Topic: church in 4 the $$$$$$$$$$$$
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Wed 09/12/12 08:10 PM
So a bank account equates to loving money?

Ok I'll contemplate that.

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Thu 09/13/12 04:24 AM
a bank account is coveting money or the intent to covet money

and as MsHarmony pointed out "coveting money is loving money"

and as we all know loving money is the root of all evil

so..er..."HikerJohn" ....do you have a bank account?


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Thu 09/13/12 04:53 AM
Yes I have several bank accounts I use in my daily life as a tool to function. A way to distribute the funds the good Lord allows me to handle. A holding place. This is in place of a coin bag. Actually he calls me to handle the funds he gives me with great care and wisdom and not to a fool with his resources and talents.

I wish I new more about were you are in your faith and growth. Sometimes we zoom in on a micro subject and struggle to see the full picture and this can distort our view. We have all done it. Can I suggest you maybe doing this.

We should all be reading proverbs over and over as we are called to seek wisdom and proverbs spells out a foundation for wisdom and warns us what happens when we remain foolish.

We all should be seeking the kingdom first. Because His love and approval is the full picture. Seeking the father is when the spirit dwells in us.

I am just stating that it appears you are a God loving person. I am far from a point of arriving at perfection but if you want a study friend, just email me. We are called to not lean on our own understanding but to seek answers in many ways including fellowship of other believers.


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Thu 09/13/12 06:15 AM
so the lord called you and gave you permission to get several bank accounts and covet money to aid and abet Banks to accumulate Gold ...

I guess when it comes to obtaining Gold...the Lord finds a way

also the equivalent of a coin purse would be a wallet not a Bank

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Thu 09/13/12 07:15 AM
Communication between Christians is to
Be for growth and correction not for just arguing. Do your own study on gold banks investments coveting and how man choses to use gold and money for either good or evil. I see no desire to learn in your posts. This is my last reply my friend. I'll pray the Lord brings you pease in this area.

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Thu 09/13/12 07:15 AM
Edited by Hikerjohn on Thu 09/13/12 07:27 AM
Dp

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Thu 09/13/12 08:40 AM

Communication between Christians is to
Be for growth and correction not for just arguing.


"Hikerjohn" my only aim is to place you on the path to true righteousness.....you as a Christian seem to have strayed away from the flock ..you are making excuses why you have a bank account when you know that it's coveting money


Do your own study on gold banks investments coveting and how man choses to use gold and money for either good or evil.


the accumlation of Gold and money is greed an false idol worshipping it's biblical and no way around this...if you give your money to the Banks for their quest in the accumulation of Gold, you are promoting the root of all evil...the love for money


I see no desire to learn in your posts.


the same thing the Pharisees would say to Jesus


This is my last reply my friend. I'll pray the Lord brings you pease in this area.


the lord commanded you to learn and spread the word, not to drop the responsibility into his lap and run away when the going gets tough...imagine if Jesus did the same ..now do you understand why I stated that you strayed from the flock

perhaps you need to pray to the Holy Spirit to strengthen your Faith because we need all the help we can use to teach the Heathens

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Thu 09/13/12 11:16 AM
coveting refers to what does not belong to you

I dont 'covet' what I already have earned,,,

ita another senseless, circular, distraction to the thread,,,

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Thu 09/13/12 02:01 PM

coveting refers to what does not belong to you

I dont 'covet' what I already have earned,,,

ita another senseless, circular, distraction to the thread,,,


MsHarmony....coveting refers to desire...

also didn't the banks also earn the Gold that your covet bank account help them to accumulate?

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Thu 09/13/12 09:37 PM
Edited by Hikerjohn on Thu 09/13/12 09:37 PM
Ok so you have established that your here to teach and not learn. Why don't you break down the parable of the talents for us?

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Fri 09/14/12 05:39 AM
Funches

We are all on this journey together my friend. And along the way as the holy spirit 'sanctifies' our lives here on earth, let's be sensitive to each others growth in knowledge and wisdom and growing faith.

Me and the holy spirit are doing just fine in our communication. And I am assured that there is great value that is gained when we don't lean on our own understanding but lean on others and uplift, support, build up each other. We also are called to be correctable and to correct for the purpose of growth.

We all fall short. And at some point in a Christian growth, if we are desiring growth, we get past ourselves and the desire to be right diminishes and the desire to know what's right increases. The fact is we are all wrong. At least in part. Growth happens when we desire to find out what we have wrong by seeking what is right.

My point? It's really hard to impossible to share and grow with a person who is still working on getting past themselves. But I will tell you, when you get there, that's when the real jurney begins. What a wonderful fulfilling and peaceful jurney that becomes.


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Fri 09/14/12 06:14 AM

Ok so you have established that your here to teach and not learn. Why don't you break down the parable of the talents for us?


sure HikerJohn...no problem

"the parables of talents" is Jesus using the accumulation of wealth as an analogy to the rewards of Heaven, which sort of press the point of the thread as to why the church is about the money






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Fri 09/14/12 06:21 AM
Edited by funches on Fri 09/14/12 06:22 AM

Funches

My point? It's really hard to impossible to share and grow with a person who is still working on getting past themselves. But I will tell you, when you get there, that's when the real jurney begins. What a wonderful fulfilling and peaceful jurney that becomes.


sure Dr.Phil...whatever

can you hurry up and get over your conniption fits so we can get back to teaching the Heathens

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Fri 09/14/12 08:00 AM


Funches

My point? It's really hard to impossible to share and grow with a person who is still working on getting past themselves. But I will tell you, when you get there, that's when the real jurney begins. What a wonderful fulfilling and peaceful jurney that becomes.


sure Dr.Phil...whatever

can you hurry up and get over your conniption fits so we can get back to teaching the Heathens


Well clearly you feel you have arrived and your understanding is complete to the point of saving all those heathen. And all this time I thought I was but an instrument usable by God for his purposes.

Is that why you and I post here is to save the heathen that read our posts? I am here to make friends and fellowship with others. To grow and learn. And I have through that fellowship. I have been sharpened by others who care to bless me with there life and walk. I'll leave the salvation of the heathens to my father. But those who ask why I live in pease, I am happy to share what I have learned and experienced.

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Fri 09/14/12 09:02 AM

Well clearly you feel you have arrived and your understanding is complete to the point of saving all those heathen. And all this time I thought I was but an instrument usable by God for his purposes.

Is that why you and I post here is to save the heathen that read our posts? I am here to make friends and fellowship with others. To grow and learn. And I have through that fellowship. I have been sharpened by others who care to bless me with there life and walk. I'll leave the salvation of the heathens to my father. But those who ask why I live in pease, I am happy to share what I have learned and experienced.


Jesus commanded his followers to spread the gospel, and as you should have learn in Sunday School as you were placing your ten percent into the money plate, that those that are not of the Faith are considered to be Heathens...

so are you giving testimony that your purpose here is to disobey the command of your Lord and not spread the gospel

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Fri 09/14/12 09:14 AM
Nope. Keep re reading it. And when it still doesn't make sense, take it to your pastor or your accountsbility group of fellow believers. If you don't have that, then your ignoring other commandments. Your own understanding does not show wisdom. That's my opinion. Not scripture.


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Fri 09/14/12 10:12 AM
HikerJohn..since your answer was "Nope"..then that is an admission that your true purpose here is to do as Jesus commanded you to do and spread the gospel to the Heathens ...

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Fri 09/14/12 10:16 AM

That's my opinion. Not scripture.
:thumbsup:


opinions are like farts, everyone's stink but yours

which is why you should stick to scripture

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Fri 09/14/12 11:36 AM


That's my opinion. Not scripture.
:thumbsup:


opinions are like farts, everyone's stink but yours

which is why you should stick to scripture


Thank you. It's good advice. God bless my friend.

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Fri 09/14/12 03:24 PM

Thank you. It's good advice. God bless my friend.


maybe he might bless me with some of that Gold he paved the streets of Heaven with and I can use it to end hunger on the planet and buy a couple of beers...