thanks for getting my gender right, last time you called me "sir"....

oH YES SYMBEMYNE is all girl

5 years later he would have gotten his WMD back from his neighbors and started using them. Maybe he'd have nuke bombs now with all the yellow cake we found there tons & tons of it.

The Iraqi people would still be living under a ruthless dictator. There would be just as much if not more terrorist training taking place in Iraq. Saddam would have continued to thumb his nose at all of the UN resolutions he was in violation of and his people would have suffered even more under the sanctions that would have been imposed.

We didnt wait for the Soviet Union to go away...We WON the cold war thanks to the leadership of Ronald Reagan.

Libz R dum

Another thread for the pro Saddam loyalist and still no mention of Saddam's ten years of UN violations in which he embarrished the whole world. Folks, his regime was beyond BRUTAL. Did you like his sons too? Their was no outcry over his hanging or his sons death. That speaks volumes.

Not as dumb as the bushies and rightwingers. The yellow cake found was not the right grade to be used for bombs. Get the information straight and that may help you. The UN resolutions are only valid if Bush thinks they are because he violates them himself whenever he gets ready. Get it straight.

What kind of "outcry" did we allow them by that time??? We had already bombed the hell out of them, killed them in the streets, kicked in their doors, etc.... So what kind of outcry did you expect?

The outcries for those who have suffered at our hands is muffled by our own military and press but it is there to see if you look at the unbiased news.

the only outcry I hear from Iraq is for US troops to leave, there is an equal outcry from a majority of US citizens for the same yet we stay and borrow more money from china to fund haliburton, that speaks volumes to me

You left wing extemists are so totally delusional. It's entertainment for me at this point to even read your posts as none of them are based in reality.

From the Associated Press
July 6, 2008


MONTREAL -- The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program -- a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium -- reached this Canadian port Saturday, completing a secret U.S. operation that included an airlift from Baghdad and a voyage across two oceans.

The removal of about 550 tons of "yellowcake" -- the seed material for high-grade nuclear enrichment -- was a significant step toward closing the books on Hussein's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried that the cache would fall into the hands of insurgents or Shiites hoping to advance Iran's alleged nuclear ambitions.

Yellowcake alone is not considered potent enough for a "dirty bomb" -- a conventional explosive used to disperse radioactive material -- but it could cause widespread panic if incorporated in a blast. Yellowcake also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, weapons.


Now that you have the facts do you really think that 5 years later Saddam wouldn't have been doing his damndest to enrich that stuff for use in bombs? If not you are plain old silly.

LMAO

LIberals are not going to buy that, these liberal dip****s would defend hitler on here... They are so incapable of learning the truth, especially if it is something that goes against the Crap they preach...

NEWSFLASH NEWSFLASH NEWSFLASH NEWSFLASH NEWSFLASH


Saddam is dead.
hitler is dead.
JFK is dead.


ELVIS IS DEAD!!!!!


NEWSFLASH NEWSFLASH NEWSFLASH NEWSFLASH NEWSFLASH

money. its all about money. what makes money???? war. makes. money.

You will certainly never know. Pointless waste of time.

entertainment industry makes money

sex sells.

drugs make lotsa money.


people would rather spend money for these things than to fight a war because people are SELFISH.

Yellow cake is not considered even a WMD or have the full capability of one. So still an impotent argument.

More information about this yellow cake:

U.S. Secretly Takes Yellowcake From Iraq
A Huge Stockpile Of Natural Uranium Arrives In Canada After Secret U.S. Operation
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NEW YORK, July 5, 2008

(AP) The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program - a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.

The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" - the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment - was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions.

What is now left is the final and complicated push to clean up the remaining radioactive debris at the former Tuwaitha nuclear complex about 12 miles (19 kilometers) south of Baghdad - using teams that include Iraqi experts recently trained in the Chernobyl fallout zone in Ukraine.

"Everyone is very happy to have this safely out of Iraq," said a senior U.S. official who outlined the nearly three-month operation to The Associated Press. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject.

While yellowcake alone is not considered potent enough for a so-called "dirty bomb" - a conventional explosive that disperses radioactive material - it could stir widespread panic if incorporated in a blast. Yellowcake also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, nuclear weapons using sophisticated equipment.

The Iraqi government sold the yellowcake to a Canadian uranium producer, Cameco Corp., in a transaction the official described as worth "tens of millions of dollars." A Cameco spokesman, Lyle Krahn, declined to discuss the price, but said the yellowcake will be processed at facilities in Ontario for use in energy-producing reactors.

"We are pleased ... that we have taken (the yellowcake) from a volatile region into a stable area to produce clean electricity," he said.

The deal culminated more than a year of intense diplomatic and military initiatives - kept hushed in fear of ambushes or attacks once the convoys were under way: first carrying 3,500 barrels by road to Baghdad, then on 37 military flights to the Indian Ocean atoll of Diego Garcia and finally aboard a U.S.-flagged ship for a 8,500-mile trip to Montreal.

And, in a symbolic way, the mission linked the current attempts to stabilize Iraq with some of the high-profile claims about Saddam's weapons capabilities in the buildup to the 2003 invasion.

Accusations that Saddam had tried to purchase more yellowcake from the African nation of Niger - and an article by a former U.S. ambassador refuting the claims - led to a wide-ranging probe into Washington leaks that reached high into the Bush administration.

Tuwaitha and an adjacent research facility were well known for decades as the centerpiece of Saddam's nuclear efforts.

Israeli warplanes bombed a reactor project at the site in 1981. Later, U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said.

U.S. and Iraqi forces have guarded the 23,000-acre (9,300-hectare) site - surrounded by huge sand berms - following a wave of looting after Saddam's fall that included villagers toting away yellowcake storage barrels for use as drinking water cisterns.

Yellowcake is obtained by using various solutions to leach out uranium from raw ore and can have a corn meal-like color and consistency. It poses no severe risk if stored and sealed properly. But exposure carries well-documented health concerns associated with heavy metals such as damage to internal organs, experts say.

"The big problem comes with any inhalation of any of the yellowcake dust," said Doug Brugge, a professor of public health issues at the Tufts University School of Medicine.

Moving the yellowcake faced numerous hurdles.

Diplomats and military leaders first weighed the idea of shipping the yellowcake overland to Kuwait's port on the Persian Gulf. Such a route, however, would pass through Iraq's Shiite heartland and within easy range of extremist factions, including some that Washington claims are aided by Iran. The ship also would need to clear the narrow Strait of Hormuz at the mouth of the Gulf, where U.S. and Iranian ships often come in close contact.

Kuwaiti authorities, too, were reluctant to open their borders to the shipment despite top-level lobbying from Washington.

An alternative plan took shape: shipping out the yellowcake on cargo planes.

But the yellowcake still needed a final destination. Iraqi government officials sought buyers on the commercial market, where uranium prices spiked at about $120 per pound last year. It's currently selling for about half that. The Cameco deal was reached earlier this year, the official said.

At that point, U.S.-led crews began removing the yellowcake from the Saddam-era containers - some leaking or weakened by corrosion - and reloading the material into about 3,500 secure barrels.

In April, truck convoys started moving the yellowcake from Tuwaitha to Baghdad's international airport, the official said. Then, for two weeks in May, it was ferried in 37 flights to Diego Garcia, a speck of British territory in the Indian Ocean where the U.S. military maintains a base.

On June 3, an American ship left the island for Montreal, said the official, who declined to give further details about the operation.

The yellowcake wasn't the only dangerous item removed from Tuwaitha.

Earlier this year, the military withdrew four devices for controlled radiation exposure from the former nuclear complex. The lead-enclosed irradiation units, used to decontaminate food and other items, contain elements of high radioactivity that could potentially be used in a weapon, according to the official. Their Ottawa-based manufacturer, MDS Nordion, took them back for free, the official said.

The yellowcake was the last major stockpile from Saddam's nuclear efforts, but years of final cleanup is ahead for Tuwaitha and other smaller sites.

The U.N.'s International Atomic Energy Agency plans to offer technical expertise.

Last month, a team of Iraqi nuclear experts completed training in the Ukrainian ghost town of Pripyat, which once housed the Chernobyl workers before the deadly meltdown in 1986, said an IAEA official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the decontamination plan has not yet been publicly announced.

But the job ahead is enormous, complicated by digging out radioactive "hot zones" entombed in concrete during Saddam's rule, said the IAEA official. Last year, an IAEA safety expert, Dennis Reisenweaver, predicted the cleanup could take "many years."

The yellowcake issue also is one of the many troubling footnotes of the war for Washington.

A CIA officer, Valerie Plame, claimed her identity was leaked to journalists to retaliate against her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, who wrote that he had found no evidence to support assertions that Iraq tried to buy additional yellowcake from Niger.

A federal investigation led to the conviction of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President **** Cheney's chief of staff, on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice.



Considering the yellow cake is older than 1991, the process needed to utilize it for a WMD did not exist in Iraq and the UN monitored Iraq regularly, there was no threat from this "yellow cake".

You will have to try harder to prove what the president could not prove and that is the validity of the strike against Iraq.

I don't consider myself liberal so I don't know what to tell you, you will have to find a more valid insult I guess.

The curtains we place in view to cover realistic events are the things you encounter every day. Do you encounter war?

The only things you "know" are the things they want you to know. The people who publish or direct the news can twist and spin all they want. Really...... be open for discussion. If you argue you are close minded and will not grow.

I agree. And do not stick your head up the butt of someone in power so they can do whatever they want with you and use you to further their power.

Its too late for alot of people.... the government has a head butt train miles long.