Topic: Nice doesn't mean nice
lilith401's photo
Wed 08/13/08 09:50 AM
Poem or song?

Mrtap's photo
Wed 08/13/08 09:51 AM
Edited by Mrtap on Wed 08/13/08 09:54 AM

Poem or song?


Poem:wink:


Surprise:smile:

Lily0923's photo
Wed 08/13/08 09:52 AM

When
everytime i think of you my body shakes
everytime i see you my knees grow weak and
everytime i'm with you i dont want the time to end.

When
everytime i look into your eyes, i wish i was there
everytime i see you smile my heart melts and
every night before i go to sleep i pray we dont end.

I've tried somehow to say:
you're the sun that lights up my How do I tell you how I feel about you
sky
the wind that keeps me cool on a hot summer day
and sweet incense that keeps me on a natural high

I want so much to tell you:
that without you with me each day my day isn't complete
that since day one I've always wanted to be with you
that no matter what's going on in my life
you're the reason there's a smile on my face
and that loving you seems to be all I need to know.
**But everytime I want to
the words just wont come out
to you it may sound mushy or too cute
you may not believe it so it's better I keep my mouth closed**

Then to try to tell you exactly whats on my mind
yet I wish to tell you that I'm beginning to
love you more with each passing of the day
and that I want to be with you
come whatever may.


Take thatdevil devil :angel: :angel: :heart: :heart:



do you derive joy when someone else succeeds?
do you not play dirty when engaged in competition?
do you have a big intellectual capacity but know
that it alone does not equate wisdom?
do you see everything as an illusion?
but enjoy it even though you are not of it?
are you both masculine and feminine? politically aware?
and don't believe in capital punishment?

these are 21 things that I want in a lover
not necessarily needs but qualities that I prefer

do you derive joy from diving in and seeing that
loving someone can actually feel like freedom? are you funny?
à la self-deprecating? like adventure? and have many formed opinions?

these are 21 things that I want in a lover
not necessarily needs but qualities that I prefer
I figure I can describe it since I have a choice in the matter
these are 21 things I choose to choose in a lover

I'm in no hurry I could wait forever
I'm in no rush cuz I like being solo
there are no worries and certainly no pressure in the meantime
I'll live like there's no tomorrow

are you uninhibited in bed? more than three times a week?
up for being experimental? are you athletic?
are you thriving in a job that helps your brother? are you not addicted? ...curious and communicative...
Narcissus


Mrtap's photo
Wed 08/13/08 09:56 AM


When
everytime i think of you my body shakes
everytime i see you my knees grow weak and
everytime i'm with you i dont want the time to end.

When
everytime i look into your eyes, i wish i was there
everytime i see you smile my heart melts and
every night before i go to sleep i pray we dont end.

I've tried somehow to say:
you're the sun that lights up my How do I tell you how I feel about you
sky
the wind that keeps me cool on a hot summer day
and sweet incense that keeps me on a natural high

I want so much to tell you:
that without you with me each day my day isn't complete
that since day one I've always wanted to be with you
that no matter what's going on in my life
you're the reason there's a smile on my face
and that loving you seems to be all I need to know.
**But everytime I want to
the words just wont come out
to you it may sound mushy or too cute
you may not believe it so it's better I keep my mouth closed**

Then to try to tell you exactly whats on my mind
yet I wish to tell you that I'm beginning to
love you more with each passing of the day
and that I want to be with you
come whatever may.


Take thatdevil devil :angel: :angel: :heart: :heart:



do you derive joy when someone else succeeds?
do you not play dirty when engaged in competition?
do you have a big intellectual capacity but know
that it alone does not equate wisdom?
do you see everything as an illusion?
but enjoy it even though you are not of it?
are you both masculine and feminine? politically aware?
and don't believe in capital punishment?

these are 21 things that I want in a lover
not necessarily needs but qualities that I prefer

do you derive joy from diving in and seeing that
loving someone can actually feel like freedom? are you funny?
à la self-deprecating? like adventure? and have many formed opinions?

these are 21 things that I want in a lover
not necessarily needs but qualities that I prefer
I figure I can describe it since I have a choice in the matter
these are 21 things I choose to choose in a lover

I'm in no hurry I could wait forever
I'm in no rush cuz I like being solo
there are no worries and certainly no pressure in the meantime
I'll live like there's no tomorrow

are you uninhibited in bed? more than three times a week?
up for being experimental? are you athletic?
are you thriving in a job that helps your brother? are you not addicted? ...curious and communicative...
Narcissus




very sweetieflowerforyou flowerforyou smooched smooched flowers

Mrtap's photo
Wed 08/13/08 10:00 AM
Edited by Mrtap on Wed 08/13/08 10:01 AM
There are many locks
and with such are many keys
with most keys they are returned
but with one lock where one key
and only one key can unlock it
Once that key is given away
the key can never be returned
It becomes the sole possession of the recipient forever theirs
For this is no random key but is a special key
This key is not handed to one another lightly
but rather earned over time
For several years people work to earn this key
once given this key,
the one key that will forever more unlock
not a door to a house or a car but unlock
The person's heart forever
at that point in time when they give that key
they will then for the first time understand
True Love




and take thisdevil devil :heart: :heart: :angel: :angel:















Mrtap's photo
Wed 08/13/08 10:10 AM
I will try to play nice nowhappy :angel:

Lily0923's photo
Wed 08/13/08 10:18 AM

There are many locks
and with such are many keys
with most keys they are returned
but with one lock where one key
and only one key can unlock it
Once that key is given away
the key can never be returned
It becomes the sole possession of the recipient forever theirs
For this is no random key but is a special key
This key is not handed to one another lightly
but rather earned over time
For several years people work to earn this key
once given this key,
the one key that will forever more unlock
not a door to a house or a car but unlock
The person's heart forever
at that point in time when they give that key
they will then for the first time understand
True Love




and take thisdevil devil :heart: :heart: :angel: :angel:


You don't own me, I'm not just one of your many toys
You don't own me, don't say I can't go with other boys

And don't tell me what to do
And don't tell me what to say
And please, when I go out with you
Don't put me on display, 'cause

You don't own me, don't try to change me in any way
You don't own me, don't tie me down 'cause I'd never stay

Oh, I don't tell you what to say
I don't tell you what to do
So just let me be myself
That's all I ask of you

I'm young and I love to be young
I'm free and I love to be free
To live my life the way I want
To say and do whatever I please

A-a-a-nd don't tell me what to do
Oh-h-h-h don't tell me what to say
And please, when I go out with you
Don't put me on display

I don't tell you what to say
Oh-h-h-h don't tell you what to do
So just let me be myself
That's all I ask of you

I'm young and I love to be young
I'm free and I love to be free
To live my life the way I want

TheShadow's photo
Wed 08/13/08 10:22 AM

Please guys....

Pay attention. If you say you are nice, you're not. If we say you're nice, that means a few things:

1. You have no backbone.
2. You are indecisive and wishy washy.
3. You are a whiner.
4. You are a taker, but think you're a giver.
5. We have no sexual attraction to you as a result of the above. Women are not into men they cannot respect.

Any questions??

I am so sick of this topic I want it to stop. Nice guys don't finish last. People finish exactly where they should for a variety of reasons. But don't you dare say you're nice and it's because of that you're single.

Man up.


I'm not a nice guy. But i have been told i'm sweet:wink:

no photo
Wed 08/13/08 10:23 AM
Edited by Gianni18 on Wed 08/13/08 10:58 AM


Please guys....

Pay attention. If you say you are nice, you're not. If we say you're nice, that means a few things:

1. You have no backbone.
2. You are indecisive and wishy washy.
3. You are a whiner.
4. You are a taker, but think you're a giver.
5. We have no sexual attraction to you as a result of the above. Women are not into men they cannot respect.

Any questions??

I am so sick of this topic I want it to stop. Nice guys don't finish last. People finish exactly where they should for a variety of reasons. But don't you dare say you're nice and it's because of that you're single.

Man up.


I'm not a nice guy. But i have been told i'm sweet:wink:


Sweet is different... sweet is a good thing I recon.

Mrtap's photo
Wed 08/13/08 10:23 AM
Edited by Mrtap on Wed 08/13/08 10:25 AM
What is this magical bond we share?
Amidst the constant circus like avalanche of words,
How did you know?
Once like you stable and secure,
He is older, yet betrothed to your dream,
Faithful to uncertainty,
A spirit yearning to be free.
His subtle words lodge in your thought.
Why did you pick this stranger
With a hunger that you can not see!!


and this:heart: :heart: :angel: :angel: devil devil

RoamingOrator's photo
Wed 08/13/08 01:03 PM
Okay guys, sorry for the "blow up" earlier. But it seemed we were riding a lot of descent people, and I couldn't let them be railroaded. I do apologize if I offended anyone. flowerforyou

I do notice that we have changed the tone in here to a more "constructive" set of critiques. There's some good advice in there.

Ruth, thanks for catching what I was implying, I think you're the only one who did.


Lily0923's photo
Wed 08/13/08 02:26 PM

Okay guys, sorry for the "blow up" earlier. But it seemed we were riding a lot of descent people, and I couldn't let them be railroaded. I do apologize if I offended anyone. flowerforyou

I do notice that we have changed the tone in here to a more "constructive" set of critiques. There's some good advice in there.

Ruth, thanks for catching what I was implying, I think you're the only one who did.




I saw your point, but we weren't actaully talking about actually "nice" guys, we were talking about self proclaimed "nice" guys who cry about being nice.

The same arguement can be made for "b*tches" and the men who love them... and if you're not a b*tch you can't find a man...blah blah blah...but the same thing I said about the nice guys applies to women also.

Just be who you are, and if you are finding that "no one" appreciates you, go take a good hard look in the mirror and find out why that is, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that you are chasing the wrong type of person for your personality.

Tromette's photo
Wed 08/13/08 02:44 PM
"Nice" actually DOES mean "nice." But "nice" and "wussy little *****" are two completely different things...

RoamingOrator's photo
Thu 08/14/08 01:50 PM


Okay guys, sorry for the "blow up" earlier. But it seemed we were riding a lot of descent people, and I couldn't let them be railroaded. I do apologize if I offended anyone. flowerforyou

I do notice that we have changed the tone in here to a more "constructive" set of critiques. There's some good advice in there.

Ruth, thanks for catching what I was implying, I think you're the only one who did.




I saw your point, but we weren't actaully talking about actually "nice" guys, we were talking about self proclaimed "nice" guys who cry about being nice.

The same arguement can be made for "b*tches" and the men who love them... and if you're not a b*tch you can't find a man...blah blah blah...but the same thing I said about the nice guys applies to women also.

Just be who you are, and if you are finding that "no one" appreciates you, go take a good hard look in the mirror and find out why that is, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that you are chasing the wrong type of person for your personality.


Where are those donughts? I haven't been chasing anyone!! tongue2 laugh tongue2

OpenWounds's photo
Thu 08/14/08 02:02 PM
I have been described as 'heartless' by a woman. Is that alright?


It's cuz i told her if she fell off that ladder, she'd have to clean her own brains up. I wasn't doing it. Eeew.

No1sLove's photo
Thu 08/14/08 02:09 PM
I need help...am I insulting my fella if I call him a good guy now? noway

I'm gonna have to watch my mouth, and for you fellas that I've called nice guys? I didn't mean it! Honestly! I thought it meant kindhearted, polite and gentlemanly. Really! flowerforyou

Lily0923's photo
Thu 08/14/08 02:20 PM

I need help...am I insulting my fella if I call him a good guy now? noway

I'm gonna have to watch my mouth, and for you fellas that I've called nice guys? I didn't mean it! Honestly! I thought it meant kindhearted, polite and gentlemanly. Really! flowerforyou


You can call them nice and it means nice, but if they COMPLAIN about being nice then it ceases to mean nice...

No1sLove's photo
Thu 08/14/08 02:51 PM


I need help...am I insulting my fella if I call him a good guy now? noway

I'm gonna have to watch my mouth, and for you fellas that I've called nice guys? I didn't mean it! Honestly! I thought it meant kindhearted, polite and gentlemanly. Really! flowerforyou


You can call them nice and it means nice, but if they COMPLAIN about being nice then it ceases to mean nice...
Super, I'm covered then. :wink: laugh

SVImager's photo
Fri 08/15/08 07:58 AM

I need help...am I insulting my fella if I call him a good guy now? noway

I'm gonna have to watch my mouth, and for you fellas that I've called nice guys? I didn't mean it! Honestly! I thought it meant kindhearted, polite and gentlemanly. Really! flowerforyou



Do what you always have done and try not to double guess what they think, thus further confusing the communication process.

If a guy gets the NICE word... it is like a code word meaning I do not value you sexually, but we can be Friends.

solestria's photo
Fri 08/15/08 11:49 AM
The Heartless *****es International site has a wonderful page of rants on "Nice Guys" (TM).