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 I don't believe that there is any place that is Hell. I believe in reincarnation as opposed to one life and then you go to heaven or hell. Ruth, I also entertain the belief in reincarnation. I’m not proclaiming that’s it and no other post mortem experience (or lack of) is possible. However, reincarnation has a plausible premise behind it. We just shovel those souls in and back out them come, reborn, as man or beast perhaps? I'm like you in that I don't claim to be 100% sure of what happens after death. But, it seems to me to be the most likely scenario. Although I seriously doubt that human souls can be reincarnated into animals or other living matter (i.e. trees) but I don't know for sure. Yeah. I don’t know if there is a transience and if so, where or what. Does human go back into human or what not? I can tell you my mother is a retired labor and delivery nurse of 25 years. So she’s seen a few babies born! Anyway, there is something that her and the fellow nurses refer to as a "ghost baby". Sounds like a load of crap already right? Well maybe. What these babies do is upon delivery, they display NOTHING. No movement, no recognition. Once their eyes are cleared of mucous, they stare strait ahead, they don’t cry. They sit. Motionless. Looking like tired sacks of potatoes. No crys. Everything else is healthy. All vital signs at predictable levels. So what the hell? Perhaps a new soul is entering at that point or shortly after. Are we seeing it? Is the infant remembering at that time and realizing it’s beginning once again? We don’t know. Maybe it is tired. Maybe it is sad. Maybe it does not want to start over. Anyway, it’s just a story told by the nurses. |
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No, it doesn't sound like a load of crap at all. Thanks for sharing that......I had never heard that and it's very interesting.
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Mon 08/18/08 09:17 PM
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I forgot to mention these babies come around, generally they set them on heating pads and treat them for shock. It could be that some newborns are more effected by the birth process than others. So lets not rule out normal occurance. It is a WEIRD phenomena though and rare.
Anyway, Im sorry, this is 
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I forgot to mention these babies come around, generally they set them on heating pads and treat them for shock. It could be that some newborns are more effected by the birth process than others. So lets not rule out normal occurance. It is a WEIRD phenomena though and rare. Anyway, Im sorry, this is Very interesting tho, thank you for sharing. 
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hell is being married and some of the above u all describe. I will drink to that. I didn't even know that you had met my ex. Yup. I wouldn't say she was the devil though because I had met her mother. 1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 
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where do you think those 17 year locusts go to for 17 years. They only come up to give u a taste of eternity. In hell they will drive u CRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZYYYYYYYYYY
   
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what happens after death, is that the body stays on earth. the breath or the spirit leaves when the heart stops pumping, and the lungs quit breathing.
and then, u must dispose of the body. it either gets burned where it turns to ashes, or it goes in the ground where the flesh leaves, and all that remain are the bones. whether the spirit goes to heaven or hell, depends on the walk with god. |
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Well that’s certainly one theory on what might potentially happen after death. I actually have no idea what goes on. I don’t accept the premise behind heaven or hell however.
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well, what i described is from my own experience dealing with death.
then, i forgot one thing. sometimes they put the body on ice freezing it until the autopsy. about heaven or hell, well tell me where all the spirits r going then. maybe they are still on earth walking around. or come back as dogs. i don't know that one. the bible says you go one way or the other depending on your walk with god. well, a minister told me that. and if it is not right, take it up with him.
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Yahweh Breathed and Adam became a living being. The breath of Yahweh. Throughout time that breath is needed to live. If it came from Yahweh how can it not go back to him?
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In order to control the masses you must know or create something they are afraid of. Hell is this manipulation in this religion.
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Tue 08/19/08 11:50 AM
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well, what i described is from my own experience dealing with death. then, i forgot one thing. sometimes they put the body on ice freezing it until the autopsy. about heaven or hell, well tell me where all the spirits r going then. maybe they are still on earth walking around. or come back as dogs. i don't know that one. the bible says you go one way or the other depending on your walk with god. well, a minister told me that. and if it is not right, take it up with him. No need to become defensive. I merely commented that your theory on what happens post mortem is one possibility. I’m sure many would actually accept that as the absolute truth. However, as you yourself stated, there is no way to know for certain until we die. So these are all nothing more than theories, guesses, and speculation. I myself lend a great deal of credibility to reincarnation. You ask where do I think all of the spirits are going? I think it’s quite possible that we die and then our souls are simply recycled and we begin again. Now is it only human to human transference or animal to animal or are they capable of crossing in some respect? That I don’t know. No one does. Ministers just as well. |
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I believe that I currently work there.................<insert deep thought>...................<insert hmmmm>......................<insert more deep thinking>..................
Yes, I can definitely state that my place of employment is absolutely hell to the tenth degree!
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krimsa;;;i was not being defensive...just matter of fact, u c, i don't know 4 sure, and will not know until that day that i myself cross over the great bridge.
i have been in hell on this earth, and am hoping that my eternal life is a little easier. well it was made that way by my x husband. |
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krimsa;;;i was not being defensive...just matter of fact, u c, i don't know 4 sure, and will not know until that day that i myself cross over the great bridge. i have been in hell on this earth, and am hoping that my eternal life is a little easier. well it was made that way by my x husband. I understand. People very often can become defensive when they feel their ultimate truth is being questioned in some respect. I think I thought that was what you were trying to assert but excuse me if that was a mistake on my part. These are all just theories and yes, we have no way of knowing until we make that journey on our own. |
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well that is a little more clear about my theories.
u c, i have had some experience with dead people, and i know one thing, they live on in our memories, and so far, my dead people have not come back. they may be lurking around where i don't c them, but so far they have not spoken. and the dog has not been back either. 
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What do you think hell is? I believe it is actually describing the grave, I have a friend who is a Masonic Jew (Meaning he is Judaism religion, Jewish Heritage, and a Mason) he claims that Jewish people do not believe in the same idea of hell as Christians. The Jewish/Judaism refer to hell as being the place where you are buried( a Grave). He claims Christians (Catholics) started using hell to describe a place of fire and brim stone where God keeps the punished for all of time. He also claims this is a scare tactic created because the catholic church did not have many members, so by doing this they were able to scary people into becoming members and tithing to the Church. What do you think? Also Masonic Jews do believe Jesus Christ has come, but do not like to be referred as Christian because they claim. They believe Christians interpretation of the bible as a document is incorrect in the fact that Jesus did not come here to start a religion, but rather to die for mans sins and teach men compassion. Also not all Masons are Jewish. Some are Christian, some are Muslim, and some are Jewish, but they all are united through Masonry because they all believe in one God and that no man can judge another mans religion and tell them it is wrong as long as the believe of a single god exist, similar to tolerance. I'm a mason, and I can tell you to be one, you are required to believe in the Judaic/Christian god, I seriously doubt there are muslim Masons, at least not in this country. |
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well that is a little more clear about my theories. u c, i have had some experience with dead people, and i know one thing, they live on in our memories, and so far, my dead people have not come back. they may be lurking around where i don't c them, but so far they have not spoken. and the dog has not been back either. Well of course they live in our memories. I would hope so anyway? How would you know if any person that you have had contact with throughout your lifetime that has passed would have come back in another form, be that human or animal? If a soul could pass from death to rebirth in ANY part of the globe, you may not be present, nor would you necessarily have any connection with that new embodiment. That is my point. A minister does not have the answers, you do not have the answer, nor does anyone. What we can establish to our own satisfaction are theories based on our own research, life experience or whatever else we choose to help us formulate these ideas.
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If you ever sufferend you would know what hell is. Believe me when I tell you there are things worse than death.
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