Please man have a little control on you posting. For example limit your
conspiracy theories to ones that are actually linked to real news
stories not enquire stories, there is a difference

Problem #1; WE can't ban anybody. That's up to VC & Mike. If you want
to report him, go ahead, but....

Problem #2: He hasn't violated any of the rules, so what's your
justification for banning?

Methinks I hear an agenda here....

AAAAhhhh just ignore him.

Sorry guys I am joking, just messing with Shadoweagle, I not really
serious, we still have our freedom of speech, don't we.

mistershamrock that's is what i been trying to tell people. These forums
are for us to voice our thoughts and opinions. Do we believe in them
some may say yes and some may say No. But, regardless we as a people
have the power and conviction to let our voice be heard. Freedom of
speech and freedom of opinions. I am not here to backlash anyone . I am
just here merely to have fun. Whether my post are objective because of
topic and you wish to comment on that's your right as well. Freedom of
Speech is one of our greatest Constitutional right and we can't hate for
someones thoughts or belief or we become the things we hate most and
that's a Bigot......

no

no

Mistershamrock,

To the simple question:
Do you believe in freedom and liberty?

I'm very confident that you would answer with and heartfelt and
determined
'.. OF COURSE!!! and might even add,
'... WHAT DO YOU THINK, I'M A REAL AMERICAN!!!'.

The cornertone of our freedom and our liberty, as I am sure you know and
stand for, is freedom of speech.

It doesn't say freedom of YOUR speech,
or freedom of the MAJORITY speech,
or freedom of speech for everyone you or I might agree with, or freedom
of speech for all Republicans and limited freedom for Democrats.
Nor does it say that the speech has to make sense to you,
It does imply in any shape or form that there must be agreement around a
particular speech, or around the individual that exercises the RIGHT of
speech.


And while you, or I, or anyone else might have a personnal
interpretation of the meaning of Freedom of Speech, that personnal
interpretation is NOT what Freedom of Speech is founded upon!!!

It is the legacy of the forefathers, some of them whom have paid with
their lives to promote, defend, and install this right at a time where
they risked being burned at the stake.

Free Speech is founded upon exact words, written on real documents that
are a part of our Constitutions (Western World in general) and Laws.

In the US, among other collaborators, John Stuart, authored and
promoteed right through to constitutional amendment, his theorem throgh
the 'Harm principle of free speech'.

What this principle implies in a nutshell, is that you cannot use speech
to definitively silence someone else, or everyone else, and therefore,
in no circumstances, should someone be kept from expressing his or her
views, unless it is to 'harm' or definitively silence others. It goes
exactly like this:

"... If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person
were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in
silencing that one person than he, if he had the power, would be
justified in silencing mankind."

You see Mistershamrock, 'thems' are the facts.

The MANY, however many they may be, aggreeing together, CANNOT SILENCE
THE RIGHT OF SPEECH OF THE ONE, WITH WHOM THEY MAY NOT AGREE.

Freedom of speech, along with our other liberties, is always a two face
coin. Your right of speech is only EQUAL TO the right of speech of
others. No more, No less.

If you really believe in freedom and libery, as I'm confident you do,
stop fighting unilaterally for YOUR PERSONNAL OPINIONS.

Have your convictions, and defend them in OPEN DEBATES, but moreover,
FIGHT AND DEFEND FIRST AND FOREMOST, FOR THE RIGHT OF PEOLE of DIFFERENT
OPINIONS, TO SPEAK THEIR OWN.

Here's how that translates, if you're a good solid Repubican, get out
of the Republican rethoric of Demaocrat Bashing, and silencing. Stop
fleeing when you can't convince and win your point. THINK, ACCEPT,
REGROUP, AND SPEAK BACK.

DEFEND THE RIGHT OF DIFFERENCE OF OPINION (Muslims, foreigners,
Democrats, etc.).

Debate, EXCHANGE points of view, AND ENRICH AND ALTER, OR KEEP YOUR
POINT OF VIEW, AS YOU WISH!!!

Free speech, with no intent to harm, can never be interpreted as a
threat. 'OPEN MINDEDNESS' to difference of opinion, will never BREAK OUR
SKULLS. However much we might disagree!!!

Those defending the theory that opposing views, and those whom carry
them, should be changed or 'dealt with' at all cost, are the real
threat to our freedoms!!!

If you REALLY don't agree with 'ShadowEagle' postings, you still owe to
yourself, as a good US citizen, defending freedom FIRST, to
celebraqte SHADOWEAGLE'S RIGHT to express his views, and YOUR RIGHT TO
MOVE ON TO OTHER POSTS if you have no counter argument to contribute.

Silencing, or censorshipping is downright FASCIST!!!
Not us! Not here! never!!!

And that, whith all due respect to everyone, is only what I say.

Mr. V, rah rah for you.

Lighten up people.

Misters, you've only posted 12 replies, you have no right to make an
entire forum about banning a user. Reallyy now, just confront the poor
guy or mike!

Hummmm seems you just said what you wanted to mister guess shadoweagle
has the same rights also enough said

Bush Senior Met With Bin Laden's Brother on 9/11

Paul Joseph Watson

Comment: Despite studying September 11 for two years solid, one fact I
only just discovered is that George W. Bush's father was meeting with
Osama bin Laden's brother, Shafig bin Laden, in the Ritz-Carlton Hotel,
Washington, on the morning of 9/11. They were on Carlyle Group business
just a few miles from where hijackers supposedly acting on behalf of
Osama bin Laden would fly a plane into the Pentagon.

Recall that the chief financier of the so-called hijackers, Pakistan's
Chief Spy General Mahmoud Ahmad, was meeting with Bush administration
officials the week before 9/11. He also met with Bob Graham and Porter
Goss on the morning of the attacks, who would later go on to head the
first 9/11 investigative committee.

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/new_revelations_on_911

no he should have right to say what he wants. called freedom of speech.
no matter how crazy it sounds.

No, none of you Bush bootlickers have explained the problems of 911.

and the lies of 911 are starting to come out.

32 sec video of Bush http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5I7NFracPU


42 sec video of the "boogie man"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41UAnkQARFs

90 sec FOX NEWS video; no plane hit the Pentagon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSZG3a8F-YM&mode=related&search=

60 sec CNN NEWS video; no plane hit the Pentagon
http://thewebfairy.com/911/pentagon/


unanswered questions that people here do not like to think about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMWn-bQYfSc



What did Hitler say about telling lies?

On "Current News & Events" I think you should be alowed to say what you
feel. As long as you don't give death threats or get to abusive. You
don't know the exact truth about events no more then the next guy. If
someone wants to put up something then they should be allowed. This
isn't a communist country or Canada,is it?

Who in the hell is Shadowedge?

interesting

Noam Chomsky:

If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those
we despise we do
not believe in it at all.

lol

just had to

Who is John Galt?

Had to do that...

yeah yeah yeah, freedom of speach, ah **** aint that overrated now days,
i mean with all the political correctness going on in the world and here
in the states particularly i think pretty soon there will be a list of
about 200 words we will be able to say, can you say thanks lib fans?

get real!

beer and whiskey i thinks youve had enough to drink tonite.


doc

airborne!!