Lindy and will vote for four more years of republicanism.


OH, my, a little bit testy tonight are we? All because a woman will stand up to you??? All because a man agrees with me???

Goodness, t22learner....what happened to your fairmindedness?

Your post does lean towards 'attacking.' NOT nice...


Yes, the demographic evidence here explains how Bush got elected and it's mind boggling.

no photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:32 PM


WHO or WHAT can inspire you???? Wanting to do good for America should come from your HEART:heart: :heart: NOT from some emotional speech... I want to see action, sincerity...truth...obama has not accomplished one thing in his political career....NAME ONE THING THAT THE MAN HAS ACCOMPLISHED...You CANNOT...as he has accomplished nothing........

Lindyy
:heart:


The man from Illinois, served 8 years in the Illinois legislature, served 1 year in the US Congress.

Abraham Lincoln.

Same service as Barack Obama except Obama has 2 years in the Senate.

Can you name one thing Lincoln accomplished before he was elected president?

LINCOLN was elected because he INSPIRED the American people.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:34 PM



After reading your speachings, I can see how you agree with Lindy and will vote for four more years of republicanism.


OH, my, a little bit testy tonight are we? All because a woman will stand up to you??? All because a man agrees with me???

Goodness, t22learner....what happened to your fairmindedness?

Your post does lean towards 'attacking.' NOT nice...


Lindyy
:heart:


It would be best to discard t22learners words for the time being Lindy. Right now he speaks from his (somehow injured) heart, not his brain at the moment. Appearently something we said offended him. Which, btw, i do apologize for the offense.

Lindyy's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:34 PM


I always seek to understand when people agree with Lindyy.


This is good. In the quest for understanding we may all grow wiser. However, i was not talking down on Obama. I did mention earlier that i didn't like McCain. I am questing to understand what so many people see in Obama, other than his public speaking ability. As i said before i WANT to like him.


Drivingmenutz...t22learner is being sarcastic.....guess I get under his skin...but alas, I am NOT a puppet.......I have my own mind....and I do not cave because a man makes little whimsical quips about my reasoning....

LINDYY
:heart:

Lindyy's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:37 PM




After reading your speachings, I can see how you agree with Lindy and will vote for four more years of republicanism.


OH, my, a little bit testy tonight are we? All because a woman will stand up to you??? All because a man agrees with me???

Goodness, t22learner....what happened to your fairmindedness?

Your post does lean towards 'attacking.' NOT nice...


Lindyy
:heart:


It would be best to discard t22learners words for the time being Lindy. Right now he speaks from his (somehow injured) heart, not his brain at the moment. Appearently something we said offended him. Which, btw, i do apologize for the offense.


OK, t22learner....I forgive you.......

Lindyy
:heart:

Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:37 PM



I always seek to understand when people agree with Lindyy.


This is good. In the quest for understanding we may all grow wiser. However, i was not talking down on Obama. I did mention earlier that i didn't like McCain. I am questing to understand what so many people see in Obama, other than his public speaking ability. As i said before i WANT to like him.


Drivingmenutz...t22learner is being sarcastic.....guess I get under his skin...but alas, I am NOT a puppet.......I have my own mind....and I do not cave because a man makes little whimsical quips about my reasoning....

LINDYY
:heart:


We both seem to be getting under his skin... I knew of his sarcasm btw, i was just trying to remain as nuetral, and objective as possible. I just hope he, himself hasn't fallen victim to being the "puppet" he accuses us of being.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:38 PM





After reading your speachings, I can see how you agree with Lindy and will vote for four more years of republicanism.


OH, my, a little bit testy tonight are we? All because a woman will stand up to you??? All because a man agrees with me???

Goodness, t22learner....what happened to your fairmindedness?

Your post does lean towards 'attacking.' NOT nice...


Lindyy
:heart:


It would be best to discard t22learners words for the time being Lindy. Right now he speaks from his (somehow injured) heart, not his brain at the moment. Appearently something we said offended him. Which, btw, i do apologize for the offense.


OK, t22learner....I forgive you.......

Lindyy
:heart:


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t22learner's photo
Thu 08/28/08 09:40 PM
Lindyy has no objectivity when it comes to Obama. None. She'd spout the same venom if the nominee was Clinton, Biden, Dodd, or any other person with a (D) beside their name.

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Thu 08/28/08 09:40 PM
Edited by duckiegiggles on Thu 08/28/08 09:43 PM
deluxe
can i ask you seriouslly
what is it that he is saying he will do is going to personally effect you?
like do you have health problems and hes health care solution is going to help you out or a family member over seas and he is going to bring them home?

why are you voting for him?