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Topic: THE NEWS WE DID NOT GET
tigerman1956's photo
Tue 08/26/08 04:12 AM
Checked this out on snopes.com and the judge did say all of this. Good for him.
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Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and tried to light it?

Did you know his trial is over?
Did you know he was sentenced?
Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV or Radio?


Didn't think so.!!!


Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.

Ruling by Judge William Young, US District Court.

Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had anythin g to say. His response: After admitting his guilt to the court for the record, Reid also admitted his 'allegiance to Osama bin Laden, to Islam, and to the religion of Allah,' defiantly stating, 'I think I will not apologize for my actions,' and told the court 'I am at war with your country.'

Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below:

January 30, 2003, United States vs. Reid.

Judge Young: 'Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon you.

On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in the custody of the United States Attorney General. On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutively. (That's 80 years.)

On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years again, to be served consecutively to the 80 years just imposed. The Cour t imposes upon you for each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 that's an aggregate fine of $2 million. The Court accepts the government's recommendation with respect to restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines.

The Court imposes upon you an $800 special assessment. The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply because the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life sentences so I need go no further.

This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes. It is a fair and just sentence. It is a righteous sentence.

Now, let me explain this to you. We are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid. We are Americans. We have been through the fire before. There is too much war talk here and I say that to everyone with the utmost respect. Here in this court, we deal with individuals as individuals and care for individuals as individuals. As human beings, we reach out for justice.

You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that reference, to call you a soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether the officers of government do it or your attorney does it, or if you think you are a soldier.....You are not----- you are a terrorist. And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not meet with terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice.

So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I've known warriors. You are a terrorist. A species of criminal that is guilty of multiple attempted murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it right when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the pre ss and the TV crews were, and he said: 'You're no big deal.'

You are no big deal.

What your able counsel and what the equally able United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific. What was it that led you here to this courtroom today?

I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing? And, I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you, but as I search this entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I know.

It seems to me you hate the one thing that to us is most precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individua l freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose. Here, in this society, the very wind carries freedom. It carries it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom. So that everyone can see, truly see, that justice is administered fairly, individually, and discretely. It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your behalf, have filed appeals, will go on in their representation of you before other judges.

We Americans are all about freedom. Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties. Make no mistake, though. It is yet true that we will bear any burden, pay any price, to preserve our freedoms. Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not going to long remember what you or I say here. The day after tomorrow, it will be forgott en, but this, however, will long endure.

Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across America, the American people will gather to see that justice, individual justice, justice, not war, individual justice is in fact being done. The very President of the United States through his officers will have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters can be judged and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice.

See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of America. That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands for freedom. And it always will.

Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him down.

So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV sets? We need more judges like Judge Young, but that's another subject. Pass this around. Everyone should and needs to hear what this fine judge had to say. Powerful words that strike home. God bless America


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Tue 08/26/08 04:31 AM
may god continue to bless this great state and the brave men and women that protect it.smile2

BaLLooNNoT's photo
Tue 08/26/08 04:36 AM
Wow, that's pretty cool.

tigerman1956's photo
Tue 08/26/08 04:37 AM

may god continue to bless this great state and the brave men and women that protect it.smile2



AMENbigsmile

Lindyy's photo
Tue 08/26/08 04:45 AM
What a great judge!!! Love him!! Now, who says our justice system does not work?

Of course we would not hear this on the mainstrem newsmeadia.....they are left wingers who pamper the radical left ideals......


LINDYY
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Zapchaser's photo
Tue 08/26/08 04:56 AM
Edited by Zapchaser on Tue 08/26/08 04:58 AM
Ahhhh, a breath of fresh air among the stench of those who would support such lunatics as Bubba's new cell tramp- formerly known as Richard Reid. drinker

no photo
Tue 08/26/08 05:14 AM
:thumbsup: This is excellent...thank youbigsmile bigsmile flowerforyou May God continue to protect us and keep our troops safe

madisonman's photo
Tue 08/26/08 05:24 AM

What a great judge!!! Love him!! Now, who says our justice system does not work?

Of course we would not hear this on the mainstrem newsmeadia.....they are left wingers who pamper the radical left ideals......


LINDYY
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The Truth
The story is true.
Also, the eRumor closes with a comment that suggests that the judge's remarks were not covered by the media.
The story and quotes by the judge were reported extensively.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/j/judge.htm

madisonman's photo
Tue 08/26/08 05:24 AM

What a great judge!!! Love him!! Now, who says our justice system does not work?

Of course we would not hear this on the mainstrem newsmeadia.....they are left wingers who pamper the radical left ideals......


LINDYY
:heart: :heart:
The Truth
The story is true.
Also, the eRumor closes with a comment that suggests that the judge's remarks were not covered by the media.
The story and quotes by the judge were reported extensively.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/j/judge.htm

madisonman's photo
Tue 08/26/08 05:24 AM

What a great judge!!! Love him!! Now, who says our justice system does not work?

Of course we would not hear this on the mainstrem newsmeadia.....they are left wingers who pamper the radical left ideals......


LINDYY
:heart: :heart:
The Truth
The story is true.
Also, the eRumor closes with a comment that suggests that the judge's remarks were not covered by the media.
The story and quotes by the judge were reported extensively.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/j/judge.htm

RoamingOrator's photo
Tue 08/26/08 05:35 AM
It's nice to see that this judge did his job and explained our justice system. Not to mention used his job and locked this moron away for 3+ lifetimes.

It is a shame the media didn't cover this more. Even just the sentence, because it shows that we will find justice, and we don't (necessarily) have to go to war to do it. Of course the whole not go to war thing is kind of contrary to our current policy, but nevertheless...

tigerman1956's photo
Tue 08/26/08 06:21 AM


What a great judge!!! Love him!! Now, who says our justice system does not work?

Of course we would not hear this on the mainstrem newsmeadia.....they are left wingers who pamper the radical left ideals......


LINDYY
:heart: :heart:
The Truth
The story is true.
Also, the eRumor closes with a comment that suggests that the judge's remarks were not covered by the media.
The story and quotes by the judge were reported extensively.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/j/judge.htm



true, but this story never ran on the tv news.

tigerman1956's photo
Tue 08/26/08 06:26 AM

It's nice to see that this judge did his job and explained our justice system. Not to mention used his job and locked this moron away for 3+ lifetimes.

It is a shame the media didn't cover this more. Even just the sentence, because it shows that we will find justice, and we don't (necessarily) have to go to war to do it. Of course the whole not go to war thing is kind of contrary to our current policy, but nevertheless...



it's amazing what tv news covers & don't cover. we can see & hear the tapes of hulk hogan's son, whimpering in jail ( which by the way his sentence was not justice at all ), but things like what this judge did, they do not show or even comment on.

no photo
Tue 08/26/08 06:57 AM

What a great judge!!! Love him!! Now, who says our justice system does not work?

Of course we would not hear this on the mainstrem newsmeadia.....they are left wingers who pamper the radical left ideals......


LINDYY
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so how come it never made it to FAUX News?? you think them boys over in the patriot-propaganda room would have loved to get that on the air waves...!!!laugh

Lynann's photo
Tue 08/26/08 08:44 AM
Well gee, it's not surprising that some people didn't see this story.

Newsertainment is what most tv news is. You know it, it's for those people who are to lazy to read, don't want to invest the time to inform themselves but who want to pretend to be informed.


madisonman's photo
Tue 08/26/08 09:23 AM


What a great judge!!! Love him!! Now, who says our justice system does not work?

Of course we would not hear this on the mainstrem newsmeadia.....they are left wingers who pamper the radical left ideals......


LINDYY
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so how come it never made it to FAUX News?? you think them boys over in the patriot-propaganda room would have loved to get that on the air waves...!!!laugh
realy this should have been 3 days with of 24/7 news for them, maybe it was just a little to over the top for even fox news?

Kevrides's photo
Tue 08/26/08 01:33 PM
What was too over the top? The sentence? Would you have preffered that the Judges released the terrorist into your care? Bet he'd a killed you if he had the chance. That's the way they think you know. They want to kill conservatives AND liberals and moderates and anyone else who does not agree with their brand of religion.

Dragoness's photo
Tue 08/26/08 01:56 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Tue 08/26/08 01:57 PM



What a great judge!!! Love him!! Now, who says our justice system does not work?

Of course we would not hear this on the mainstrem newsmeadia.....they are left wingers who pamper the radical left ideals......


LINDYY
:heart: :heart:
The Truth
The story is true.
Also, the eRumor closes with a comment that suggests that the judge's remarks were not covered by the media.
The story and quotes by the judge were reported extensively.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/j/judge.htm



true, but this story never ran on the tv news.


How many sentences are broadcast on the news? None pretty much, so how was this going to get on the news?

I am glad justice prevailed but people need to remember that terrorism is a form of combat. We utilize terroristic combat techniques ourselves so do not prejucially think that the word terrorist is outside of the realm of American either. If you think terrorism is a crime then you need to address our military also.

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Tue 08/26/08 02:42 PM
It just goes to show that the system does work maybe not all the time. At least in this case it did. bigsmile Kuddos to the Judge!!bigsmile

madisonman's photo
Tue 08/26/08 05:14 PM
Well from what I have read about the dude he was more an idiot than a terrorist and he was a flying solo with no real links to a terror cell, just another nut like the Unibomber so all the flag waveing ra ra sorta makes me a nausciouse, the speach the judge gave should have been saved for Bin laden not some drooling idiot who couln t even light the fuze on his "shoe" bomb.

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